12-15-2014 02:17 PM
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  1. tapehead's Avatar
    You should have tested it with a Lumia 520 or 620 (or at least browsed the Windows Phone store) rather than shell out $600 on switch. If you don't like 3rd-party apps, which is a totally valid need, you should switch to iOS or Android.
    12-14-2014 04:52 PM
  2. DennisvdG's Avatar
    I just like to know why ppl don't do research before they buy something, then complain they don't like it afterward. The most idiotic way of purchasing an item ever!
    Sadly, you just described the majority of consumers. :(
    12-14-2014 04:53 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    For Security reasons nothing more bro.
    Can you elaborate on that? If you're referring to permissions, WP doesn't ask for your dog's favorite food to gain access.
    Laura Knotek and a5cent like this.
    12-14-2014 05:00 PM
  4. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    Sadly, you just described the majority of consumers. :(
    Yes, this is true.
    12-14-2014 06:51 PM
  5. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    If security is a concern I suggest avoiding not only 3rd party apps, but 2nd party apps as well. Stick to only what comes preloaded on the device, and apps made by the OS developer. Who can say if some cool new weather app, messaging app or any other random app or game isn't just harvesting your data? You have no idea. Just be smart. Read reviews; see what else the devs have done; look at permissions, and ask why they're needed. You will miss out on a lot of great stuff not just on WP but also on Android and iOS otherwise.
    12-14-2014 07:27 PM
  6. Slovenix's Avatar
    Windows Phone needs tons of updates, more OEMs, needs to be a little more open -----> Could use 3rd party keyboards..etc.. GOOGLE support is pathetic, >big company app names< have pathetic relationship with WP.. Maybe when Windows 10 arrives that would be fixed, solely because of more users getting a WP If of course Microsoft manages to put enough sex factor to it ---------> The Look ----> That's what majority of people see before they want to get a phone.

    Anyways I think you can still be happy, those apps you lack are pointless anyways -- everyone realises that at some point ---> when your stop caring about social networks and do more in real life LOL. Snap chat, try out Skype Qik and talk your friends into it, yes that's hard.. Everyone uses snapchat around here too ----> So cheap that you're going to be more cool if you don't use it at all. Lol sorry I'm a little carried away but it's true at some point. I hate my WP for this sometimes too and then again I Love it, there's lots of apps here that no other platform owns. However I do hope that devs get on WP someday.. Win 10 or I'm switching too.. Or not.. I'm all about the camera and Android OEMs still have no manual controls, we'll see if there will be some interesting Hardware either way. Appsappsapps are the pain sometimes here. Yet I think you can be happy that you get more battery on WP version of that phone and the overall experience is smooth performance.

    I will later share some apps and features you can only get on WP when I have time.
    12-14-2014 07:28 PM
  7. Ed Boland's Avatar
    I switched to Windows Phone when the Nokia Lumia 920 came out along with the launch of WP8. Since then, I've had only Nokia Lumias; the 920, two 1020s, and now the mighty Lumia 1520. WP has come a long way since then, getting better and better with each update. I'm now at WP 8.1 Dev Preview update 1 and have no regrets at all... and I use my phone to do everything! I haven't looked back and don't miss the iPhones one bit (I had 4 generations of them). I for one, know great things are coming with Windows 10, so I'm not going anywhere! The best is yet to come.. I'd suggest sticking around!
    12-14-2014 09:00 PM
  8. shamrockhead's Avatar
    Personally I wouldn't touch an android phone, because I find android is too full of bugs, although regrettably I have a Google Nexux 7 (2013).
    I currently have a Lumia 520 which is amazing for a cheap piece of junk! It doesn't do 4g and it has a rubbish 5mega pixel camera. And the sound is rubbish during phone calls (you have to make sure you have handset on loudspeaker and not put it to your ear or risk getting deaf). However, having said all that, the WP8.1 is nice and smooth.
    Ive just bought a Lumia 930. Unfortunately, this expensive piece of rubbish is boxed up and waiting to be returned to Amazon, as its got known faults, ie phone overheats, qi charger frazzles phone, double tap to wake doesn't function properly. Apart from that the camera was pretty good.
    Even with the above comments, I still wouldn't use android phone because of too many bugs.
    As far as Apple are concerned, I wouldn't use any of their products as they took freeware software, put their own proprietary wrapper around it, and sell it in hardware for mega inflated prices. Also, as far as im concerned ITunes has killed off the music business so that the only people getting rich out of it were whatshisname of Apple and the record labels.
    WP8.1 is worth persevering with in my opinion, as I think that when the die hard Apples and Android get over themselves and realise that the manufacturers are profiting out of what was originally freeware, and try out wp8.1 they will all swallow their words.
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    12-14-2014 09:50 PM
  9. Noahma's Avatar
    I would say live with it for a longer time than a couple weeks. Switching platforms can be jarring. I was on the fence on switching back to what I knew (former IPhone user) and sticking with the platform for a month or so before I just decided that I really really like Windows phone. Everything about it fits me well. There were a few apps that I missed for a bit that either have now come to Windows phone (flipboard) or I forgot about, I actually prefer Weave to flipboard, and have not really touched flipboard much since it was released. Are there games I wish were on our platform? well sometimes, they would be nice. I also know Android wen through similar experiences when it decided to go against IOS. Things will improve, and they HAVE improved immensely. I REALLY enjoy the platform as a whole, the connectivity and smoothness of the entire platform (windows, windows phone, web etc.)

