08-12-2014 01:12 PM
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  1. Fade_z's Avatar
    I often see posts on the internet regarding how much windows phone sucks or how they would never use it no matter how good it is;

    My most recent example is this ; https://twitter.com/9GAG/status/498151791348166656 The official 9gag twitter account saying that no matter how good WP will be i would still stay at apple..

    How come people have this ultra negative attitude towards WP? i mean i understand alot of hate that WP gets, then again Apple and Google get alot of hate on their OS'es.
    Siang X and ven07 like this.
    08-09-2014 12:08 PM
  2. aikidaves's Avatar
    Haters gotta hate.
    k72 likes this.
    08-09-2014 12:13 PM
  3. dj9928's Avatar
    A lot of folk have this attitude, it could be a carry on from the Windows Mobile days which was $hit, To be honest the love of all things Apple and iPhone baffles me, I recently got an iPhone 5C as a free upgrade, played with it a day and it just had to go, iOS is rubbish, I can't understand why it gets so much love. So eBayed the 5C and got a 920 and wireless charger and still had over 100 left from what I got from the 5C.
    jomarr, M L, ven07 and 1 others like this.
    08-09-2014 12:14 PM
  4. James8561's Avatar
    people's opinion? it doesn't matter. don't feel offended by it.
    ven07, k72 and M L like this.
    08-09-2014 12:14 PM
  5. mjrtoo's Avatar
    People get locked into the apple ecosystem. It's extremely hard to make that change when you have potentially thousands of dollars invested in it, and would lose it all when you change. They rationalize this to themselves by bashing the other phones.
    tanujkhandelwal585 and ven07 like this.
    08-09-2014 12:21 PM
  6. nicfromwales's Avatar
    It's really odd, and goes further than simple fanboyism. I have a friend who's 32 and uses an iPhone 5, and each time the fact I use a Lumia Windows Phone comes up, he's compelled to make a derogatory comment. The most recent was "have you had BSOD yet?". As far as I'm aware, he's never even used Windows Phone. He isn't an Apple fanboy, he definitely doesn't frequent online forums to discuss mobile operating systems. I have no idea where his opposition to WP comes from. The only logical thing I can think of, is that using the iPhone brand has made him *believe* his phone is superior in some way. Or that because he pays a fortune for it, it must be the best. It's just very odd.
    k72, ven07, jomarr and 2 others like this.
    08-09-2014 12:29 PM
  7. dj9928's Avatar
    Apple would be my last choice of phone at the moment, don't get me wrong I had the 3G,3GS,4,4S, and the 5C for a day, but I think after about iOS4 things just got stuck for the iPhone while everyone else over took them, iOS is just so dated now its horrible, Now I have owned a Nexus 4 in the past and do love android, but for we WP just has the edge.
    ven07 likes this.
    08-09-2014 12:49 PM
  8. tanujkhandelwal585's Avatar
    Seriously, even I have a friend like this....appreciating "Android" all the time. Android though is a nice OS, maximum apps comes first on android, but still if compared to Windows OS, Android is somehow lagging behind in features like fast processing in low RAM, virus free OS(I heard so), regular exciting updates, increasing games and apps, etc etc. Windows OS is just increasing its extend beyond user expectations. Right or not? I have used both OS, obvio found Windows much better. No complaints regarding Windows OS.
    08-09-2014 01:29 PM
  9. aikidaves's Avatar
    It's really odd, and goes further than simple fanboyism. I have a friend who's 32 and uses an iPhone 5, and each time the fact I use a Lumia Windows Phone comes up, he's compelled to make a derogatory comment. The most recent was "have you had BSOD yet?". As far as I'm aware, he's never even used Windows Phone. He isn't an Apple fanboy, he definitely doesn't frequent online forums to discuss mobile operating systems. I have no idea where his opposition to WP comes from. The only logical thing I can think of, is that using the iPhone brand has made him *believe* his phone is superior in some way. Or that because he pays a fortune for it, it must be the best. It's just very odd.
    In certain circles it's very fashionable to despise Windows in any form and/or to hate Microsoft just because it's Microsoft. This attitude was VERY common in the '90s during the Windows-OS/2 wars, it didn't flag during the antitrust suits of the late '90s and early aughts, and any Apple, Linux, or Android True Believer maintains it to this day. Your friend may not be a True Believer, but if he's been exposed to some he may have caught the bug. Lots of folks repeat what True Believers say because of the fashionability.

