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  1. mark2410's Avatar
    i think regarding apps the issue isnt number, its quality. or maybe its just when you search for things the no doubt bing powered search is err, poo.

    maybe the apps are poo or maybe its just findnig them. actually bing is the worst aspect of cortana, its a clever feature up untill it "bings" something. there is a reason no one uses bing, no matter how many times google do soemthing to irritate me and i try to use bing to spite them. the fact is bing is just no where near as good.
    09-25-2014 05:26 PM
  2. ScruffyT's Avatar
    While I would agree that iOS is somewhat behind when it comes to the home screen, the lock screen notifications somewhat make up for it, Windows Phone has pretty terrible lock screen notifications.

    Both OSes need to improve on this.

    Just my opinion.
    Yeah, but the iOS home screen is just depressing and pretty much offers no info. At least the lock screen notifications on WP are still functional (5 quick statuses and a detailed preview that I use for email). You can also pull the notification center down on the lockscreen which is mostly what the iphone's lock screen is. My big problem with WP right now is how limited the notification center's quick actions are.

    Also, look, see how much info I can get for my day by simply unlocking my phone. iOS is more than somewhat behind IMO. The 318 tile flips as well to give me my daily task list. It shows the next 7 tasks by priority or due date. Flipping can also be turned off. The budget buddy app also flips to give me a detailed look of my budget.
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    09-25-2014 09:44 PM
  3. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Do you really want to start on missing apps as compared to iOS?
    Lets start then..... Please read my comment again. I said INDIA specifically. There is literally no app gap for WP in India. It has also been mentioned by WPC quite a few times. Read carefully before commenting sarcastically please. Also, the app arguement is kind of moot anyway,I could point out a few thousand more apps or more that are not on ios, and you could do the same. But in India, that is not the case. iOS is far behind when it comes to apps,as very very few people own ios. WP is the second most used OS there. Devs don't prefer to build for ios, they obviously go for the larger populace. For example, you can't book train tickets in India using ios or Android. But you can using WP as they have an official IRCTC app. All the apps I mentioned above are not on Android, too. WP gets a lot of love in India
    09-25-2014 10:25 PM
  4. ScruffyT's Avatar
    When I want your opinion, I'll just give it to you. Just kidding of course, iOS & WP suck at notifications for the simple fact that a glowing LED could tell you there's something, perhaps important, that needs your attention. I can't wrap my head around this glaring omission. Palm Treos used to have their LED under the paint so you couldn't even know they were there until they started to glow in red or green.
    Glance is solid but some people who have poor eyesight may not like it. Also, I have to admit that some angles make it hard to see. My phone is usually near me though.

    I think this is a fallacy. *snip*

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    I only skimmed your post, but ultimately this is what I've been saying for years. Apple "app for that" commercials really did their work, at least here in the US. I downloaded tons, and I mean tons, of apps when I first got my iphone. Heck, I probably downloaded a bunch of apps consistently for the first year or so. But I never really came close to using all, or most, of them. They were just taking up space. Back in my TA days when I was an avid iOS gamer, we would even call our habits "popcorn gaming."

    But, even with all that being said, there is a clear disparity when it comes to games, support, and apps in general. And every now and then I do wish I had a couple of apps that are on, or acre coming to, iOS on WP.

    Haha
    It's not apps but technology which is making us lazy.

    You should stop using technology and see how it goes
    I actually wrote a term paper on this exact subject. It's actually an interesting subject. On one hand the case can be made that tech does make us lazy or think less. On the other hand. it has the ability to let us focus on more important things. An example would be using the full organizational capabilities of a smart device and only focusing on doing the work. It's one of those things: are people just lazy or does tech make them lazy? What is laziness? Is being on fb all day lazy or simply unproductive. How do we solve the problems? Motivational rewards through things like achievements appear to work for adults, not just kids. The paper is from a couple years ago, but I'm pretty sure my main point was that these are growing pangs that can be ironed out fairly easily.

