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  1. stephen_az's Avatar
    No doubt Windows Phone 8 was great OS.
    It offer very smooth user experience but it lacks features
    But now
    We have almost the the features we want but now OS is not offer smooth lag free experience as WP8.

    Start Screen Lag
    Xbox Music lag
    Xbox Video lag
    Xbox Games lag.
    and
    We have another new contender
    Now even our Lock Screen lag.

    We have all the official laggiest apps now.

    I think
    The problem is MS suddenly became serious about WP and launching too many beta apps one after another.
    The only good recent app which MS launched is 'FILES". Which they forgotten after launch.(Seriously no updates in 2-3 months)

    I think it's time MS should focus on quality not quantity.
    No one asked Live Lock Screen.
    but almost every WP users want that they have smooth,fast and fluid XBOX--- M,G.V.
    Sorry but this is just assuming personal experience on one device translates into everyone's experience. That then leads to presenting uninformed and unfounded speculation as fact. Of course you then throw in a classic troll title on top of things. Perhaps you might consider asking questions (polite is also appreciated) in the forum for your device. As to your assumption that your experience is everyone's, no it is not. I don't experience lag on either my 928 or 822. I am not going to assume though that no one experiences lag anywhere so I am not suggesting you are lying (your words).
    sd173, Jed Cutler, jojoe42 and 2 others like this.
    07-26-2014 02:46 PM
  2. Pradika's Avatar
    I'm very frustrated with Xbox service...
    Games appears in app list, and everytime we open games hub, too much waiting, loading, updating, loading again...
    Music and video hub is worst, better in wp8, no streaming music and video.
    colinkiama and Jakez98 like this.
    07-26-2014 03:01 PM
  3. spaulagain's Avatar
    Guess what iOS 7 lags on older iPads and iPhones. There is a reason Apple is so hell-bent on getting people to upgrade to the newest hardware - because they can't seem to make iOS run more efficiently, thus necessitating a huge new spend. Why does Apple not get hell for this?
    My 1020 has pretty good specs and lags the same way he is talking about. I don't think it has anything to do with hardware. I think there is some bug in the software that causes occasional hangs when transitioning to other apps, etc. My home screen is completely random. Sometimes its just fine, other times it has a horrible delay and all my tiles are blank for several seconds. That would suggest a software issue.
    Andrew Gordon and D M C like this.
    07-26-2014 03:04 PM
  4. Nabiscuit's Avatar
    I'm experiencing maddening lag on my 1020. Right now, the biggest culprit is the new Calendar app. I tap it, it opens, it crashes immediately. I tap it again, nothing. Again, nothing. And then finally after about 45-55 seconds after my first tap, it finally opens.

    I think what people are having really big issues with the new OS, is the phone no longer operates the way you used to use it.

    I own a business and I have everyone's work schedules automatically pop up in my calendar app. This used to be a fluid experience. After 8.1, it's been a nightmare to deal with. Very frustrating.

    I have around 75 tiles on my Start Screen. On 8.0, my 1020 was a champ. Always shows the live tiles, never had to redraw them, never had to Resume (my Start Screen resumes about twice a day now).

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that 8.0 was so fast and so fluid that you could use your phone in any way that you saw fit. You want 100 live tiles? Sure thing! Do you have over 200 appointments loaded on your calendar? WP can handle it! Do you love apps and need to download all the new ones and load up your phone? No worries. WP8 is for you.

    But with 8.1, all the polish is gone.

    It's like Microsoft never really saw how lots of users use their phones and released 8.1 for the lowest common denominator. Sure it'll sing on a quad-core processor, but if you want to abuse your phone by loading a bunch of apps, tiles, and calendar appointments, then 8.1 is going to abuse you - by making you wait an extra four seconds to do anything.

    I love the new features and everything 8.1 brings, but the experience is a lot worse on older hardware. I mean hell, if your phone is going to get 200% slower after one year of owning it and apps that used to be reliable will now die all the time for no reason.... What's the reason to use WP over IOS or Android?!?

    There is none. Especially since most of Microsoft's services can be gotten on any mobile device...

    For now, I'm sticking with my 1020 cause I need the camera... But next release cycle... I dunno. This crap better improve. I've been with WP since the very first day. I was in the Microsoft Store and got a Dell Venue Pro on day 1. Compared to my Blackberry Bold, it was a revelation. It really used to be the Fastest OS. Not anymore. :(
    07-26-2014 03:05 PM
  5. Chris Wayne2's Avatar
    Yes it's considerably less smooth, WP8 was faster to resume apps, the start screen was lag free and yes, the integrated system apps used to work flawlessly ( aka calendar, music, etc.) now we see things we weren't used to like loading screens.

