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  1. DJCBS's Avatar
    If we are calling lagging the resume thing, I have the HTC One M8 android for my job. As much as I like the device, its not as quick as my Lumia920 when some apps resume. Even launching apps on the HTC One M8 isn't as speedy as what happen in my Lumia 920. The app that immediately comes to mind is one called FourSquare and especially its newly made independent counterpart, Swarm. There are plenty of times when it doesn't even know where it is to do check in's. Even the Chrome browser on the M8 is at times laggy but not the resume kind of laggy. I'm talking standard android laggy.

    But how did we get from no exciting news to talking about lagging problems on phones. Man, talk about mission creep. lol.
    Often disguised isn't the same as "disguised". Both phones lag from time to time. But the "resuming" screens are a nightmare.
    I haven't experienced that sort of lagging in any Sony Z phone, so I'm assuming the problem is with HTC's Sense (and let's not enter into TouchWiz...that one is the stuff nightmares are made of).

    But yeah, back to topic =P

    _________________________________________

    I'm not surprised at the lack of news. Microsoft is more concerned (as well as they should) with Windows 10. And since they're not really into the "lets build a ton of WP devices" strategy anyway, I think it's normal that things have slowed down since Nokia left the scene.

    Everything wp is on a slow burn due to the upcoming windows 10.
    Are you implying that WP is on some sort of platform that is burning? ;P
    11-24-2014 08:34 AM
  2. ohgood's Avatar
    .... What's happening in Android that's so exciting? The Lollipop phones are still a while away.
    :/ Besides the new Broadwell computers coming up, I don't really see any big news on any platforms.
    I dunno,
    android:
    lollipop
    flagships
    updates (both apps and os)


    iPhone:
    that barely-selling-at-all iPhone 6/plus
    apps




    Microsoft:
    crickets
    Ma1dere likes this.
    11-24-2014 08:36 AM
  3. dezzilakk's Avatar
    Same here.



    Lags (often disguised as "resuming") are often on my 1020 and 930 yet I've had none whatsoever on my Z3C.
    And while the 930 doesn't last me 20 hours of moderate use, my Z3C lasts me around 2 days of heavy use. So...so much for "Android's battery drain".
    The apps UI...it depends. Some Android apps do have an ugly UI. But so do many WP apps. That's the fault of developers with poor taste, not of the OS itself.
    I've left Android's inconsistency to find even more inconsistency in WP.
    tgp, DJCBS, broar94 and 1 others like this.
    11-24-2014 10:46 AM
  4. tgp's Avatar
    I've left Android's inconsistency to find even more inconsistency in WP.
    I agree; Android is the lesser of two evils!
    11-24-2014 12:09 PM
  5. KhawarNadeem's Avatar
    I dunno,
    android:
    lollipop
    flagships
    updates (both apps and os)


    iPhone:
    that barely-selling-at-all iPhone 6/plus
    apps




    Microsoft:
    crickets
    You're kidding right? What "flagships" are these? There hasn't been an Android worth talking about since the Note 4 and even though Note 4 is fantastic, Samsung had disastrous sales this year, and are reducing their entire lineup to 30% of what it was last year. How is this 'exciting'?
    11-25-2014 08:32 AM
  6. Alij382's Avatar
    You guys keep saying that android and iOS aren't having exciting news as well, but what you keep forgetting is that they don't need to, since they're already "there".

    WP isn't on the other hand. That's why it is expected for the platform to move faster in terms of updates and news, they're not "there" yet.
    11-25-2014 08:56 AM
  7. sisqo88's Avatar
    Next week you will have news about preview for developers update 8.1 gdr 2. This week or next week vlc media player for WP. Within the next weeks news about denim roll out and and and
    See my friends my words are getting true VLC Media player for WP will be out today for beta testers. Next week it goes on with the rest ;)
    11-25-2014 12:06 PM
  8. tgp's Avatar
    There hasn't been an Android worth talking about since the Note 4
    Which was what, a month ago?
    11-25-2014 12:31 PM
  9. dezzilakk's Avatar
    Which was what, a month ago?
    And, there's a lot more devices to actually talk about than on WP's end. Nexus 6, S5, 1+1, Sony's stuff, M8, LG G3...
    11-25-2014 03:51 PM
  10. DJCBS's Avatar
    You're kidding right? What "flagships" are these? There hasn't been an Android worth talking about since the Note 4 and even though Note 4 is fantastic, Samsung had disastrous sales this year, and are reducing their entire lineup to 30% of what it was last year. How is this 'exciting'?
    Since September:
    - Moto X 2
    - Sony Xperia Z3 line
    - Nexus 6
    - Nexus 9
    - Note 4
    - And if you consider the release date, Note Edge.
    11-26-2014 08:11 AM
  11. ohgood's Avatar
    You're kidding right? What "flagships" are these? There hasn't been an Android worth talking about since the Note 4 and even though Note 4 is fantastic, Samsung had disastrous sales this year, and are reducing their entire lineup to 30% of what it was last year. How is this 'exciting'?