    edit (Regarding my last paragraph) It doesn't even really take into account things like occupational psych and escapism.
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    09-25-2014 10:41 PM
  5. prasath1234's Avatar
    Lets start then..... Please read my comment again. I said INDIA specifically. There is literally no app gap for WP in India. It has also been mentioned by WPC quite a few times. Read carefully before commenting sarcastically please. Also, the app arguement is kind of moot anyway,I could point out a few thousand more apps or more that are not on ios, and you could do the same. But in India, that is not the case. iOS is far behind when it comes to apps,as very very few people own ios. WP is the second most used OS there. Devs don't prefer to build for ios, they obviously go for the larger populace. For example, you can't book train tickets in India using ios or Android. But you can using WP as they have an official IRCTC app. All the apps I mentioned above are not on Android, too. WP gets a lot of love in India

    Oh is it so I do not know about iOS app gap in India.i don't understand iOS is used by rich still no apps by developers shame on the developers.
    09-27-2014 02:26 AM
  6. Torcher Death's Avatar
    Oh is it so I do not know about iOS app gap in India.i don't understand iOS is used by rich still no apps by developers shame on the developers.
    Cause the rich don't really need that many apps, just the popular ones would be enough.
    09-27-2014 02:53 AM
  7. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Cause the rich don't really need that many apps, just the popular ones would be enough.
    thats not true
    thats generalising
    not all ios users are isheep who dont use many apps,some are even developers and professionals
    09-27-2014 03:14 AM
  8. prasath1234's Avatar
    For professional iPhone is only way to go.it has many apps for their profession especially if you are in medical field.
    From Windows phone
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    09-27-2014 03:26 AM
  9. salmanahmad's Avatar
    For professional iPhone is only way to go.it has many apps for their profession especially if you are in medical field.
    From Windows phone
    I would disagree.

    Yes iOS has lots of great applications, but I've seen a lot of doctors in my country using Android.

    No offense but if you we're comparing iOS with Windows Phone, then I'll agree iOS will be the better OS for professionals.
    09-27-2014 04:02 AM
  10. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    For professional iPhone is only way to go.it has many apps for their profession especially if you are in medical field.
    From Windows phone
    Lol I'm a medical student, and know a lot of doctors who use WP (Lumia 520, 1020 even) and there isn't any shortage of medical apps. Besides, indian doctors don't use smartphones that much for apps. Only for the occasional web and email, medical journal etc, which they prefer to read on a laptop or desktop computer at their clinic. I don't se iPhone helping or contributing in any significant way in the medical field. A WPC article once stated doctors who used a1020 to record a surgery. So, the final conclusion about Apps-medical students may use them, doctors very very rarely.
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    09-27-2014 05:25 AM
  11. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Lol I'm a medical student, and know a lot of doctors who use WP (Lumia 520, 1020 even) and there isn't any shortage of medical apps. Besides, indian doctors don't use smartphones that much for apps. Only for the occasional web and email, medical journal etc, which they prefer to read on a laptop or desktop computer at their clinic. I don't se iPhone helping or contributing in any significant way in the medical field. A WPC article once stated doctors who used a1020 to record a surgery. So, the final conclusion about Apps-medical students may use them, doctors very very rarely.
    My cousin being a doctor spends a lot of his time using Medscape on his Android phone, no official app for it can be found on Windows Phone according to my searches.

    Add to that Android and iPhone also have official emergency medical apps for regular people that give offline videos tutorials in case of any kind of emergency.

    The medical profession and most other professions is aided better by Android and iPhone.

    While yes I also read the 1020 is used for research due to it's insane 41 MP camera, that's nice. ๐Ÿ‘
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    09-27-2014 06:41 AM
  12. luxnws's Avatar
    i think regarding apps the issue isnt number, its quality. or maybe its just when you search for things the no doubt bing powered search is err, poo.

    maybe the apps are poo or maybe its just findnig them. actually bing is the worst aspect of cortana, its a clever feature up untill it "bings" something. there is a reason no one uses bing, no matter how many times google do soemthing to irritate me and i try to use bing to spite them. the fact is bing is just no where near as good.
    Bing search results have improved over the past 4-5 years although I've read that Bing might be spotty in some non-U.S. countries. For my use, Bing is now good enough that I've gone from almost 100% Google/0% Bing search ratio a few years ago to about 50%/50% now.