    Of course, we have WP True Believers, too. Main difference is they haven't been mainstream fashionable yet.

    My wife and kids have iPhones. They're nice phones and work for them. I have a Lumia 920 because it does what I need and it's more fun for me, not because of any True Believer nonsense.
    ven07 likes this.
    08-09-2014 01:31 PM
  10. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I think it's a combination of the lack of apps and the history Microsoft has with mobile phones. Their older phones really sucked and up until 8.1 they've really just haven't been the best options. I think that on top of the whole lack of apps turns the average person completely off to the idea of windows phone. I think it's more of the association that had gone along with the branding.

    It's like Kia cars. Although they've gotten considerably better and actually make decent cards they'll always been known for when they were complete junk.
    ven07 likes this.
    08-09-2014 01:37 PM
  11. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    A bad reputation is hard to shake and something so easily avoidable imo for a company with as much resources as Microsoft but now that the reputation is there they will have an uphill battle.
    ven07 likes this.
    08-09-2014 01:38 PM
  12. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    Not only do windows phones need to be better than the competition they also need to be cooler.
    08-09-2014 01:39 PM
  13. vk1971's Avatar
    It's PR, it's psychology, it's well conducted advertisement campaigns + consistency in performance over the years, which form a BRAND and its value. That's where WP struggles.
    08-09-2014 01:46 PM
  14. PradeepKr's Avatar
    Apple or Google may have something that may be better but majority of people criticise or overlook WP because of Sheep Walk attitude and after that need for justification of there choice. They are afraid of making choices that does not belong to majority.
    08-09-2014 01:50 PM
  15. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    08-09-2014 01:58 PM
  16. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Pricing can play a psychological factor when it comes to technology, it is expensive "so it must be a premium and amazing product", When I'm having my off days and my ios totting friends make a derogatory comment - all i say is "Lets do a drop test and check what is more durable, my "dino" 920 or your fancy smancy iphone 5s inside their cases", that shuts them right up (two have tried previously, need less to say they were at the Stratford Westfield Apple Store in under an hour and still are not speaking to me)
    James8561, RumoredNow and k72 like this.
    08-09-2014 11:39 PM
  17. Guytronic's Avatar
    I often see posts on the internet regarding how much windows phone sucks or how they would never use it no matter how good it is;

    My most recent example is this ; https://twitter.com/9GAG/status/498151791348166656 The official 9gag twitter account saying that no matter how good WP will be i would still stay at apple..

    How come people have this ultra negative attitude towards WP? i mean i understand alot of hate that WP gets, then again Apple and Google get alot of hate on their OS'es.
    My thought is:
    The internet is the best way to propagate "hate" for anything.
    Being positive is for happy people who stay far far away from the web.

    Heck I sit and drink beer with other phone OS users sharing pics and happy stuff we found on the web and we like each other...
    Meanwhile arguing on the internet continues.
    08-09-2014 11:54 PM
  18. aikidaves's Avatar
    My thought is:
    The internet is the best way to propagate "hate" for anything.
    Being positive is for happy people who stay far far away from the web.
    Very true! Haters gotta hate (and post about it on the net).
    k72, Guytronic and Aremosiur like this.
    08-09-2014 11:59 PM
  19. k72's Avatar
    My thought is:
    The internet is the best way to propagate "hate" for anything.
    Being positive is for happy people who stay far far away from the web.