    The community as a whole is very friendly and inviting. There is frustration right now due to the yearly (yes, this exact same scenario played out last year) where you get a group of people frustrated with the speed, lack of speed, certain apps not there, certain features there, or not there or whatever and they voice their frustrations very vocally. The frustration will settle over the next month and the enthusiasm will return.
    12-14-2014 11:43 PM
  10. MrElectrifyer's Avatar
    Hahaha, thanks for even more heads up.

    I could never consider buying a WP 'cause at first galnce, it's just fugly and there's no option to change the system wide layout of the OS. The app gap, that's an even bigger headache. I was using iPhones up till the 4s, then iOS 7 become yet another fugly experience with no option to get rid of it. I then decided to give Android a shot on the OnePlus One; versatile and smooth experience in the palm of my hand.

    Makes a much better companion to my Surface Pro 2 than I could imagine a Windows Phone doing...
    12-15-2014 12:52 AM
  11. EBUK's Avatar
    For Security reasons nothing more bro.
    Morning, Hexacore.

    Windows Phone is much more secure than Android or iOS. All apps are run in a 'sandbox' so are unable to do nasty things to the system. So if you're concerned about malware infections, you can breath easy.

    If it's tracking, data harvesting, and general 'spying', there is a feature to report concerns to MS about the app (on the app's page on the Windows Store.) If the app was suspected of being malign in some way, MS would do something about it.

    I appreciate that the app gapp is a concern for you, especially with respect to the social network apps, but do give the 3rd party apps a go. If you don't like or trust them, remove them. It only takes a few seconds. The gap with lesser known apps (such as those from retailers), well, we just have t learn to live with that, I'm afraid.

    Switching platforms can be jarring
    Agree. It took me a while to get to grips with my L735, but having used it for a few weeks, when I revisit Android, I find it a disjointed experience. Only the Settings in WP are in need of a nip and tuck; everything else is well thought out.
    12-15-2014 01:34 AM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    For Security reasons nothing more bro.
    Thanks everyone for your opinions, i really value them and especially Ian who made me feel welcome on my first day in the Windows Forums.
    I'm not giving up just yet, what i'm gonna do is wait until Windows 10 is released maybe everything will get sorted out.
    You mentioned Snapchat as an app you wanted in one of your earlier posts. I don't use Snapchat (official or 3rd-party) and won't ever use it, since I have concerns about its privacy and security. The FTC also has concerns. This Wikipedia article has a good summary of the issues with Snapchat.
    12-15-2014 01:49 AM
  13. tanya shah1's Avatar
    Hi Hexacore, you're welcome. I've became tired of flame wars, so I decided to try a different way. It's nice to know it's appreciated. :)

    Have you updated to the latest Facebook app ( This might solve your issue, if not then tell uncle Ian.

