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12-18-2014 07:10 PM
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  1. slytigergaming's Avatar
    Time and time again I read forum posts here slamming their horrible experience with WinMo and why they can't wait to switch back and how they feel let down by Microsoft / Nokia despite those companies making no explicit promises for you to be let down by.

    So I thought if they can make countless threads slamming WinMo, I can make one talking about the opposite because just like the rest those guys my existence is only validated by how many people read this, oh and I think I have a different POV.

    So straight off the bat, I'm a tech enthusiast, I treat technology like it's a combination of the two games Pokemon and Online Poker. How much can I buy before all the credit companies in New Zealand shut me down due to lack of funds. It's what makes me, me and that is a large reason for switching over.

    Now for me, I knew my time with Android was up. I had been with it since 2009 and i was no longer interested in what the newest version was doing, much like a parent who doesn't care what their kid does in college, just cares about the fact it's leaving home. It was a toss up between Ubuntu OS, Blackberry and WinMo. I was very nearly about to go the Ubuntu way as they were originally going to launch in England this December while I was visiting family but instead they have pushed the launch back meaning It would be difficult for me to get one. In regards to BB, I had owned one before and wasn't interested in the emphasis on BB chat and that stuff, so WinMo caught my eye. More importantly I liked what I had been hearing about the Nokia 930 (my now current device.)

    So with my mind made up I did what it seems none of the complainers did and I did a bit of research. I checked to see that my essential apps where present on WinMo. It makes me laugh that, these whiners have the ability to post on a forum but not google / bing around to make sure WinMo has exactly what they want. So once I had checked that WinMo had what I wanted I called the bank, got my credit extended more, called an escort service, applied for a secondary income and then went and bought the phone.

    Now here's why I like WinMo. One, I get to be an early adopter again, It was awesome owning a first gen Android, watching the platform grow, supporting devs so I want to do it again. Two, a different navigational feel, on android their was only so many ways you could theme your home page before it became either a labour of love or something you didn't do. Believe it or not, NOT having so much customization actually makes for a better user experience IMO. Three, the app challenge, now this is a lot more close to home than the others. I want to learn to make apps, Now if given a choice between three app markets, two of which gross over a million apps, and one is at the 300,00 mark, where would you want to try your first rodeo? See WinMo and it's infrastructure, I feel, is a great place for me to try my hand in the app game. Four, new ecosystem, it feels good to experience the 'big picture' in a different taste, after four years using all the google products it feels good to change my habits for Skydrive, Onenote, etc, now my phone talks to my Xbox and thats cool.

    Yes I think I'm a special snow flake but this forum really needs less whinging about a platform that is only going to grow by actually having people on it. So let me know what draws you to the platform and let's just be all around excited about what we've got here because their is no time limit on the smartphone race. MS has the finances to sustain WinMo for a while and in 5 years time we may be big enough for the 'app gap' to not be such a easy target, hey if you hate it so much, go make one yourself!, nah just kidding app dev is hard.

    12-15-2014 12:26 AM
  2. David Van Ryn's Avatar
    Hi slytigergaming,

    Loved reading this, the positivity thread has been approved!

    I got drawn into WinMo/Wp by using a friends phone for 10 minutes, after using android with HTC, Samsung, Sony and LG devices for a while i really got bored with the look and feel of android. Mostly got tired of the shell's that the manufacturer's put over the OS. And like u i believe i got tired of endlessly trying to customize it and make it feel current or pleasing to the eye, don't really know why but i also kept messing with it.
    Having an android phone felt like the first 60 minutes with every new device/platform. After the euphoria of having "new stuff" the "setting it up" start's, fiddling around and browsing true every menu u can find, to mentally and physically know/own that particular device. (i hope this makes sense lol)
    Well with my android phones, it always felt like i was setting it up, and never got the feeling i nailed it.

    I was pleasantly surprised by the fluidness and the lack of lag when switching between app's and back to home screen, the whole look n feel was a welcome change of scenery and so i made the jump. The same 60 minutes as usual,..ok here we go :-) setting it up, and boom!
    Windows Phone 8 in all it's gracious glory letting me flow majestically true the OS, making me feel like i'm in Smartphone heaven, life is good :-)

    Well now a good 2 years into that and even despite the few minor hick-up's, I still feel that way about it, and i am anxiously awaiting the next move Microsoft will make to further improve on an already exiting and easy to use platform.

    Good times are ahead indeed! Positivity rules!

