1. ntice_521's Avatar
    If it's legal...how do you install an "xbox" app without an xbox?

    Seems like every game on WP requires xbox. Pretty annoying when I can install the same games on android without an xbox.
    09-30-2014 07:43 PM
  2. Noahma's Avatar
    Which country are you in? Your Xbox account IS your Microsoft account. Could the site be being blocked in your country or your location?
    I just went to xbox.com and signed in with my Microsoft account and there are no problems there.

    The reason for the xbox account is to track achievements and accomplishments between games. So say you play Age Of Empires: Castle siege it will tack your stats and you can continue on say on a tablet or desktop computer without loosing any progress between the different platforms.

    So the questions should be,
    1. are you in a country that would block access to the site?
    2. What web browser are you using on a desktop or laptop computer?
  3. Aresjr21's Avatar
    Not quite sure what you mean. Can you give an example of a "xbox" game on Android and one that is available for Xbox?
    09-30-2014 08:14 PM
  4. unnatixlr8's Avatar
    If it's legal...how do you install an "xbox" app without an xbox?

    Seems like every game on WP requires xbox. Pretty annoying when I can install the same games on android without an xbox.
    Xbox enabled games means they are tied with Xbox live achievements. And you don't need to have a Xbox to play those games. Just download games on your phone and play.
    Pretty much you can play the same game on Android and iPhone without Xbox live integration.

    In other words, it legal to have Windows phone with Xbox enabled games on it. It's a feature on this platform.
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    09-30-2014 08:25 PM
  5. ntice_521's Avatar
    Xbox enabled games means they are tied with Xbox live achievements. And you don't need to have a Xbox to play those games. Just download games on your phone and play.
    Pretty much you can play the same game on Android and iPhone without Xbox live integration.

    In other words, it legal to have Windows phone with Xbox enabled games on it. It's a feature on this platform.
    I can't even install an xbox game (never mind run it) without an xbox account. So I'm still confused....how do I install an xbox game WITHOUT an xbox account?
    09-30-2014 08:46 PM
  6. ntice_521's Avatar
    Not quite sure what you mean. Can you give an example of a "xbox" game on Android and one that is available for Xbox?
    I've never needed an xbox account to install an android game.

    I'm blocked from installing any "xbox" game on WP because I don't have an xbox account.
    09-30-2014 08:52 PM
  7. Aresjr21's Avatar
    I'm blocked from installing any "xbox" game on WP because I don't have an xbox account.
    Is that what you mean by illegal then?
    09-30-2014 08:54 PM
  8. ntice_521's Avatar
    Is that what you mean by illegal then?
    Well, I assume people who own xboxes have xbox accounts. Or maybe it's a subscription service. I don't know.
    09-30-2014 08:56 PM
  9. Aresjr21's Avatar
    Not necessarily. Xbox Live does have a tiered service, one free and one paid. However to download Xbox games the free account should suffice.
    09-30-2014 09:00 PM
  10. ntice_521's Avatar
    Not necessarily. Xbox Live does have a tiered service, one free and one paid. However to download Xbox games the free account should suffice.
    How do I ask for a free account?
    09-30-2014 09:04 PM
  11. jameshn's Avatar
    Go to xbox.com and create an account a silver xbox Live account is free once you have this account you are ready to download and install xbox games in your Phone
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    09-30-2014 11:31 PM
  12. ntice_521's Avatar
    Go to xbox.com and create an account a silver xbox Live account is free once you have this account you are ready to download and install xbox games in your Phone
    I tried but the site just crashes:

    -----
    Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

    Exception Details: xonline.common.webplatform.livecache.LivecacheResponseException: User_Account returned an error, HResult=0x80154002
    Calling LIVE service front door: User_Account
    for API: GetLinkedGamertag
    -----

    And so on...

    Is there an easier way?
    10-01-2014 12:13 AM
  13. Rick_Air's Avatar
    First off. Have your actually got a live/hotmail/outlook account?
    This account you use with your Windows phone basically IS you're Xbox account.
    All Microsoft services are tied together if you use the one account.
    To be fair I DID have an Xbox and account before I got the phone. But I've since set up a new phone for my wife and mother as well as talking a mate through the process.

    The account log in details you set your phone up with are the same details you need to log in to Xbox.
    This is the same for all Microsoft services eg OneDrive, Oulook, Skype
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    10-01-2014 12:34 AM
  14. Rick_Air's Avatar
    Then go to the Games section on your phone, it asks you to log in to Xbox Live. Use the log in described above.
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    10-01-2014 12:37 AM
  15. ntice_521's Avatar
    First off. Have your actually got a live/hotmail/outlook account?
    This account you use with your Windows phone basically IS you're Xbox account.
    All Microsoft services are tied together if you use the one account.
    To be fair I DID have an Xbox and account before I got the phone. But I've since set up a new phone for my wife and mother as well as talking a mate through the process.

