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  1. UchilHasmit's Avatar
    12-23-2014 11:13 AM
  2. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    By the way, don't badger Windows Central about this. They aren't going to publish anything about it:
    Petitions do not work.

    Snapchat knows about the tiny Windows Phone market share, which is why they are not making an app. Now, you want to have a petition of that tiny market share make their voices heard. It does not add up.

    A percentage of a tiny percentage is even a smaller percentage. Snapchat knows Windows Phone users want an app. They know about 6snap and other third-party clients. Currently, they do not care, plain and simple, and no petition is going to change that.

    What will change that? When more people buy Windows Phones.

    Daniel Rubino
    Last edited by a5cent; 12-23-2014 at 11:48 AM. Reason: formatting only
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    12-23-2014 11:38 AM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    ...Them asking me to change platforms is no more ridiculous than me asking them to change to a Snapchat alternative. Besides Snapchat, there are probably other apps that I would have complained about missing.
    You would not necessarily have to get a new phone to switch to an Alternate Service.

    ​You almost certainly would to get a new OS.
    12-23-2014 11:56 AM
  4. Wolfjt's Avatar
    Is there some link to verify that figure?

    I find it hard to believe that all these indie types are spending even 1/10th of that ($10,000) to get an App made and published, including valuing their time at $25 an hour.
    __________

    Reprinted from another thread...

    That's a fair question. But the articles are out there. I would paste a link but I don't have enough post so this forum won't let me. Suffice it to say, the major apps from the pros are in the range of 100 to 150 grand. Obviously the small apps don't have that cost.
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    12-23-2014 12:17 PM
  5. rhapdog's Avatar
    Out of the user base that snapchat already has, that Thunderclap has a goal of 500 supporters, and so far only 180 supporters. Exactly how much would they care about 500 people with over 26 million users already? As a business, I would concentrate on the larger market share.

    As a retired computer programmer, if I decide to start developing apps for mobile devices, it will be for the Windows platform, simply because it's what I like and I'm not worried about big profit, since I've already retired and am comfortable. If I needed to earn my living from it, I would target Android/iOS, then port to Windows afterward. If I were making a comfortable living from the Android/iOS markets I would really have to consider if the amount of profit compared to the amount of work involved in the port would be worth the extra effort and be a quality payback for my expenditures and time in making the port.

    I understand where they are coming from on "no WP support" at this time. That doesn't mean I agree with it, but it makes me feel better about letting my children one day use WP if WP never gets it.
    12-23-2014 12:37 PM
  6. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    It's not limited to 500 people :P and there are still 8 out of 10 days left.
    Also, the point of that, is that 54 030 (for the moment) will see that message (including this website: Snapchat On Windows Phone ) in their twitter/facebook feed. Anyway, nothing to loose.
    12-23-2014 12:40 PM
  7. RumoredNow's Avatar
    That's a fair question. But the articles are out there. I would paste a link but I don't have enough post so this forum won't let me. Suffice it to say, the major apps from the pros are in the range of 100 to 150 grand. Obviously the small apps don't have that cost.
    Interesting... I did just go through this calculator (How Much to Make an App) and picked the most expensive options... $90,900.
    How Much to Make an App

    However, when I chose: 1 paltform, no social media log-in linking, personal profiles, free app, post reviews, connect to website, stock appearance, don't need a designed icon... $27,600.
    How Much to Make an App

    I assume SnapChat has an icon, only needs to develop for WP, won't link other social media accounts, is free to install and use and has no design frills in the UI... That makes the cost more reasonable. People can run the configurations for themselves. Most of the groundwork already being done on iOS and Android Apps certainly pares the cost down.
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    12-23-2014 12:54 PM
  8. UchilHasmit's Avatar
    I understand where they are coming from on "no WP support" at this time. That doesn't mean I agree with it, but it makes me feel better about letting my children one day use WP if WP never gets it.
    Agreed.. This is not an app we should be petitioning for.. We lack many more useful apps. But this is a popular app n I'm scared that my beloved platform loses potential adopters due to this stupid app :( ...
    12-23-2014 01:04 PM
  9. hexacore's Avatar
    Done!
    can we please make a similar thing for Instagram.
    the way they ignore us it's unacceptable.
    12-23-2014 01:16 PM
  10. sleeve22's Avatar
    I just signed but have no plan to use the app. I would install it just because though.
    12-23-2014 01:20 PM
  11. rhapdog's Avatar
    Actually, I wouldn't worry about the beloved platform losing potential adopters due to this stupid app, as you put it. Since most snapchat users are teenagers, and since it's mostly parents that buy the phones for those teenagers, we just need to educate the parents on the dangers of snapchat, and let them know they can't use it on Windows Phone, and parents will be lining up to purchase Windows Phones for their teens and just not give the poor kids a choice. Then teach the parents about other features where the kids can't use the phone to buy apps without the parents password, etc.