    Thumbs up and thanks for the smile i had while reading this ;-)
    12-15-2014 01:13 AM
  3. slytigergaming's Avatar
    Cheers David, tis the laughing season!
    12-15-2014 01:15 AM
  4. Vospier's Avatar
    Hopefully we'll see MS sort out the availability issue of their flagships. A new model is indeed due.

    WP8.1 on my 920 meets my needs and I'm looking forward to Denim and WP10 on the software side.

    Hardware-wise, I'm really hoping MS do more to differentiate their product, so MWC 2015 will be important.

    But mostly, I think MS needs to come back to adopters and show their dedication to the platform - they've been awfully quiet recently... in a bad way.
    12-15-2014 02:15 AM
  5. badcat's Avatar
    slytigergaming, first of all, thanks for taking things in a positive direction!

    Like you, I got pulled into WP by just playing around with one. I was in a Verizon store checking out what was available because my upgrade was approaching. I was there to look at some of the newer Androids. While waiting for a rep I started playing around with a couple of Windows Phones (back when Verizon actually had a kiosk for WP in a store) and was hooked. I also did a bit of research and decided I was going to have to do some preparation, like migrate my email over from Gmail to Outlook. While I knew I really didn't have to do this, I wanted to get off of Gmail and I assumed the WP experience would be better using And that seems to have been right move.

    I ended up getting a Lumia 822. Overall, I have been happy on this platform and phone. No, it's not perfect but no other ecosystem (WinMo, BB and Android) I've used has been either. My initial disappointments were few and minor in nature. No ability to sync IE bookmarks (which has been fixed in 8.1) some minor gripes about the email client. The lack of a file picker to add attachments is a curiosity.

    The "app gap" has never been an issue for me because I don't care about or use the flavor of the week social networking apps like, Insta-face-snap-whats-a-gram and the like. Even when I used Android I never loaded up my phone with apps. There are only a couple of apps I miss from Android and I'm getting by without them.

    My only real disappointment now lies with Verizon. As a carrier they aren't giving WP users any reason to stick with them. Their complete lack of support (no Cyan update) and lack of new handsets tells me they just aren't interested. So when my contract is up, off I go, probably to AT&T to pick up an 830.

    Maybe I don't get some of the gripes about WP because I'm not a heavy user. My phone is a tool, not a lifestyle choice. But in any case I'm still satisfied and will stick with WP when I upgrade.
    Last edited by badcat; 12-15-2014 at 05:48 PM.
    12-15-2014 03:42 AM
  6. slytigergaming's Avatar
    Different strikes for different folks... Very good
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    12-15-2014 03:26 PM
  7. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Most definitely satisfied with mine.

    Even put together a huge write-up detailing how a (former) Android diehard just goes Windows Phone and everything about it that made me stay.

    What made an Android Diehard Become a Full-Time Windows Phone Guy?
    Last edited by TLRtheory; 12-15-2014 at 03:53 PM.
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    12-15-2014 03:32 PM
  8. DavstarApps's Avatar
    Windows Phone has come a very long way in the last year, or 2 years. As a developer (and purely one for Windows platforms right now) who is keeping on top of all the changes they are making, they do seem to be doing quite a bit to make our lives easier. Universal apps are awesome. I can't wait to see what the changes will be for Windows 10.
    12-15-2014 08:09 PM
  9. D M C's Avatar
    A positivity thread including negativity towards Android. Interesting...

    I wonder if it's possible to only focus on WP positivity without including any other OS.....or may be not
    12-15-2014 08:20 PM
  10. theefman's Avatar
    A positivity thread including negativity towards Android. Interesting...

    I wonder if it's possible to only focus on WP positivity without including any other OS.....or may be not

    There must be balance to The Force......
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    12-15-2014 08:25 PM
  11. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    Well, Windows Phone is very sexy, it's clean, it's fast, and it just looks soooo modern, I love it. Windows Phone has Halo! And we're now getting awesome stuff like Minecraft Pocket Edition :) I see Windows Phones almost everywhere I go now, which is great, even if it's just the low-ends mostly (I have seen a couple mid-range to high-ends).
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    12-15-2014 08:26 PM
  12. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    A positivity thread including negativity towards Android. Interesting...

    I wonder if it's possible to only focus on WP positivity without including any other OS.....or may be not
    Didn't seem too negative toward Android to me, it was mostly just saying they were tired of it.
    12-15-2014 08:27 PM
  13. boltman2013's Avatar
    Android is janky...I know as my family that's what they have. Quirky stuff that just works on WP
    12-15-2014 08:30 PM
  14. b23h's Avatar
    DOOMED doomed DoOmEd

    oh, sorry the positivity thread.

