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  1. tgp's Avatar
    I've been eligible for 14 days now to get an upgrade. I think I will hold out till Q1 or Q2 for these Windows 9 devices. If they release the 830 in the next 30-60 days I see that as an actual downgrade (if you have an Icon or m8)
    What I would do is to upgrade with an iPhone or high end Android and sell it. Keep the cash, and it will probably cover the full cost of Verizon's next WP.
    Kevin Rush and snowmutt like this.
    09-25-2014 01:38 PM
  2. fdalbor's Avatar
    Verizon is not bad about updates, they are just bad about Windows updates. My brother has a Samsung S3 that started out with Ice Cream , then went to Jelly Bean and then KitKat. When he got his new LG L3 three days ago his S3 had recently received KitKat 4.4.3. And everyone knows how they wisk IOs updates threw. Its only Windows updates that they seem to not care about. Makes ya wonder why they have all those new Lumia's when they don't seem to care about the Windows phones they already have. Myself I just moved from At&T to Consumer Cellular, My wife and I are paying almost 100$ a month less than what we paid to AT&T (three phones). Of course we still have to rely on AT&T for updates as Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network and phones. I question now they can affort the same service on the same network for so much less money.
    Last edited by fdalbor; 09-25-2014 at 03:12 PM.
    09-25-2014 02:55 PM
  3. badcat's Avatar
    Switch carriers. Buy new WP device with 8.1 on board or via update. Enjoy the WP goodness. Life is good. Sorted.
    I wish it was that easy. T-Mo and Sprint suck where I live. AT&T sucks period. Verizon just sucks less. Coverage matters and their coverage is way better here, unfortunately. They don't do much to inspire customer loyalty.
    DavidinCT likes this.
    09-25-2014 05:56 PM
  4. Hotvak123's Avatar
    no, no, no, do you really think that Microsoft going to let Verizon dictate what phone is going to be updated or not, if Microsoft supports the phone Verizon will have to update when all testing is done.
    to both company satisfaction.
    Do you think Microsoft going to put billions of dollars it to a phone system to have a carrier tell them no were not doing the update. I sure there contract states other wise. Just be patient, it will happen unless the phone goes obsolete, but that's another story.
    09-25-2014 09:15 PM
  5. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    no, no, no, do you really think that Microsoft going to let Verizon dictate what phone is going to be updated or not, if Microsoft supports the phone Verizon will have to update when all testing is done.
    to both company satisfaction.
    Do you think Microsoft going to put billions of dollars it to a phone system to have a carrier tell them no were not doing the update. I sure there contract states other wise. Just be patient, it will happen unless the phone goes obsolete, but that's another story.
    That's the problem. A carrier can decide any phone they sold is obsolete. Its not uncommon. Hopefully MS makes sure the contract with the carrier says they have to agree but past contracts did not. The best solution to this and LOTS of problems is the stupid concept of letting the carriers get involved in any way other than being just one of many places to buy a phone. Do you let Exxon tell you you you have to buy your car from them if you want to use their gas and let them decide when it is obsolete? No. Why let carriers do the equivalent? Most places in the world have a lot more sense.
    RumoredNow and Kevin Rush like this.
    09-26-2014 01:51 PM
  6. stonetipapps's Avatar
    A major issue where I live is that only Verizon has decent coverage. AT&T is okay in some places. T-Mobile is non-existent. We also have to consider our multi-phone plan. So it isn't like I can easily, affordably maintain another phone for development testing. It took Verizon so long to come out with decent WP models like the 928 and the Icon. I'm happy with the Icon hardware, but am extremely disappointed that Verizon doesn't care, yet has so much control over its customers' hardware.

    Why does Verizon feel the need to limit its users? I'm not going to upgrade until June 2016 anyway.
    MikeSo and Kevin Rush like this.
    09-26-2014 04:18 PM
  7. jsooney's Avatar
    Verizon is a totally worthless company. I deal with them at both a business and home user level, and it's always painful. I'm always amazed that such a dysfunctional company can thrive as they do, but I guess that says more about the business environment than them. You're best bet is to just stay away if at all possible.
    09-26-2014 05:24 PM
  8. 11B1P's Avatar
    ....Bringing it here can do a lot. It bring this topic to the end user whom is getting screwed. These forums are most likely frequented by both Verizon and MS to see what is being said of them.
    The Board of Directors are the ones that need to hear from us. If you think they have time to look at the forums, you're fooling yourself.
    09-26-2014 05:26 PM
  9. Hotvak123's Avatar
    Verizon not worthless I remember the days when AT&T wasn't even in my area just Verizon.
    my first was a bag phone , and I was happy to be able to call across town. outside the town that was a hit and miss for connection, I used to make maps to show my courier drivers were to stop contact me with the bag phone, talk about frustration trying to contact them, but it was better then the held hand radio we used to use. and year after year Verizon improved the network to a point I don't have to make maps any more. Thank you Verizon. then came AT&T and T mobile, as far as I was concerned AT&T has half the coverage in my area then Verizon and T-Mobile is like using a bag phone. the drivers that switched from Verizon wished they didn't for there service turned to frustration for them and me. I am sure that both carriers will improve., but for now I am happy with Verizon they do exactly what I need, make and receive a phone calls without the frustrations. well almost. So Verizon is not worthless where would we be without them. back to string between two cans.
    09-26-2014 08:05 PM
  10. SpaceyO's Avatar
    The Board of Directors are the ones that need to hear from us. If you think they have time to look at the forums, you're fooling yourself.
    As are you if you think the BoD cares about a tiny subset of their customers wanting an update...especially around iPhone time...
    MikeSo likes this.
    09-26-2014 08:28 PM
  11. alexander alfveby's Avatar
    Last week when I got my icon there was a windows rep at the Verizon store saying the 8.1 would be out for Verizon in mid October that being said I did believe him nor did I want to wait so I went the dev route
    Kavu2 and jasqid like this.
    09-26-2014 08:40 PM
  12. EngDreams's Avatar
    Verizon always remind me of Apple
    09-28-2014 07:43 AM
  13. badcat's Avatar
    Verizon is a totally worthless company. I deal with them at both a business and home user level, and it's always painful. I'm always amazed that such a dysfunctional company can thrive as they do, but I guess that says more about the business environment than them. You're best bet is to just stay away if at all possible.
    As much as I agree with you, it comes down to coverage. I had Sprint for a while but I soon realized that a cell phone with out decent coverage is worthless. Everywhere I went, my phone was in roaming mode, which limited me to phone calls only. I don't like Verizon, but until someone else steps up coverage wise, I'm stuck with them.
    MikeSo likes this.
    09-28-2014 08:55 AM
  14. badcat's Avatar
    Verizon always remind me of Apple
    Apple without the frivolous lawsuits.
    09-28-2014 08:58 AM
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