    i see other users have already posted references to android flagships, so i'll continue on. the number of phones and frequency of high end releases is kind of hard to dismiss.


    yes, samsung's sales are down, but sales numbers and market share usually aren't popular things to quote on WPC, so I'll let that one be too.



    now, a question: will samsung be more of a market dominator (as it is currently) by flooding 50 devices to market, or with a very precise focus of 5, from entry level to flagships the others (iphone/wp) haven't even -thought-of-yet- devices ?

    that's the exciting part. if you missed the exciting parts from iphone and android, just fire up youtube. it should be easy to find reviews, hands on, unboxings, etc

    it's fine to be a fan of one OS, but keep your eyes open, there is a lot of positive to find if you look for it :)
    KhawarNadeem likes this.
    11-26-2014 08:39 AM
  12. KhawarNadeem's Avatar
    it's fine to be a fan of one OS, but keep your eyes open, there is a lot of positive to find if you look for it :)
    Samsung's faults do not lie in their huge lineup, they lie in their software. Everyone I know who has used a Samsung Android phone have continually complained of its jitter and lag (things that have been mostly rectified in the Nexus phones). These OEM skins will be their own undoing. Samsung has become a brand so big that when people go to buy a budget phone they don't necessarily care whether it's a Galaxy Core or an A3 or what's it as long as it's Samsung and fits their budget. And then they face problems.

    I love WP; but I do like Android too. Before getting a Lumia I was a hardcore Android user. I am not bashing. I am saying that the Android space is full of the specs war, and that's all it has become lately... I don't know, maybe I am in the minority but the specs war bores me now. It was exciting when the first dualcore S2 came out with an AMOLED screen and everyone went Hallelujah, yes, but what has happened since then?

    They're just cramming as many specs as they can and it's kind of expected now that cores will double every year and camera sensors may or may not get bigger (I lol'd when I realized the S5 has about the same sized sensor as the two year old 920), screen res will double year on year, and... what then? You still can't do half of what you can do on a PC, on an Android phone or tablet.

    There was an argument about this in another thread too. Hardware is only as good as the software it runs. The Nexus 6 with all it's monstrous specs doesn't really do anything last year's S4 can't... So, I ask you again, what's so exciting?
    satrus08 and yaron zeevik like this.
    11-26-2014 09:48 AM
  13. D M C's Avatar
    Ha,
    No thread ends in this forum until we bash Android or Google or Samsung.

    Now it is done.

    Someone close this thread.
    AverageWPUser and ohgood like this.
    11-26-2014 12:08 PM
  14. Squachy's Avatar
    I dunno,
    android:
    lollipop
    flagships
    updates (both apps and os)