    The You Tube situation is down to Google, who claim that the Windows Phone user base is too small to warrant them developing an app. That they'd say this when there's something like 100,000,000 WP users out there really shows how knobbish Google is to both their competition and their own users who dare to use something else. this goes some way to explain why Google is pretty much a dirty word around here. I personally advise everyone to stop using Google services and delete their Google accounts, but I'm sure most won't and I enjoy access to You Tube as much as everyone else. I use MyTube, which I've found fits my needs and is very good quality.

    I don't use Snapchat or Instagram myself, but there is a developer called Rudy Hyun who writes excellent apps that usually have a 6 in the title. I know he does 6snap for Snapchat and 6tag for Instagram. I do recommend this developer, he has a very good reputation and I use his CloudSix for Dropbox client. Incidentally, you can use the search box in the top right to find apps for any specific need.

    I'm sure we can make you a lot happier with your device, so that you won't want to go back. :)
    this post!!!!! very true
    this post should be made a sticky so any further ranters can read this
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    12-15-2014 03:28 AM
  14. taymur's Avatar
    A vast majority of the world will not read up on the electronics they buy. Probably 90% or more.
    those 90% wont feel the app gap, as they are most probably using the 90% of the apps that an average user need. since we are on the topic of statistics.
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    12-15-2014 03:50 AM
  15. The_Vermonster's Avatar
    GOOGLE support is pathetic,
    I hope you understand that this has nothing to do with MS or the OS. Google is afraid of WP, and pissed that MS makes more off Android than they do. Google products worked fine on WP7 until Google went out of their way to block them.
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    12-15-2014 06:16 AM
  16. princeegli's Avatar
    Good posts ......ide like to add....I have noticed in the last few months that Microsoft is really serious about making WP a real success and are not only encouraging Devs to make apps....but are helping us too
    sinime likes this.
    12-15-2014 06:35 AM
  17. Slovenix's Avatar
    I hope you understand that this has nothing to do with MS or the OS. Google is afraid of WP, and pissed that MS makes more off Android than they do. Google products worked fine on WP7 until Google went out of their way to block them.
    Of course lol :)
    12-15-2014 06:57 AM
  18. Giddora's Avatar
    For Security reasons nothing more bro.
    Thanks everyone for your opinions, i really value them and especially Ian who made me feel welcome on my first day in the Windows Forums.
    I'm not giving up just yet, what i'm gonna do is wait until Windows 10 is released maybe everything will get sorted out.
    Keep us posted with questions and thoughts about WP and the ecosystem. :) It's different from Android in that we rely more on third-party apps, and I understand that you might be "scared" to use third-party apps, but... Ask around and you'll see that the third-party apps we have are very secure. :)
    12-15-2014 08:06 AM
  19. bitStorm's Avatar
    I can understand how you feel, and I still get frustrated by the app gap at times. Remember, though, that the same issue existed for android users not too long ago. For me though, I'm not a heavy app user. Other than games, I would say that the only apps I use consistently are Facebook, OfficeLens and my bank app.... Most everything else I do is with the native system. Cortana, for me, is extremely helpful and has several times kept me from being late for appointments by reminding me when its time to leave if I want to make it on time. I would say also say that the interface, while it can't be personalized to the extent of an android system, just works and is very intuitive... I can get around much, much quicker on my windows phone then I ever could on android. In fact, I was given a very nice android phone a few weeks ago and figured I would try it again, hoping to get access to some apps I would truly like to have, but I couldn't take it... I think I used the phone for about 2 hours before putting the sim back in my 8x.

    So, I think my best advice is to just use the phone and get to know it. I think that the more you do the more you'll come to appreciate the system and those 'missing' apps will seem much less important
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    12-15-2014 08:29 AM
  20. threewulfmoon's Avatar
    I recently switched from an iPhone 5c to the Lumina 1520 and while I do miss a few of the apps I used often, like Amazon Music, I am mostly satisfied with my decision to switch. My Lumina 1520 is a wonderful piece of kit--large beautiful screen and the camera is out of this world good. In my opinion, Windows Phone as an operating system is better than Android (or at least the last version of Android I used) and is every bit as good as iOS. It's the lack of and the lesser quality of 3rd party apps that is holding the platform back. I love having tiles that corral everything my wife or my boss sends me, which makes keeping track of information from VIPs much easier. I love Cortana's integration with my Bluetooth headset. She reads me incoming texts and gives me a choice to respond or ignore. I love the degree of customization that I have with the Live Tiles. And I can't wait to get the Band that I think is under the Christmas tree and see how it integrates with my 1520.

