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  1. gagalovegood's Avatar
    Xbox music and video are so bad. I don't know why Microsoft don't bring Zune HD player features and interface to Xbox Music, It so fast, look good and easy to use.
    Last edited by gagalovegood; 07-28-2014 at 04:42 AM.
    07-28-2014 03:58 AM
  2. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    But they all are running on processors of one family. Its true that camera will improve after cyan update but performance, I doubt.
    First of all, every single SoC has its own architecture, which is different from the others (even the "same family").
    Secondly, most of devices have different set of sensors, radio modules etc etc, so the combination is different, thus different firmware.

    P.S. Oh yeah, did I forgot to mention the most obvious - the display?
    07-28-2014 04:00 AM
  3. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Xbox music and video are so bad. I don't know why Microsoft don't bring Zune HD player features and interface to Xbox Music, It so fast, look good and esy to use.
    Why don't we just go back to stone age.
    07-28-2014 04:00 AM
  4. Chris Sandiford's Avatar
    Must be isolated - my L925 on Cyan's quick as ever. I noticed the Games hub was laggy but don't use that any more and don't use any of the other Xbox stuff. That will all go soon anyway I'm sure.
    07-28-2014 04:09 AM
  5. Amulya Ronaldo's Avatar
    ur right man...this wp8.1 sucks....after cyan update my microphone has stopped working...it works sometime and sometime doesn't
    07-28-2014 04:19 AM
  6. Cravot's Avatar
    Must be isolated - my L925 on Cyan's quick as ever. I noticed the Games hub was laggy but don't use that any more and don't use any of the other Xbox stuff. That will all go soon anyway I'm sure.
    I just hope it goes away. then 8.1 is perfect for me.
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    07-28-2014 04:20 AM
  7. gagalovegood's Avatar
    Why don't we just go back to stone age.
    Although It is older than but do you see that it is better than Xbox music on Windows Phone now?! Maybe the name is still Xbox music but if the performance and the structure of it is similar to Zune HD music player is better. thanks. That's my opinion.

    P/s: The Zune HD player is the Zune look as following Pictures. Not Zune Software on computer or Zune app on Windows Phone.
    zunehd_review_06.jpg
    microsoft-zune-hd-pmp.jpg
    Last edited by gagalovegood; 07-29-2014 at 05:09 AM.
    07-28-2014 04:39 AM
  8. Vitor Salvatore Pierce's Avatar
    Zune > "Windows Phone App"
    zune.png
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    07-28-2014 05:25 AM
  9. Dimitri Brandt's Avatar
    I haven't noticed any kind of lag on my Lumia 930 so far.
    07-28-2014 05:31 AM
  10. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    HAHA, I thought specs did not matter for WP?
    Last edited by psudotechzealot; 07-28-2014 at 07:23 AM.
    07-28-2014 07:12 AM
  11. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I thought specs did not matter for WP.
    It does and it should.
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    07-28-2014 07:15 AM
  12. a5cent's Avatar
    It does and it should.
    They don't and they shouldn't... ;-)

    What does matter is actual performance and capabilities. Whether that is reflected by specs is a different question (sometimes they are, other times they are not)

    We'd be in a better smartphone world if we judged devices by measuring how well they run apps and games, or compared picture quality (here we are doing better) rather than by numbers on paper...
    07-28-2014 07:30 AM
  13. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    They don't and they shouldn't... ;-)

    What does matter is actual performance and capabilities. Whether that is reflected by specs is a different question (sometimes they are, other times they are not)

    We'd be in a better smartphone world if we judged devices by measuring how well they run apps and games, or compared picture quality (here we are doing better) rather than by numbers on paper...
    1. Performance is both HW and SW dependent.
    2. Capabilities are both HW and SW dependent.
    3. UX depends on everything (IMO this is what's the most important).
    07-28-2014 07:35 AM
  14. a5cent's Avatar
    1. Performance is HW and SW dependent.
    2. Capabilities are HW and SW dependent.
    3. UX depends on everything.
    Yes. And? Everything in computing is both hardware and software dependent. They account for almost everything. The only thing missing, which sometimes also influences the outcome, is the user.
    07-28-2014 07:38 AM
  15. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Yes. And? Everything in computing is both hardware and software dependent. They account for almost everything. The only thing missing, which sometimes also influences the outcome, is the user.
    The user factor influences only the UX.

