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  1. Guzzler3's Avatar
    So when are we going to get Softcard (old ISIS Wallet) on Windows Phone?

    I have the secure SIM from T-Mobile in my L810, but still haven't gotten the tap-n-pay to work anywhere. With the possibility of Apple announcing their tap-n-pay with NFC soon, I already have been hearing people go gaga over the possibility. But I've seen Android phones do it at work with our tap-n-pay reader at work.

    The last time I looked into the tap-n-pay for WP, it was that we were waiting for an app from the ISIS folks. Has anyone heard of any updates?
    09-08-2014 10:17 PM
  2. RumoredNow's Avatar
    T-MoUS told me the Advanced (AKA Isis) SIM would enable Tap-to-Pay through my native wallet. Just tried it today for the first time and it was a fail.

    However, they may have had wrong info. The SIM may only enable Isis (now Softcard)... IDK. Info is so sketchy here in the US as people are resistant to change at the corporate level and have put too many roadblocks in place.
    09-08-2014 10:40 PM
  3. NutmegState's Avatar
    I am looking for the same info. According to the info on Wallet online, all you would need to do is put in your CC, enable tap-to-pay in the NFC Settings and also have a Payment SIM. If those 3 things are all set, you should be good to go. But I cannot find anyone who has been able to get it work yet
    09-09-2014 02:31 PM
  4. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The Walgreen where I tried has repeatedly stated most users fail to get a payment made with their Smartphone. I have to assume that means Android/Google Wallet.
    09-09-2014 04:23 PM
  5. Zorpley's Avatar
    Soon... For the past two years. Some people on reddit said that having the secure SIM, enabling NFC, and enabling payments in their phone worked fine. When I went to a Verizon store to figure out why it wasn't working, the confused reps said they had installed the ISIS app on a Lumia Icon just a week ago and couldn't figure out why there wasn't one available for my 822. So yeah, we can only hope that the new iPhone will convince carriers/Microsoft to fix NFC payments.
    09-09-2014 08:20 PM
  6. JRGdeCT's Avatar
    Isis... now Softcard... said they were working on a Windows Phone App to be released back in late 2013. Now there is no word of it. I'm to the point where I will get rid of my Windows Phone and move to Apple. I bought my Windows Phone (lumia 1020) because it was NFC enabled and I was told I could use the Wallet feature to pay for things. What a lie!!! I waited patiently for Softcard. I'm done. I can easily change phones. If the I-phone will allow NFC payments I'll go that way and the ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile JV cluster mess Softcard (formerly known as a terrorist organization) can go out of business.
    09-10-2014 04:20 PM
  7. ashram's Avatar
    well, blame the carriers and softcard. softcard was agreed upon by AT&T, Sprint and Verizon, thus why on quite a few of their android devices, google wallet was disabled. Softcard, via twitter, have been saying "REAL SOON" for about 6 months now.... Even worse, is that softcard doesn't work with all banks, like google wallet does, so on top of a secure sim, we still need something that plugs into the wallet app to allow this to happen.
    09-10-2014 04:51 PM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm on AT&T with the "secure SIM", Wells Fargo is my bank and I couldn't get a GS3 on KitKat to work with ISIS. If I couldn't make it work with all the right components, I'm not going to get my boxers in a bunch because there's no WP app yet. Chances are it won't work right when it does come out and you'll see people blaming it on WP like they do everything else.
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    09-10-2014 05:06 PM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The US banking and business establishments are (justifiably?) lawyer shy. They feel that if they aren't "in control" from a-z some consumer is going to institute a class action suit against them if the tap-to-pay double bills, over bills, alows a minor use without parental consent, etc.

    This is a US problem, from what I understand. Now there are a bunch of standards out there and which one to follow to a successful transaction is beyond most users.
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    09-10-2014 05:50 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The US banking and business establishments are (justifiably?) lawyer shy. They feel that if they aren't "in control" from a-z some consumer is going to institute a class action suit against them if the tap-to-pay double bills, over bills, alows a minor use without parental consent, etc.

    This is a US problem, from what I understand. Now there are a bunch of standards out there and which one to follow to a successful transaction is beyond most users.

    You could argue that a credit card could get stolen or taken by a kid and used inappropriately or criminally. At least a smartphone can be remotely disabled to avoid further misuse. Let's face it, a missing phone is easier to notice than a credit card in a wallet.
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    09-10-2014 07:07 PM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I actually worked for over a year at a call center fielding reports from card holders with a major bank who needed to report fraud.