    Heck I sit and drink beer with other phone OS users sharing pics and happy stuff we found on the web and we like each other...
    Meanwhile arguing on the internet continues.
    Great advice for life in general right there.
    08-10-2014 12:10 AM
  20. AG VK's Avatar
    It's really odd, and goes further than simple fanboyism. I have a friend who's 32 and uses an iPhone 5, and each time the fact I use a Lumia Windows Phone comes up, he's compelled to make a derogatory comment. The most recent was "have you had BSOD yet?". As far as I'm aware, he's never even used Windows Phone. He isn't an Apple fanboy, he definitely doesn't frequent online forums to discuss mobile operating systems. I have no idea where his opposition to WP comes from. The only logical thing I can think of, is that using the iPhone brand has made him *believe* his phone is superior in some way. Or that because he pays a fortune for it, it must be the best. It's just very odd.
    No, using the Windows brand for years has made many people antipathic towards MS in general and towards anything with the name Windows in particular.

    For years, it's been an accepted fact that Windows=crashes, BSODs, viruses, performance issues and so on (yes, this was mostly fixed in W7 and up). Naturally, when people hear that you have Windows on phones these days, they naturally assume that WP behaves the same way as their eight year old Windows XP laptop.
    08-10-2014 01:06 AM
  21. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    It may also be that the brand Windows remind people of work. Long hours in your station typing reports on excel or word.

    Haha!!

    Windows is cool now but the message hasn't really gotten across to the mainstream yet.
    ven07, Christopher Lindsay and k72 like this.
    08-10-2014 01:20 AM
  22. Fade_z's Avatar
    My thought is:
    The internet is the best way to propagate "hate" for anything.
    Being positive is for happy people who stay far far away from the web.

    Heck I sit and drink beer with other phone OS users sharing pics and happy stuff we found on the web and we like each other...
    Meanwhile arguing on the internet continues.
    Well i would be surprised if people actually get affected in real life by what phone they have, i can not imagine that i wouldn't hang out with people who has android or iOS because i dont really care.

    But yeah i agree, on the internet hate/negative thoughts are easier to release into the wild and happy ones are usually kept to specific forums or themselves entirely.
    k72, Aremosiur and Guytronic like this.
    08-10-2014 04:33 AM
  23. Jules W's Avatar
    Microsoft and Windows are very poor brands in the consumer space, as people remember using old Windows at home, with crashes, lags and driver installation issues. It has been such a relief to consumers to move to touch and reliable simple mobile operating systems with iOS and Android. So the consumers associated Windows Phone and Windows RT with old negative opinions. Windows is a reluctant established standard in Enterprise, and by IT. But Windows is considered a dull workhorse by the user community, who would rather bring in their iPads and Androids into work.

    This is why Microsoft need to rebrand their consumer phones and devices away from Windows and Microsoft. No matter how good a product, when it has poor branding, marketing cannot get any success with poisonous brands. rebranding to Xbox or Lumia Phones and Tablets would have more consumer success, Leaving Windows and Surface for Enterprise sales.
    djslofstra likes this.
    08-10-2014 09:35 AM
  24. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    You need to understand that Apple is the king of marketing. A key aspect of marketing is appealing to the intellectually challenged. So while everyone who uses an iPhone is not intellectually challenged and could be quite smart, if someone is intellectually challenged they are more likely to use an iPhone than a phone with weaker marketing. Therefore a higher percent of iPhone users are intellectually challenged than other types. This explains the negative ignorance. You will find the intellectually challenged iPhone users are just as stupid about other products they use.
    Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 08-10-2014 at 04:56 PM.
    08-10-2014 10:47 AM
  25. colinkiama's Avatar
    I think the siri vs cortana adverts are getting to them. Well Done MS :D you've gained FREE ADVERTISING.
    ven07, vish2801, ScottGeek and 1 others like this.
    08-10-2014 01:13 PM
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