    It's not the end of the world either, IDK about the user experience on slower devices (I run 8.1DP on a 920) but I can live with 8.1 on the 920 plus I don't know if Cyan would make it feel faster, I just hope that Microsoft is aware of us, the users and hopefully they can improve the experience.
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    07-26-2014 03:17 PM
  6. Jazmac's Avatar
    It didn't take long for the hate to fall on WP 8.1.
    sd173, badcat, jojoe42 and 5 others like this.
    07-26-2014 03:17 PM
  7. Cravot's Avatar
    I have cyan on the 925, i have lag. I have a 720 on dp, i have lag. I tested the 630. Lag almost disappears. I think their seems to be an optimization problem for 2 core devices. To the ones who have it try talking to wpsupport on twitter or in the chat on their website, so they are aware of the problems. This will help. I don't expect 2year old hardware to do as good as new, but when your store app responds better than your start screen you have a problem
    07-26-2014 03:26 PM
  8. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    On the Developmental Preview with an 820. Have lag on some days. Others not so much.
    07-26-2014 03:32 PM
  9. Justin Holland1's Avatar
    Mine will be the whole set of tiles. I'll have just a bunch of blank theme color tiles as scrolling and then it eventually catches up and shows the tiles actually content. I've heard it would happen with Cortana pinned to the Start Screen, but I removed her and it still does it.
    I think it is the dp because I got the 630 that comes preload with cyan and 8.1 and it is lag free so if your using dp roll it back and wait for the cyan update it will be lag free cuz my old 521 worked fine no lag until I put dp on then it laged
    Chee Hong and herbertsnow like this.
    07-26-2014 03:34 PM
  10. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Plenty of lag on my 1520 on att with official cyan update and sometimes still have that screen reload issues and as I've mentioned on this site before my camera shakes bad and all of my pics come out horrible all since 8.1 and yes I've done plenty of hard resets so yeah there's still plenty of lag and usually run a soft reset once a week !
    07-26-2014 03:38 PM
  11. Rogozinski's Avatar
    Wp 8.1 is awesome!!! The best OS ever ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Jazmac and badcat like this.
    07-26-2014 03:55 PM
  12. paulxxwall's Avatar
    It didn't take long for the hate to fall on WP 8.1.
    It's not necessarily hate but I am a bit crabbed out that my 1520 is running rough since 8.1 ! I love the features but man my 1520 used to run smooth now ......screen reload....heats up when this happens... My camera is awful and found no help or fix so maybe not hate but definitely frustrated!
    D M C likes this.
    07-26-2014 04:01 PM
  13. Jack Janik's Avatar
    I have two phones, a Lumia 920 and a Lumia 520. There's not as much lag as you're making it out to be.. But saying there's no lag at all, IN MY EXPERIENCE is an outright lie.
    FinancialP and Nabiscuit like this.
    07-26-2014 04:24 PM
  14. mccririck's Avatar
    Total of 57 tiles.
    22 of them are live tiles.
    Too many live tiles.
    07-26-2014 05:34 PM
  15. TheBadGuy_88's Avatar
    when installing 8.1 did you guys do a clean install? or did you guys install on top of? my 1520 with 8.1 dp cleanly installed, is really smooth. when the official cyan firmware comes out ill do another clean install. smooth as butter! my 920 with a cleanly installed 8.1 dp is as smooth as butter! this is with no optimized software!. when cyan comes for that i'll cleanly install it and I'm sure it'll be smooth too.

    at some point the choices we sew reap. you can't have a 2 year old BUDGET PHONE, With a crappy sd card, 512 Mb ram, loaded with 50 plus live tiles all requesting fresh data, varying SDK builds, some software designed for 8, some rushed to be in the 8.1 release window, poorly coded apps, and no space left and expect a perfect lag free experience. that's not fair and it WONT ever work on any os anywhere. smh false advertising. you guys need to learn how to use your devices. and save some money and buy better phones! complaining about 8.1 on a BumAss phone that wasn't even designed for what your doing to it!

    you sound like those trolls who are mad when windows 8 doesn't run well on their bumAss pc they bought when XP came out. well of course it wont run well it wasn't designed for it! sorry for the rant, ill sit down now.
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    07-26-2014 05:41 PM
  16. mccririck's Avatar
    How do you do a clean install?
    07-26-2014 05:42 PM
  17. Nakazul's Avatar
    Found something interesting using airplane mode and Wi-Fi only with so called people hub. Using Facebook actually went quite fast on my L1020. Any others noticing speed differences using this setup? My 4G speeds are faster then my Wi-Fi but the phone is slower on mobile data with WP 8.1.
    Otherwise WP 8.1 is slow as snails, the third party apps really needs a boost in performance now that we rely on em.
    07-26-2014 05:48 PM
  18. TheBadGuy_88's Avatar
    at some point during the installation process, it asks you whether you want to start fresh or restore a backup. you choose start fresh. those aren't the words exactly. and if you're not sure after you install the update you do a factory reset in "settings >about > where it says reset your phone
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    07-26-2014 05:50 PM
  19. herbertsnow's Avatar
    I think I might go back to 8.0 and disable updates on my 520.
    07-26-2014 06:00 PM
  20. Cravot's Avatar
    when installing 8.1 did you guys do a clean install? or did you guys install on top of? my 1520 with 8.1 dp cleanly installed, is really smooth. when the official cyan firmware comes out ill do another clean install. smooth as butter! my 920 with a cleanly installed 8.1 dp is as smooth as butter! this is with no optimized software!. when cyan comes for that i'll cleanly install it and I'm sure it'll be smooth too.