    Sad how many times it was a family member, friend, lover... And the long term abuse of the card that would go on.

    Even worse, the people in denial. Yep, you live in a town of under 10,000. Your card gets used only in your town, without a missed pin attempt; used for fast food, Walmart and $20-$60 withdrawls from an ATM. Always after 1 AM and never later than 4 AM. Right you are, that is a counterfeit card being used by someone you don't know. It could not possibly be one of your 3 teenage boys because they just wouldn't...

    ​P.S.: I hated that job due to what I heard from people. Makes you miserable.
    09-10-2014 10:04 PM
  12. FredW3's Avatar
    I don't see many places around Little Rock that accept ISIS. With the lack of acceptance, I assume they are not going to bother with the windows app. I think Apple may end up writing an app to use Apple's payment system on Windows Phone.
    09-17-2014 10:41 AM
  13. Charles Rice's Avatar
    Well, Softcard really botched this one... I remember last year about this time hoping to see NFC payments on my L920, here we are a year later and still unable to make NFC payments. This would have been a golden opportunity for WP to have a feature before Apple, and sell some damn phones in America, and yet the iPhone 6 releases this Friday with support out of the box. I think I'll be leaving windows phone for a Note Edge... Don't promise me a feature and then not follow through, this should have been something that MS helped them develop and push out in a timely manner. I purchased this phone after being shafted by WP7, with hopes of making NFC payments and having an awesome camera. The camera is now dated and NFC payments never came. Samsung cameras are on par or better than what the L930, L1520, Icon have to offer and they support NFC payments. WP continues to be a day late and a dollar short. Love the interface, love cortana, love the snappiness, the sophistication of the OS, love the build quality of the phones, but I hate being told I'm going to get a feature and never get it.
    I've been a huge supporter of WP, I have 3 friends using WP on my recommendation(who all love them), yet here I am ready to leave the platform for just one feature that I was promised. I have an upgrade burning a hole in my pocket, hopefully WP will have a new flagship before the Note Edge comes out, that way I at least have something else to consider.
    09-17-2014 11:41 AM
  14. Nathaniel Belmont's Avatar
    I have a L928 running 8.1DP all I had to do was get an nfc enabled sim from VZW, and boom! NFC payments via my wallet. 😊
    09-17-2014 12:02 PM
  15. JasCola's Avatar
    About 6 months to a year after the iPhone system is ubiquitous to all locations. Then Microsoft will get their butts in gear and fix the issues that they have, and get 2 retailers to support it.
    09-17-2014 03:37 PM
  16. sketchy9's Avatar
    I have a L928 running 8.1DP all I had to do was get an nfc enabled sim from VZW, and boom! NFC payments via my wallet.
    Can you elaborate on this? I assume you mean a secure-element SIM from Verizon, since the 928 has NFC built in. You are using only the wallet app? Where did it work? Thanks.
    09-18-2014 11:41 AM
  17. Guzzler3's Avatar
    I have a L928 running 8.1DP all I had to do was get an nfc enabled sim from VZW, and boom! NFC payments via my wallet.
    Can you elaborate on this? I assume you mean a secure-element SIM from Verizon, since the 928 has NFC built in. You are using only the wallet app? Where did it work? Thanks.
    Yes, PLEASE elaborate. I've had a secure SIM from T-Mobile in my L810 for almost a year now, and I keep trying to use NFC payments where I can and I haven't gotten it to work, yet.

    My co-worker on a Samsung S(something) has been trying also, with minimal success also.
    09-18-2014 12:30 PM
  18. Talderon's Avatar
    I have been using it successfully in my Android Phone. I have the Softcard Wallet on it and have used it to successfully pay at several vending machines as well as at Office Depot.

    I wish I had this on my Windows Phone though. I got lucky and signed up for this when they were running some special here I signed up for the AmEx Serve card and was given $15.00 for applying for the card and $15.00 for my first card load (only added $5).

