1. awj's Avatar
    When it gets to 17:30 each afternoon, I wonder whether I should head home from work ASAP so I can go out cycling. So I take a look at a weather app on my phone. And does it tell me what the weather's going to be like that evening? Usually not.

    What I instead get is the current temperature, current barometric pressure, wind speed and direction, and sometimes even a bunch of more detailed stuff that's meaningless to me, like humidity.

    Why does every weather app insist on telling you how the weather is right now?

    When you watch weather forecasts on TV they don't spend their prime moment (i.e. their live-tile presence) telling you what it's like outside right now, they tell you how it's going to be.

    So why do weather apps take up precious space and that glance moment by telling you what you already know, or can tell with a simple glance out of the window?

    After living with the Microsoft Weather app for the past year or so, I've found it to be woefully inaccurate, so I've been through several different weather apps over the past couple of months (I currently have 4 on my home screen) and I've yet to find satisfaction with any of them.

    Aside from the obvious desire for accuracy, here's my very simple wishlist:
    • A live tile which shows the weather over the next few hours. The wider tile should show more hours than the medium tile. And the information I want is simply temperature and whether to expect rain or sunshine.
    • The reverse of the live tile should show the forecast for the next few days. Again, the wider tile should show more days than the medium tile.


    Let's take The Weather Channel app as an example. Aside from its dated styling, it uses the wide tile to show me the current temperature and 'sky conditions' (sunny, rainy, etc.). And then the reverse shows the next 3 days' average temperature and sky conditions. This means that if it's going to rain tomorrow between 1500 and 1600, The Weather Channel app will simply show a raincloud and an average temperature for the entire day. That's not far from being useless.

    And worse, with almost all apps, once you've started the full app they show you even more detailed information about the current conditions. I don't need to know the current humidity, the wind speed, etc. I want to know what the weather is going to be doing over the next few hours and days. It's as if the developer has found a web service which delivers a plethora of information, and they feel that they must display it all.

    And showing me a radar map doesn't help either. I'm no meteorologist and seeing a lot of clouds coming my way doesn't really inform me what's going to happen.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for a weather app that meets my fairly basic criteria?

    Does anyone else share my frustrations with weather apps? It strikes me that the first weather app probably made a big deal of showing the current weather graphically on a home or lock screen, and all others have followed. Since then, every newly-built weather app has just copied this model and no-one seems to have considered what might be useful to know in a glance.
    06-05-2014 03:26 AM
  2. jleebiker's Avatar
    There was an app that did exactly what you're asking for. I had it for a while. It told you right on the live tile what it was going to be like for the next few hours. I uninstalled it for some reason, I can't remember why. I'll find it and post it.
    06-05-2014 08:38 AM
  3. primortal's Avatar
    With Amazing Weather HD | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States) there's a setting to show the weather through out the day by hour on your lock screen or in the live tile.
    06-05-2014 09:11 AM
  4. jleebiker's Avatar
    06-05-2014 11:02 AM
  5. awj's Avatar
    I currently have both Amazing Weather HD and Blue Skies pinned to my home screen. Both do as I described: they both have the current weather on one side of the tile.

    I've granted them both the widest tile that the phone offers, and yet they both waste one side of a tile to tell me the current 'forecast'. You can get a fair amount of information on a wide tile, but they squander this by showing me a graphical representation of the sun, the temperature (thanks, but I'm standing in it right now) and my current location (thanks, but I almost always know where I am).

    Yes, they both offer a flipped tile which shows the next few hours on the reverse, but like I said in my OP, what I'm looking for is the next few hours on one side, and the next few days on the other.

    Actually, Blue Skies shows the next few days, and only offers the next few hours through an in-app purchase.

    All the weather apps I've looked at can tell you the next few hours and the next few days once inside the app, so why not stick them on the tile?

    There are some apps which allow you to choose what you want on the tile, but these still insist on having the current weather on one side and your choice on the other.
    06-06-2014 06:30 AM
  6. primortal's Avatar
    Well with Amazing Weather HD you can choose by hour for wide tiles as the front tile.

    What your looking for is a little different than how others use weather apps. Reach out to some of the developers and make your case and they might incorporated into a new version of their app.
    jleebiker likes this.
    06-06-2014 07:51 AM
  7. TrickyDee42's Avatar
    Weather view shows hourly on front in 2 hour jumps, with daily forecast on the reverse.

    This may be what you are looking for.
    jleebiker likes this.
    06-06-2014 08:01 AM
  8. jleebiker's Avatar
    Weather view shows hourly on front in 2 hour jumps, with daily forecast on the reverse.

    This may be what you are looking for.
    ​Do you have a link?
    06-06-2014 11:34 AM
  9. humanhowever's Avatar
    Weather flow, the one I use does exactly what you have asked for. It's a paid for app. But it doesn't exactly what you have asked and I use it a LOT.
    06-06-2014 11:52 AM
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    06-06-2014 11:54 AM
  11. oditius's Avatar
    It's funny you mention that you are outside and don't need that info. I am stuck indoors and no windows, so I don't have the foggiest notion what it's like outside without the app telling me or going outside to find out. I mean if it is raining, I could grab the umbrella I keep in my cubicle.


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    06-06-2014 11:57 AM
  12. awj's Avatar
    @oditius - it begs the question, if you're stuck indoors then why do you need to know what the weather's doing?

    Anyway, I now have Weather View and Weather Flow installed and pinned to my home screen. Both do indeed have an hourly and daily forecast, so now I'll be considering their accuracy over the next couple of weeks.

    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Correction: Weather Flow has a somewhat strange set of tile options. If you opt for the medium tile then you can choose what you want on the back (reverse) side, though not the front. And if you opt for the wide tile then you can select from one of three "forecast" options, and the tile apparently doesn't flip at all. It seems... kind of... half-baked. So I can either have an hourly forecast or a daily forecast, but not both because the wide tile doesn't flip.

    I think I'll take @primortal's advice and speak to some of these devs. I'm surprised that I appear to be the only person looking for what I believe is a very practical option.
    Last edited by awj; 06-06-2014 at 05:58 PM.
    06-06-2014 05:44 PM
  13. oditius's Avatar
    @oditius - it begs the question, if you're stuck indoors then why do you need to know what the weather's doing?
    Because I don't live at my job, I have to go home some time.
    06-06-2014 06:27 PM

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