    iPhone:
    that barely-selling-at-all iPhone 6/plus
    apps




    Microsoft:
    crickets
    Microsoft:
    Wait for next year
    11-28-2014 12:12 AM
  15. houkoholic's Avatar
    Since September:
    - Moto X 2
    - Sony Xperia Z3 line
    - Nexus 6
    - Nexus 9
    - Note 4
    - And if you consider the release date, Note Edge.
    Both new Nexus turns out to be huge disappointments and heavily panned by the tech press. The Note Edge is also branded as gimmicky due to the hardware spec being a little TOO unique which ensures that it would not get widespread support plus limited market availability. Sony's Xperia being panned for refreshing their flagships too quickly with little actual improvements, with the only silver lining being that they are the only one left making flagship phones with a smallish screen which some prefer. I'd actually consider Android having a pretty bad last quarter in terms of news, a sign that we've probably hit a glass ceiling in smartphone hardware.
    operian likes this.
    11-28-2014 03:34 AM
  16. ohgood's Avatar
    The Note Edge ...... a little TOO unique which ensures that it would not get widespread support ....
    what does this part mean?
    11-28-2014 04:01 AM
  17. houkoholic's Avatar
    what does this part mean?
    The whole point of the Note Edge is that bit of curved off screen which nobody else has, else it's really just a Note 4. Currently Samsung walled off that bit of the screen to implement some software buttons and notification, but who else will write specifically to this hardware when 1) only Samsung makes something like this, and 2) there's even no guarantee that Samsung will continue this highly experimental configuration. Put these two together the Edge getting no widespread support for that strip of screen is all but guaranteed.
    operian likes this.
    11-28-2014 04:28 AM
  18. DJCBS's Avatar
    Both new Nexus turns out to be huge disappointments and heavily panned by the tech press. The Note Edge is also branded as gimmicky due to the hardware spec being a little TOO unique which ensures that it would not get widespread support plus limited market availability. Sony's Xperia being panned for refreshing their flagships too quickly with little actual improvements, with the only silver lining being that they are the only one left making flagship phones with a smallish screen which some prefer. I'd actually consider Android having a pretty bad last quarter in terms of news, a sign that we've probably hit a glass ceiling in smartphone hardware.
    And every single WP in the OSs life has been panned by the tech press.
    The tech press only praises the iPhones. Period. So no, you still don't have a point. There were plenty of exciting Androids since September. They just didn't had 2 year old technology and an Apple on the back.
    Last edited by DJCBS; 11-28-2014 at 05:10 PM.
    11-28-2014 02:05 PM
  19. ohgood's Avatar
    The whole point of the Note Edge is that bit of curved off screen which nobody else has, else it's really just a Note 4. Currently Samsung walled off that bit of the screen to implement some software buttons and notification, but who else will write specifically to this hardware when 1) only Samsung makes something like this, and 2) there's even no guarantee that Samsung will continue this highly experimental configuration. Put these two together the Edge getting no widespread support for that strip of screen is all but guaranteed.
    ahhh, I see, you meant "software development sPecific to that device".

    I looked at the device as more of a show of piece, a small example of what is possible with curved displays. my own inventiveness doesn't know what to do with it, so it seems gimmicky to me, like you. I'm sure someone will figure out a cool use for the next version of this type of device that will make them very rich, and us look very show on the uptake.
    11-28-2014 03:21 PM
  20. houkoholic's Avatar
    And every single WP in the OSs life has been panned by the tech press.
    The tech press only praises the iPhones. Period. So no, you still don't have a point. There were plenty of exciting Androids since September. They just didn't had 2 year old technology and an Apple on the back.
    Doesn't matter what sort of reception WP received. Speaking strictly about Android, the past few months had been pretty disappointing. Take the Nexus series, they used to get a very good geek halo effect with devices like the Nexus 4/5 and 7s, yet the reception towards the 6 and 9 is universally negative which is unprecedented. Then there's news of Lollipop encryption degrading the performance of the Nexus 6 as well as the average battery performance - again, vanilla Android build used to held up as the halo of how good Androids are without the OEM bloat and as a beacon of what Android users can expect to come, but Lollipop is off to a bit of a shaky start which again is another poor showing on Google's part since September.

    So no, I don't see plenty of "exciting" Android news since September, and I think I do have a point.
    11-29-2014 02:24 AM
  21. ohgood's Avatar
    Doesn't matter what sort of reception WP received. Speaking strictly about Android, the past few months had been pretty disappointing. Take the Nexus series, they used to get a very good geek halo effect with devices like the Nexus 4/5 and 7s, yet the reception towards the 6 and 9 is universally negative which is unprecedented. Then there's news of Lollipop encryption degrading the performance of the Nexus 6 as well as the average battery performance - again, vanilla Android build used to held up as the halo of how good Androids are without the OEM bloat and as a beacon of what Android users can expect to come, but Lollipop is off to a bit of a shaky start which again is another poor showing on Google's part since September.