    Overall, great program and deals if you keep your eye out for them. :D
    09-18-2014 01:10 PM
  19. radmanvr's Avatar
    Look at what you did OP, NSA will be all over these forums now because you used that 4 letter word
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    09-18-2014 01:12 PM
  20. gernerttl's Avatar
    Soon... For the past two years. Some people on reddit said that having the secure SIM, enabling NFC, and enabling payments in their phone worked fine. When I went to a Verizon store to figure out why it wasn't working, the confused reps said they had installed the ISIS app on a Lumia Icon just a week ago and couldn't figure out why there wasn't one available for my 822. So yeah, we can only hope that the new iPhone will convince carriers/Microsoft to fix NFC payments.
    How did they install the app??? ISIS (now Softcard) is not in the Windows Phone app store. If they were able to install it on an Icon, then it should work on any (or at least practically any) Windows Phone. Verizon was not the only carrier involved in Isis. AT&T and (I think) Sprint are also co-developers.

    Edit: The three US carries that support Softcard are Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile.
    Last edited by gernerttl; 09-23-2014 at 02:02 PM.
    09-22-2014 04:29 PM
  21. phelme's Avatar
    According to the paywithisis.com (Softcard) website, it works with all three U.S. carriers. What's interesting though is that with T-mobile's list of compatible Android phones, it's a select list (no Nexus phones for example), so simply having NFC may not be enough and the Softcard app may check the phone make. I've heard the Softcard app doesn't work on rooted phones either.

    I'm tempted to get a secure nano SIM for my 1520 and see what happens. The question is whether Wallet is enough or a (non-existent?) Softcard app is needed on WP. Seems like we have conflicting info.
    09-23-2014 12:43 PM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    What's interesting though is that with T-mobile's list of compatible Android phones, it's a select list (no Nexus phones for example)
    There are no T-Mobile Nexus phones. T-Mobile sold them, but they were not branded at all. They were the exact same thing you'd buy from the Play Store. And I assure you that you can use tap to pay with a Nexus device using T-Mobile. I've done it many times.

    Basically, if an Android device has NFC & KitKat, you can use tap to pay. It doesn't matter whether it's carrier branded or not. There are about 2 or 3 exceptions due to hardware limitations. (I'll soon have this posted on every thread talking about tap to pay! )
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    09-23-2014 01:07 PM
  23. phelme's Avatar
    There are no T-Mobile Nexus phones. T-Mobile sold them, but they were not branded at all. They were the exact same thing you'd buy from the Play Store. And I assure you that you can use tap to pay with a Nexus device using T-Mobile. I've done it many times.
    Heh, I know about T-Mobile and Nexus phones; my Nexus 5 won't work with my T-Mobile SIM because I have a grandfathered plan which blocks a bunch of Nexus IMEI's. ;)

    Looks like I missed the part about WP 8.1, Wallet and NFC being decoupled now. Guess we have to wait on a Softcard app. Shame.
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    09-23-2014 01:19 PM
  24. gernerttl's Avatar
    There are no T-Mobile Nexus phones. T-Mobile sold them, but they were not branded at all. They were the exact same thing you'd buy from the Play Store. And I assure you that you can use tap to pay with a Nexus device using T-Mobile. I've done it many times.

    Basically, if an Android device has NFC & KitKat, you can use tap to pay. It doesn't matter whether it's carrier branded or not. There are about 2 or 3 exceptions due to hardware limitations. (I'll soon have this posted on every thread talking about tap to pay! )
    This is true. I myself had a Galaxy Nexus with Verizon and Verizon blocked Google Wallet app (I had to side load it). Once I side loaded it, I could use it, until the next time Google updated the app, then I would have to side load it again.

    However, a buddy of mine had the Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile and he could use Google Wallet with no worries. The ONLY difference between his GNex and mine was he got his thru the Play Store and I got mine via Ebay, but it was Verizon branded (i.e. the CDMA stuff and Verizon bloat ware).

    Now if Verizon (in my case) and the other two carriers that are part of Softcard were to make Softcard available for WP then, I would be happy. The ONLY reason the Icon is not compatible is because of the lack of app support and nothing else.
    09-23-2014 01:59 PM
  25. anon6002755's Avatar
    I'm tempted to get a secure nano SIM for my 1520 and see what happens. The question is whether Wallet is enough or a (non-existent?) Softcard app is needed on WP. Seems like we have conflicting info.
    My Icon came with a secure sim(swapped it to my old G2 to test it out) and it didnt do a thing for me but make me hold up the line at the register and embarrass me. And yes my wallet has a few different cards attached to it with my american express serve card that softcard likes so much. But that was just my experience, ymmv.
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    09-24-2014 01:02 PM
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