    at some point the choices we sew reap. you can't have a 2 year old BUDGET PHONE, With a crappy sd card, 512 Mb ram, loaded with 50 plus live tiles all requesting fresh data, varying SDK builds, some software designed for 8, some rushed to be in the 8.1 release window, poorly coded apps, and no space left and expect a perfect lag free experience. that's not fair and it WONT ever work on any os anywhere. smh false advertising. you guys need to learn how to use your devices. and save some money and buy better phones! complaining about 8.1 on a BumAss phone that wasn't even designed for what your doing to it!

    you sound like those trolls who are mad when windows 8 doesn't run well on their bumAss pc they bought when XP came out. well of course it wont run well it wasn't designed for it! sorry for the rant, ill sit down now.
    is the 925 and 920 cheap? Older yes, but underpowered no. I know a lot about phones, OSes and hardware. Do I care about the frame rate of an animation? Not so much, but I do care about delay in input. And the start screen is worse than the store app. What does that say. For me it is an optimization problem. And yes I hard reset everytime. If the problem doesn't happen for you. Congratulations, but some of us have and we are not dumb
    D M C likes this.
    07-26-2014 06:00 PM
  21. jojoe42's Avatar
    Reading through these posts I'm always seeing one thing - people are comparing final software (WP8) to non-final software (WP8.1), and yes the developer preview ISN'T a beta, but it'll still lack a lot of optimisation and MS also treat it as an opportunity to let users try out additional betas/works in progress such as the XBM app (which I will agree is terrible, but is slowly getting there). Developer previews/release candidates/open betas will ALWAYS contain bugs, bugs in the install, bugs in the OS and bugs in the apps. The install process will probably leave a mess, it won't be optimised which is why there is still a bit of junk lying around lagging the phone up a little when you upgrade to later software - the people who have clean installed will prove my point. Funnily enough, despite my 1020 running the dev preview, with literally every app on my phone beta (Facebook Beta, Viber RC4) I'm still finding my phone running faster (not more fluid) than my friends' GS4s, and grabbing double the battery life too...
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    07-26-2014 06:26 PM
  22. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Reading through these posts I'm always seeing one thing - people are comparing final software (WP8) to non-final software (WP8.1), and yes the developer preview ISN'T a beta, but it'll still lack a lot of optimisation and MS also treat it as an opportunity to let users try out additional betas/works in progress such as the XBM app (which I will agree is terrible, but is slowly getting there). Developer previews/release candidates/open betas will ALWAYS contain bugs, bugs in the install, bugs in the OS and bugs in the apps. The install process will probably leave a mess, it won't be optimised which is why there is still a bit of junk lying around lagging the phone up a little when you upgrade to later software - the people who have clean installed will prove my point. Funnily enough, despite my 1020 running the dev preview, with literally every app on my phone beta (Facebook Beta, Viber RC4) I'm still finding my phone running faster (not more fluid) than my friends' GS4s, and grabbing double the battery life too...
    Well honestly lucky you ..it just took my phone literally 2 min for screen to reload hard reset and all.....really sucks!
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    07-26-2014 06:38 PM
  23. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    From my own experience, it's far from all the time the software being the issue.

    P.S. Sometimes you need to look in the mirror.

    P.P.S. 22 live tiles? You serious? I barely imagine how many apps are running in background.
    07-26-2014 06:47 PM
  24. hagjohn's Avatar
    It seems to be a hit or miss issue, but my Start Screen lags like crazy on my 1020 with DP. Tiles are all blank as you scroll. I'm hoping final the Cyan update will fix it.
    I have not had that issue on my 1020 with DP. Other than Music and sometimes the camera can be slow, but overall it has been relatively smooth.
    07-26-2014 07:22 PM
  25. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    Hmm, I will not call it the laggiest OS of the year...

    Maybe the most BETAFIED (lol is there such a word) OS of the year ๐Ÿ˜‚

    And there is nothing wrong with that... BETA = UPDATES. UPDATES = PERFECTION. Let's just all be patient okay? Daddy Microsoft has been teaching us ever since the value of Patience in our lives... Remember, Patience is a Virtue! ๐Ÿ™Œ
    Chee Hong likes this.
    07-26-2014 07:36 PM
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