    My point was and still is that for WP specs are relevant.
    07-28-2014 07:40 AM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    The user factor influences only the UX.
    I'd say the user has a huge impact on security. I'd also say that the photographer plays a vital role when it comes to picture quality.

    Just for starters...

    My point was and still is that for WP specs are relevant.
    Just saying it doesn't make it so however. I explained why I disagree.

    At best, specs are an indirect and abstract representation of a UX. At worst, they are downright misleading. Most of the time they exist to sell devices to low-information geeks, rather than to tell consumers something genuinely useful. Of course exceptions exist, but in general...
    07-28-2014 07:52 AM
  17. quantum tao's Avatar
    specs matter. alot.
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    07-28-2014 08:12 AM
  18. Malay Agarwal's Avatar
    ur right man...this wp8.1 sucks....after cyan update my microphone has stopped working...it works sometime and sometime doesn't
    That's a hardware problem
    Not software
    Genius
    07-28-2014 10:36 AM
  19. Vitor Salvatore Pierce's Avatar
    That's a hardware problem
    Not software
    Genius
    "After Cyan"
    07-28-2014 11:34 AM
  20. jonathan sink's Avatar
    Why don't we just go back to stone age.
    Terrible rebuttal, while I admit I don't have 3/4 the problem others do with my 1520. The Xbox music app is atrocious. So his wanting to roll back to an app that was very well done is a good argument. Which deserves a good response. I honestly don't know why they don't, there may actually be real legitimate reasons. That however doesn't excuse the terrible app that is Xbox music at the moment.
    07-28-2014 12:30 PM
  21. Nabiscuit's Avatar
    Terrible rebuttal, while I admit I don't have 3/4 the problem others do with my 1520. The Xbox music app is atrocious. So his wanting to roll back to an app that was very well done is a good argument. Which deserves a good response. I honestly don't know why they don't, there may actually be real legitimate reasons. That however doesn't excuse the terrible app that is Xbox music at the moment.
    .

    You came to the wrong place for those. ;)
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    07-28-2014 01:26 PM
  22. TheBadGuy_88's Avatar
    Ok,
    Are you seriously complaining about 512MB RAM. (Can you tell me how much RAM L630 and L530 have? and When WP become specs hungry OS?
    no! you people are! just know my hd2 from 2009 came with 512 Mb of ram! this is 2014! I don't expect anything that couldn't run on my hd2 to be able to run in this post snapdragon era.
    07-28-2014 02:58 PM
  23. Cravot's Avatar
    Doesn't the amount of ram seem to be more an issue for the resuming problem than the lag problem? I think the problem for lag has more to do with the gpu and CPU, because when everything is loaded in ram in the resuming part, the ram wouldn't be a bottleneck in the startscreen right?
    07-28-2014 03:31 PM
  24. Tepid's Avatar
    The only, ONLY, read that ONLY lag I have on my phone is with the Live Lock Screen Beta
    And ONLY under certain situations.
    Such as, I have my phone set to not require a password for 30min
    so when my phone goes to sleep and I go back to it some minutes later
    I open it, get my tiles and it takes a few seconds to be able to use it.
    But, this is ONLY because of the Lock Screen Beta, WHICH IS A BETA.

    No, I have zero lag in anything, other than that which I mentioned.

    This comes back to the Vista days, when people were buying cheap PC's with only 512mb of RAM
    and expecting a super computer. you get what you pay for. Enjoy.

    For the record,, I do not know what peoples issues are with xBox Music app
    It works perfectly fine for me.
    07-28-2014 06:08 PM
  25. Tepid's Avatar
    Doesn't the amount of ram seem to be more an issue for the resuming problem than the lag problem? I think the problem for lag has more to do with the gpu and CPU, because when everything is loaded in ram in the resuming part, the ram wouldn't be a bottleneck in the startscreen right?
    That all depends on how the app is configured in code to run.
    And, weather something else potentially knocked it out of ram, or if something is running in background that is trying finish it's processes.
    There are many factors actually, and it can be very hard to determine on a phone, PC's are easier to diagnose for these types of issues.
    But it seems that the only ones suffering from lag or resume issues are the 512M devices.
    07-28-2014 06:14 PM
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