    The account log in details you set your phone up with are the same details you need to log in to Xbox.
    This is the same for all Microsoft services eg OneDrive, Oulook, Skype
    Thanks for your help. I have no problems with Hotmail, OneDrive, Skype, etc. I can't log into xbox. I don't think xbox accounts even existed when I originally created my Microsoft account, so maybe I need a new Microsoft account. But I don't want to lose all my app purchases and contacts and everything, and really, it seems like too much trouble. Unless there is a legal way to install xbox games without an xbox account, I just won't be able to install WP games.
    10-01-2014 01:08 AM
  16. Rick_Air's Avatar
    I also don't get the fact you can't download Xbox branded games? Can you download the non branded games?

    Try logging onto Xbox.com on your pc using your details and see what happens.

    How long you've had your account shouldn't make any difference.

    Please don't take any offence, your questions and the details you're giving seem a bit strange and loose on information. I'm only saying as it makes it harder to get to the bottom of your problem.
    10-01-2014 07:02 AM
  17. ntice_521's Avatar
    I also don't get the fact you can't download Xbox branded games? Can you download the non branded games?
    Yes, because those don't require an xbox account.

    Try logging onto Xbox.com on your pc using your details and see what happens.
    The site crashes every time (see details above).

    How long you've had your account shouldn't make any difference.
    Shouldn't, I agree! But I suspect does.

    Please don't take any offence, your questions and the details you're giving seem a bit strange and loose on information. I'm only saying as it makes it harder to get to the bottom of your problem.
    Thanks to your information I'm convinced that the problem is a bug and not because I don't own an xbox or subscribe to any xbox services. Because my understanding now is that anyone is supposed to be able to get a free xbox account. It's just that in my case, I can't (unless I create a brand new Microsoft account which I don't want to do).
    10-01-2014 02:23 PM
  18. Noahma's Avatar
    Which country are you in? Your Xbox account IS your Microsoft account. Could the site be being blocked in your country or your location?
    I just went to xbox.com and signed in with my Microsoft account and there are no problems there.

    The reason for the xbox account is to track achievements and accomplishments between games. So say you play Age Of Empires: Castle siege it will tack your stats and you can continue on say on a tablet or desktop computer without loosing any progress between the different platforms.

    So the questions should be,
    1. are you in a country that would block access to the site?
    2. What web browser are you using on a desktop or laptop computer?
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-02-2014 12:02 AM
  19. ntice_521's Avatar
    Which country are you in? Your Xbox account IS your Microsoft account. Could the site be being blocked in your country or your location?
    I just went to xbox.com and signed in with my Microsoft account and there are no problems there.

    The reason for the xbox account is to track achievements and accomplishments between games. So say you play Age Of Empires: Castle siege it will tack your stats and you can continue on say on a tablet or desktop computer without loosing any progress between the different platforms.

    So the questions should be,
    1. are you in a country that would block access to the site?
    2. What web browser are you using on a desktop or laptop computer?
    Thanks for trying, but I'm not being blocked by Chinese censors, nor is my web browser the problem (I get the same crash when I use Windows Phone).

    Some google research has revealed that my problem is actually a common one, going back many years. It's not specific to Windows Phone; it also affects xboxes. Old Microsoft accounts simply can't log into xbox, because they lack a "gamertag", whatever that is. If I created a brand new Microsoft account, I would have no trouble, but I don't want to do that.
    10-02-2014 01:10 AM
  20. Rick_Air's Avatar
    I know you can set up a new account and transfer you old one to it. Their account page details how to do it, that way you shouldn't loose anything.
    Never had to do it myself so don't know exactly what it entails.
    10-02-2014 04:24 AM
  21. hprvez's Avatar
    To create a gamertag you only need to login in the xbox site, you browser/computer/connection is the problem. Sort it out
    10-02-2014 07:35 PM
  22. ntice_521's Avatar
    To create a gamertag you only need to login in the xbox site, you browser/computer/connection is the problem. Sort it out
    I can't log into xbox site, it crashes every time. See above for details. My browser/computer/connection is not a problem.
    10-02-2014 08:46 PM
  23. yeewiz's Avatar
    How about creating a new MS ID as an alias to your original ID and logging in with the alias?
    10-02-2014 09:10 PM
  24. ntice_521's Avatar
    If you have insomnia you can read the 93 threads on this topic at xbox.com (none with any solution, just a lot of "helpful suggestions" that don't work):

    Search - Xbox.com Forums

    I even contacted xbox support (this step is only recommended for masochists). They brushed me off with the usual line they give when they don't have a clue, "our servers have been having trouble lately, can you try again in a couple hours?". I've been trying for a year.
    10-03-2014 12:10 AM
  25. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    You can create the profile from your games hub
    10-03-2014 12:17 AM
  26. Rick_Air's Avatar
    If you have insomnia you can read the 93 threads on this topic at xbox.com (none with any solution, just a lot of "helpful suggestions" that don't work).
    Have you tried creating a new live account and then transferring details? As I previously asked.

    You could create a new one and at least try it to see if everything thing works and you can get a Xbox account. Then look at transferring your old purchasers etc across.

    It's a pain in the *** I know. I've had a problem in the past, Support is very helpful as long as its a simple/known fix for them. But if it's a small percentage problem which to them it isn't worth the cost of figuring out out, that's when you get the endless useless solutions.
    10-03-2014 12:35 AM

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