    Cortana paired with Bing services is 'okay enough' at the moment. When you think of how many people actually have access to Cortana given tiny WP's market share in the U.S. and then of that number how many actually use Cortana daily, it's a small number. When more users have access to Cortana as MS includes it in their other products, the overall results should improve. Hopefully that will carry over to international markets too.
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    09-27-2014 08:51 AM
  13. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Bing search results have improved over the past 4-5 years although I've read that Bing might be spotty in some non-U.S. countries. For my use, Bing is now good enough that I've gone from almost 100% Google/0% Bing search ratio a few years ago to about 50%/50% now.

    Cortana paired with Bing services is 'okay enough' at the moment. When you think of how many people actually have access to Cortana given tiny WP's market share in the U.S. and then of that number how many actually use Cortana daily, it's a small number. When more users have access to Cortana as MS includes it in their other products, the overall results should improve. Hopefully that will carry over to international markets too.
    Bing is better than Google. Else, why would Siri use Bing? ;) - WP and iOS both use Bing for their personal assistant's assistant. Only Google uses Google and that is because it wants more data for selling.
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    09-27-2014 09:39 AM
  14. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    My cousin being a doctor spends a lot of his time using Medscape on his Android phone, no official app for it can be found on Windows Phone according to my searches.

    Add to that Android and iPhone also have official emergency medical apps for regular people that give offline videos tutorials in case of any kind of emergency.

    The medical profession and most other professions is aided better by Android and iPhone.

    While yes I also read the 1020 is used for research due to it's insane 41 MP camera, that's nice. ๐Ÿ‘
    true dat!! my cousin is doing MBBS as well and needs an iphone for his college
    09-27-2014 10:22 AM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    My cousin being a doctor spends a lot of his time using Medscape on his Android phone, no official app for it can be found on Windows Phone according to my searches.

    Add to that Android and iPhone also have official emergency medical apps for regular people that give offline videos tutorials in case of any kind of emergency.

    The medical profession and most other professions is aided better by Android and iPhone.

    While yes I also read the 1020 is used for research due to it's insane 41 MP camera, that's nice. ๏‘
    Epocrates is the quintessential medical app and it's not available for WP yet. I know Android has it because it's on my wife's phone. This is a huge fail for WP and I'm glad it's being discussed here. I never gave it much thought because I have it loaded on my Palm T/X PDA and until the Mrs. got an Android, that's where she got her info. I'm partial to the Palm app because it's not web-based and much more complete. As enormous as the healthcare field is, maybe some emails need to start being sent to MS or the folks who created Epocrates.
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    09-27-2014 10:41 AM
  16. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Epocrates is the quintessential medical app and it's not available for WP yet. I know Android has it because it's on my wife's phone. This is a huge fail for WP and I'm glad it's being discussed here. I never gave it much thought because I have it loaded on my Palm T/X PDA and until the Mrs. got an Android, that's where she got her info. I'm partial to the Palm app because it's not web-based and much more complete. As enormous as the healthcare field is, maybe some emails need to start being sent to MS or the folks who created Epocrates.
    Wait...wait so that's your wife in the photo and you are the one in the Tuxedo?

    Thanks for solving that mystery, I always thought you we're the woman on the left. :P

    Honest mistake, I don't mean to offend you.
    09-27-2014 10:49 AM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Wait...wait so that's your wife in the photo and you are the one in the Tuxedo?

    Thanks for solving that mystery, I always thought you we're the woman on the left. :P

    Honest mistake, I don't mean to offend you.
    No offense taken, it's human nature to gravitate toward good looking people. Yes, that's me in the monkey suit.
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    09-27-2014 10:59 AM
  18. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    My cousin being a doctor spends a lot of his time using Medscape on his Android phone, no official app for it can be found on Windows Phone according to my searches.

    Add to that Android and iPhone also have official emergency medical apps for regular people that give offline videos tutorials in case of any kind of emergency.

    The medical profession and most other professions is aided better by Android and iPhone.