    So no, I don't see plenty of "exciting" Android news since September, and I think I do have a point.
    windows phone tech reception doesn't matter, but androids does?
    11-29-2014 06:53 AM
  22. houkoholic's Avatar
    windows phone tech reception doesn't matter, but androids does?
    Answer me this - Does WP's negative reception somehow make the disappointing news of Android magically disappear? No because they are separate issues. That's the point I'm talking about when I say it doesn't matter what sort of reception WP is getting. The fact is the past few months of Android news hasn't been good, and this is doubly so when it is related to Nexus devices and vanilla Android - the two areas where Android supporters and even tech journalists (NOT fanboys) had traditionally been most interested in and very positive about, so WP also getting negative press doesn't negate this fact.
    11-29-2014 09:41 AM
  23. ohgood's Avatar
    Answer me this - Does WP's negative reception somehow make the disappointing news of Android magically disappear?

    ok, I'll just answer the question:
    no, of course not.


    it's my fault for adding a two party question earlier. that never seems to work on forums, and usually ends up with a wall of text instead of answers.
    11-29-2014 11:07 AM
  24. DJCBS's Avatar
    Doesn't matter what sort of reception WP received. Speaking strictly about Android, the past few months had been pretty disappointing. Take the Nexus series, they used to get a very good geek halo effect with devices like the Nexus 4/5 and 7s, yet the reception towards the 6 and 9 is universally negative which is unprecedented. Then there's news of Lollipop encryption degrading the performance of the Nexus 6 as well as the average battery performance - again, vanilla Android build used to held up as the halo of how good Androids are without the OEM bloat and as a beacon of what Android users can expect to come, but Lollipop is off to a bit of a shaky start which again is another poor showing on Google's part since September.

    So no, I don't see plenty of "exciting" Android news since September, and I think I do have a point.
    You don't seem to understand that YOU were disappointed. Not everyone.

    You talked about the tech press opinion. You were the one using it to justify why YOU think Android hasn't had exciting devices since September.
    You want to use tech press as a measurement for anything, then fine, we'll use it. But we'll use it for EVERYTHING. Including WP.

    Now you talk about Lollipop on the Nexus 6. And you mix everything. One moment you're talking about devices, the other you're talking about the OS.

    You don't like Android. We get it. It's FINE. We don't all have to like the same things. But just because you don't think some devices are exciting, it doesn't mean other people don't feel the same.
    Heck, I hate - and I mean HATE - Samsung deeply. And even I can admit that something like the Note Edge is pretty exciting because of what it can mean for future devices (regardless of the OS).
    The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact jams a 4.7 screen into a phone that's SMALLER and THINNER than the 920 while having flagship specs, a 20mp camera, 2 days of battery life and a IP67 rating (meaning waterPROOF and dust resistant.) How is THIS not exciting? We've been told time and time again that the better the phone the larger it has to be. Sony proves otherwise and it's not exciting?

    Let's just be honest here. You don't like Android. That's the problem that's thwarting your argument.

    If you want to discuss Lollipop, I'll discuss Lollipop: I'm NOT updating my phone to Lollipop because I simply HATE that horrible "Material Design". And I'm not in the mood to root the phone just to fix the mess Google made. Although I never really likes Windows Phone's tiles, the rest of the OS is much better designed than what Google has done with Material Design.
    D M C likes this.
    11-29-2014 01:45 PM
  25. yaron zeevik's Avatar
    Samsung's faults do not lie in their huge lineup, they lie in their software. Everyone I know who has used a Samsung Android phone have continually complained of its jitter and lag (things that have been mostly rectified in the Nexus phones). These OEM skins will be their own undoing. Samsung has become a brand so big that when people go to buy a budget phone they don't necessarily care whether it's a Galaxy Core or an A3 or what's it as long as it's Samsung and fits their budget. And then they face problems.

    I love WP; but I do like Android too. Before getting a Lumia I was a hardcore Android user. I am not bashing. I am saying that the Android space is full of the specs war, and that's all it has become lately... I don't know, maybe I am in the minority but the specs war bores me now. It was exciting when the first dualcore S2 came out with an AMOLED screen and everyone went Hallelujah, yes, but what has happened since then?

    They're just cramming as many specs as they can and it's kind of expected now that cores will double every year and camera sensors may or may not get bigger (I lol'd when I realized the S5 has about the same sized sensor as the two year old 920), screen res will double year on year, and... what then? You still can't do half of what you can do on a PC, on an Android phone or tablet.

    There was an argument about this in another thread too. Hardware is only as good as the software it runs. The Nexus 6 with all it's monstrous specs doesn't really do anything last year's S4 can't... So, I ask you again, what's so exciting?
    great response! Really like it man!
    KhawarNadeem likes this.
    11-29-2014 02:24 PM
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