    All joking aside I love Windows Phone and my Red 920 on AT&T. I had a crappy Samsung android phone on Virgin that drove me NUTS, it was crashing and all sorts of sh*t. Then I got a android Motorola on Virgin that was quite a bit better. I'd love to see a Windows Phone Motorola...

    Because my experience with that Froyo era Samsung was so hideous and because I'm a Microsoft boy anyway I was really curious about Windows Phone. When it became apparent that Virgin was unlikely to get a Windows Phone I jumped ship to T-Mobile and got a HTC HD7. What a sweet phone... I've never had the crashes and instability with Windows Phone that I did with that Samsung Android. From the HTC HD7 I grabbed a Lumia 810 but saw the writing on the wall and gave it back under the Washington State Attorney General case. Then I got a HTC 8x, still on T-Mobile. Given T-Mobile was working my nerve with their incessant cancellation and lame support of Windows Phone, I jumped ship to AT&T for a Red 920. I love that Red 920 and would like to give a wet sloppy kiss to AT&T for supporting it for close to two years. If they end up pushing Denim to it I'll be ecstatic.

    I have the vast majority of apps that I care about on Windows Phone with a couple of exceptions like apps for REI and my REI Visa card. I'm sure I can list a couple more, but by-in-large I have what I need and don't care too much about what I don't have. I have a Windows Home Server running a program called Lights Out which allows my WP device to wake my server remotely then I can log in with my first party WHS server app and play any album I own (for some reason it's not working for the last couple of weeks, the music will start then stutter and stop entirely). I'll have to put some time into troubleshooting that.

    Overall I love WP and my Red 920. I am looking forward to continued progress with the OS and apps and am really hoping that MS get's off the pot and delivers a new 5 inch display flagship with a SD Card Slot and Glance in the next couple of months....
    12-15-2014 08:44 PM
  15. b23h's Avatar
    The original poster said that he was tired of posts talking about how let down people were about WP/Microsoft/Noka/the app gap etc. He never specified that one cannot talk about their experience with other OS's. Windows Phone does not exist in a vacuum and is in fact the third smallest OS, significantly behind the other two. If we are on Windows Phone we are here for a reason and likely came from another OS. Just as many people who leave WP for another OS do so because of their experiences with both OS's. In like fashion when we talk about Windows Phone we will likely mention our experiences with the other OS's we have used.

    Your criteria to not talk about other OS's is fairly unnatural and unnecessary. Windows Phone does not exist in a vacuum and we do not need to pretend it does. We are reminded all the time that we are a tiny minnow in a big pond...
    12-15-2014 09:50 PM
  16. matt john2's Avatar
    i think its the perfect mobile os for me even though i have ios and android devices, the only thing that lacks are the quality of the apps ( I dont really care about app gap, thats why i got iphone) and sometimes the functionality( also why i have my z3). I would love to see microsoft focus on hardwares and make it better, just like what sony is doing in their releases, i would love to see headphone DAC/amp, fingerprint scanner, water sealing/proofing and front facing speaker on new gen windows phones.
    12-15-2014 09:52 PM
  17. Jabid21's Avatar
    As much as we try to stay positive; Microsoft isn't helping. Let's play a game called spot the Windows Phone


    Source: The best of MSN on any device. Google it and find the top result. Can't post links yet. LOL
    12-16-2014 02:49 AM
  18. badcat's Avatar
    A positivity thread including negativity towards Android. Interesting...

    I wonder if it's possible to only focus on WP positivity without including any other OS.....or may be not
    I don't see where I said anything negative about Android. I've had a bunch of Android phones and while I wasn't thrilled with my last one, it was primarily because I chose a poor phone. I don't have any beef with the OS in general.
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    12-16-2014 03:35 AM
  19. David Van Ryn's Avatar
    No negativity, simply reality and experiences are being discussed for as far as i can see :-)
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    12-16-2014 06:22 AM
  20. rhapdog's Avatar
    Love my WP!

    My previous "smart phone" was Windows Mobile 5.0. Got it in 2006, I believe, and still own it. Needed to upgrade because Windows Mobile 5.0 just doesn't sync with my more modern Windows 8.1 laptop too well. Plus, I decided to get a phone with 4G capability so I could switch my Internet to 4G and get rid of the land-line cable coming to the house. Now my internet follows me everywhere I go with my phone and laptop. I finally upgraded to a Lumia 520 for $40 back in July 2014. Imagine 8 years with the same phone, and it still looks and works like new. Went through 4 batteries, have a new one in it now, and my wife and I still use it as a PDA to do our grocery shopping and a few other things that just aren't as good on any modern platform. No shopping program on iPhone, Android, or WP comes close to what was available on WinMo 5.0. It also had better working versions of Excel, Word, Powerpoint, etc.