    About a week ago, I posted that my satisfaction level was an 8. I'd say that it has increased a bit since then. Do I miss my iPhone? Sometimes. But if I were to switch away from the 1520 and go back to iOS, there are elements of the device and of WP that I would miss as well. So I'd say that's a good thing overall. I think that Windows Phone has a tremendous amount of potential, so I would advise you to hang in there, but I could completely understand if you wish to go back. Good luck!
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    12-15-2014 09:07 AM
  21. steve_w_7's Avatar
    what i'm gonna do is wait until Windows 10 is released maybe everything will get sorted out.
    LOL. Congratulations - You've just become one of us. That is the Windows Phone users' mantra: "wait until next year...".
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    12-15-2014 10:42 AM
  22. Ltauhmise's Avatar
    Hello WP community.
    I'm here to share with you my story, which revolves around switching from android to windows 8.1.
    When i first heard of windows phone i googled it right way and what i saw was a clean and smooth OS and very polished interface, so i was very impressed and i had the urge to switch from LAGdroid to WP and so i did.
    I loved it very much at first but after one month of using it, i started to regretting it.
    I couldn't find apps i use daily on other platforms,even worse the ones tha does exist are super inferior in quality and features compared to their counterparts.
    This has driven me crazy as i spent 600$ to get the HTC one for windows.
    This is the last time i buy windows phone,
    Shame on microsoft and the devs, instagram still BETA after a year really?
    I see no future at all for this platform.
    Windows Phone is the most stable, reliable mobile operating system platform on the market. That being said, it isn't for everyone. I've always likened Windows Phone OS as something the enterprise or business community benefits from. Being of that segment, I can say that the integrated onedrive, MS suite, and Skype has been an integral part of my day-to-day work flow. The user interface is sleek and the applications on the market generally don't have as much bloatware as their android or ios counterparts.

    Yes, the selection is smaller~ and that can be a deal breaker for some. For others, the reliability of the software/hardware, the interface, and general "experience" of the platform makes up for that shortcoming.

    Sorry to see you leave. But windows phone, at least in my opinion, is one of the best investments Microsoft has ever made. Let apple keep their fanboys, and let google cater to people that tinker with their phone's internal software and ever-present malware threats.
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    12-15-2014 12:13 PM
  23. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Well Hexcare, I get it that some versions of apps aren't 100% up to date with Androne or MePhone versions - but what I have always liked with WP is how well whatever versions of the apps run on my phone. I'm also big into the user interface of the phone. Hey, I and others bought these things 3-4 years ago when "app gap" was a huge understatement - and you know I still liked it better. My 2 cents - live with it a few months and if you're still not happy, it's possible Sail Fish will be out - which will give you back all of your android apps and give you a much cleaner system!
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    12-15-2014 12:26 PM
  24. ratsttam's Avatar
    NOW, that's FUNNY, I dare you to try that !
    I would almost guarantee that would be the last time you "walk", ever...
    12-15-2014 01:31 PM
  25. metalchick719's Avatar
    The "app gap" complaint/argument is so old at this point. Do people not realize that there are now 500,000 apps in the Windows Phone Store and that mostly all of the biggies are there??? So what if something like Instagram is called "beta" on WP? It's there and it's fully functional. Stop kvetching and either stick with Windows Phone or give up your device and let someone else who enjoys the platform buy it.

    Personally, I've been using Windows Phone for over 2 years now and have never complained about not having an app that I need. Everything I've ever needed has been available. If there isn't an official one, there are always great third party alternatives.
    tanya shah1 and prasath1234 like this.
    12-15-2014 01:38 PM
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