    While yes I also read the 1020 is used for research due to it's insane 41 MP camera, that's nice. ๐Ÿ‘
    Hmm... Well I have a grandfather who is an anaesthesiologist,a cousin who has finished mbbs, and 3 other cousins who are dentists, all of them in Tamil Nadu. Most of them use basic phones, and are doing very well in their profession without the need for a smartphone. That said, I do agree medical apps are quite useful sometimes, but I still stand by my statement that doctors use medical apps very rarely. All the doctors I've visited over the years, or have ever known have not used/relied on smartphones for any kind of help. Bear in mind that this is only for India,I don't know about other countries. Perhaps the coming generation of doctors will change the level of dependence on mobile apps? :)


    There are tons of medical emergency apps on WP, including video support, and other unique features. Check out these-
    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...c-00237de2db9e

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...6-df7e50d8a289

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...a-8aec6fd36556

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...6-fcf5c95118c0

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...4-97c6112574e6

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...5-eab503d27a4e

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...a-5d9f963fc461


    There are many more apps besides these, including a medical calculator, medical dictionary, and tons of other stuff. WP also has medical apps, do some research before comparing. :)
    09-27-2014 11:18 AM
  19. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Hmm... Well I have a grandfather who is an anaesthesiologist,a cousin who has finished mbbs, and 3 other cousins who are dentists, all of them in Tamil Nadu. Most of them use basic phones, and are doing very well in their profession without the need for a smartphone. That said, I do agree medical apps are quite useful sometimes, but I still stand by my statement that doctors use medical apps very rarely. All the doctors I've visited over the years, or have ever known have not used/relied on smartphones for any kind of help. Bear in mind that this is only for India,I don't know about other countries. Perhaps the coming generation of doctors will change the level of dependence on mobile apps? :)

    There are tons of medical emergency apps on WP, including video support, and other unique features. Check out these-
    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...c-00237de2db9e

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...6-df7e50d8a289

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...a-8aec6fd36556

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...6-fcf5c95118c0

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...4-97c6112574e6

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...5-eab503d27a4e

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...a-5d9f963fc461


    There are many more apps besides these, including a medical calculator, medical dictionary, and tons of other stuff. WP also has medical apps, do some research before comparing. :)
    I'm willing to admit that indeed there will be great replacements for many of the apps that Android and iOS users depend on.

    But the replacements will not appeal to those who need to get serious work done, and those who like having apps from genuine health professionals.

    There's just something about apps made officially by WebMD or the Red Cross that makes them for me and for a lot other people better than any 3rd party clients.

    Apart from just the medical profession, there are also are also other professions which have barely any good apps on the Windows Phone Store.

    Again I appreciate the time you took to point out all those great apps, but app quality and quantity is still a problem on WP, one that we all hope is finished sometime soon.
    09-27-2014 11:27 AM
  20. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    09-27-2014 11:29 AM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm willing to admit that indeed there will be great replacements for many of the apps that Android and iOS users depend on.

    But the replacements will not appeal to those who need to get serious work done, and those who like having apps from genuine health professionals.

    There's just something about apps made officially by WebMD or the Red Cross that makes them for me and for a lot other people better than any 3rd party clients.

    Apart from just the medical profession, there are also are also other professions which have barely any good apps on the Windows Phone Store.

    Again I appreciate the time you took to point out all those great apps, but app quality and quantity is still a problem on WP, one that we all hope is finished sometime soon.
    No AutoCAD, inexcusable. Fact is, there are no .dwg viewers at all. In all fairness, the Android and iOS versions of AutoCAD are very basic but at least you can view and so some very limited editing. What MS does have in spades are x86 tablets that are life savers for those of us in the design/build industry.
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    09-27-2014 11:38 AM
  22. prasath1234's Avatar
    Yeh Vaibhav thanks for pointing some great apps.but they would not have same quality as that of android or iPhone.
    From Windows phone
    09-27-2014 11:42 AM
  23. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Again, they are clients not the official apps.

    I'll have access to a Windows Phone again in a week's time I'm willing to compare the Medscape clients on WP versus the official apps.

    But my initial impressions is that the mEdscape is better on Android/Ios.
    09-27-2014 11:48 AM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Yeh Vaibhav thanks for pointing some great apps.but they would not have same quality as that of android or iPhone.
    From Windows phone
    Is that statement based on firsthand knowledge or just an assumption?
    09-27-2014 11:48 AM
  25. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Again, they are clients not the official apps.

    I'll have access to a Windows Phone again in a week's time I'm willing to compare the Medscape clients on WP versus the official apps.

    But my initial impressions is that the mEdscape is better on Android/Ios.
    its not that great on android either my cousin says
    the ios version is the best so far
    09-27-2014 11:53 AM
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