    I absolutely love universal apps and having a unified experience between my phone, tablet, and laptop. Awesome. Bookmarks and notes in my Bible automatically show up on all my devices, and that's really cool. Bookmarks and history in my browser show up in all my devices, and I love that as well.

    I can't really bash too much on Android or iPhone, other than saying I checked them out while researching phone OSes before deciding on what I want, and after tinkering with my sister-in-laws iPhone for a week, and tinkering with my brother-in-laws Galaxy S4, I just didn't care for the interfaces on those devices. Apps weren't really an issue for me, as they all had the apps that I would be using, but Cortana works more the way I work more so than Siri, because I need the location based reminders, which Siri can't do. Geofencing was a big selling point for me.

    It didn't take a lot for me to decide on WP. It was every bit as beautifully designed as the Windows 8.1 I had already fallen in love with. Hated Windows 8.0, but love 8.1. Now that I have a touchscreen laptop, I love it even more. I bought the 520 on budget because it gave me the extra cash I wanted to go out and buy a new high-end 15.6" touch screen laptop and a tablet. Glad I did. Saved enough to buy the wife a new laptop as well.

    Even my wife likes my Windows Phone, and she always states that she does NOT want a smart phone. She hates seeing people always glued to their smart phones and unable to interact with people in person. She does borrow mine from time to time, but she has a simple feature phone and refuses to upgrade to a smart phone. I just let her know if she ever wants one to let me know and I'll get it. Her move now. I can guarantee by her reactions to the different phones, though, that if she ever gets one it is going to be a Windows Phone, because she despises the iPhone interface when she has used her sister's phone, and she hates the Android as well. She actually enjoys using my WP, and I've got the rock-bottom phone in the WP lineup.

    Nice to see a positive thread. I was just about ready to stop reading posts here for a while due to all the whiners. Thanks for the thread.
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    12-16-2014 09:22 AM
  21. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    A positivity thread including negativity towards Android. Interesting...
    I agree. No need to state the obvious that WP is better than Android. ;)
    12-16-2014 10:14 AM
  22. trev81uk's Avatar
    Ah, a nice positivity thread.

    I'll be the first to admit (search my post history) I've been negative towards WP on several occasions, but I've stuck with it and I'm so glad that I have. No negativity towards other OS's (I have it, but I'll not post it here), I've just seen a marked improvement lately on what's happening on this platform in terms of improvements and future prospects, and I know that although they've been on other OS's for a while, but finally getting apps like BBC Sport, Candy Crush Saga (and SnapChat coming soon) along with what seems to be increasing improvements to apps such as Facebook make a big difference to those looking at taking on a Windows Phone but are worried about the app gap.

    Also, here in the UK, I've noticed a huge increase in WP advertising in places such as billboards, bus shelters, and very importantly TV, but also an increase in carriers who are placing WP deals on their home page and shop frontage.

    I'll be sticking with WP for the very long foreseeable future, my next phone is a 930... looking forward to that... and then Windows 10!
    12-18-2014 02:26 PM
  23. rhapdog's Avatar
    Just had to stop by this thread again. Haven't gotten the Denim update for my phone yet. Not complaining, because I'm excited it's finally being rolled out!

    That's good news for us all. Denim and Windows 8.1 Update will make a lot of great improvements for many of us and is bound to make the platform a more solid choice for many.

    Looking forward to the day (very soon, it appears) when I'll get to start playing with those new features myself.
    12-18-2014 03:43 PM
  24. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    Just had to stop by this thread again. Haven't gotten the Denim update for my phone yet. Not complaining, because I'm excited it's finally being rolled out!

    That's good news for us all. Denim and Windows 8.1 Update will make a lot of great improvements for many of us and is bound to make the platform a more solid choice for many.

    Looking forward to the day (very soon, it appears) when I'll get to start playing with those new features myself.
    For the average user, the only real improvement in Denim is the live folders. But yes, live folders are very important, and I'm so glad they added them. My start screen is so much more organized with the folders (Dev Preview on Lumia 820). My brother with his Lumia 635 is looking forward to having live folders.
    12-18-2014 04:02 PM
  25. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    For the average user, the only real improvement in Denim is the live folders
    I don't care about Live Folders. I want Oh Cortana and 4k video for my 1520.
    12-18-2014 04:46 PM
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