    Parents would love that. Probably enough to switch the whole family once the exposure starts hitting.
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    12-23-2014 01:21 PM
  12. tgp's Avatar
    You would not necessarily have to get a new phone to switch to an Alternate Service.

    ​You almost certainly would to get a new OS.
    Yes that's true. But still, it's only 1 person that is inconvenienced vs. 29. And besides, each of my 29 friends has a lot of other friends. For them to change would cause a cascading effect. It's just not practical.

    I make the choice to use a poorly supported platform, or unsupported in this case. I must live with the consequences. I should not ask my friends to adapt. It makes more sense for me to adapt to them if I want to be included.

    For me, this is a hypothetical situation. I use WP, but not as my primary device. I'm multi-platform. I'm just imagining a possible real-world scenario.
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    12-23-2014 01:55 PM
  13. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    Actually, I wouldn't worry about the beloved platform losing potential adopters due to this stupid app, as you put it. Since most snapchat users are teenagers, and since it's mostly parents that buy the phones for those teenagers, we just need to educate the parents on the dangers of snapchat, and let them know they can't use it on Windows Phone, and parents will be lining up to purchase Windows Phones for their teens and just not give the poor kids a choice. Then teach the parents about other features where the kids can't use the phone to buy apps without the parents password, etc.

    Parents would love that. Probably enough to switch the whole family once the exposure starts hitting.
    Yeah, but kids would hate that. I'm 15, so I still consider I am, and needing a password to download apps would make me go insane. I would hate Windows Phone (and then would never approach the Platform when I could actually get a wp from my own will). Plus, everyone says that snapchat is really dangerous, but when I could still have it (before 6snap was pulled), I used it for perfectely honest stuff, and I don't know anyone that used it for "unsafe" stuff. So sure, there will be mentally unstable child porn lovers that use it, but you find those kind of assholes everywhere. Instead of stopping people of using Snapchat, you'd be better of educating teens not to send nude pictures via snapchat.
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    12-23-2014 02:14 PM
  14. BlackSheriff84's Avatar
    Donr
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    12-23-2014 02:17 PM
  15. panchovx's Avatar
    Over 5000 sings. We need to keep this thing going on.
    UchilHasmit likes this.
    12-23-2014 03:25 PM
  16. Jens2sig's Avatar
    Done
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    12-23-2014 07:17 PM
  17. Marquis de Faux's Avatar
    Just shared to several Google+ communities.
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    12-23-2014 08:11 PM
  18. Marquis de Faux's Avatar
    Just shared the petition to several Google+ Windows Phone/Microsoft communities.
    12-23-2014 08:14 PM
  19. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Just shared to several Google+ communities.
    Ha! Textbook irony?
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    12-23-2014 08:15 PM
  20. UchilHasmit's Avatar
    Actually, I wouldn't worry about the beloved platform losing potential adopters due to this stupid app, as you put it. Since most snapchat users are teenagers, and since it's mostly parents that buy the phones for those teenagers, we just need to educate the parents on the dangers of snapchat, and let them know they can't use it on Windows Phone, and parents will be lining up to purchase Windows Phones for their teens and just not give the poor kids a choice. Then teach the parents about other features where the kids can't use the phone to buy apps without the parents password, etc.

    Parents would love that. Probably enough to switch the whole family once the exposure starts hitting.
    But I believe that this app not being there would further strengthen the arguments of those saying that the platform has absolutely no apps. And parents are only the sponsors .. Final decision always rests with the teens.
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    12-23-2014 10:49 PM
  21. jomarr's Avatar
    By the way, don't badger Windows Central about this. They aren't going to publish anything about it:
    I agree that they wont publish anything about it BUT I don't agree that they don't care. If they don't, they wouldn't be bothered by WP's third party clients.
    12-24-2014 01:24 AM
  22. panchovx's Avatar
    Anyone ?
    12-25-2014 10:28 AM
  23. UchilHasmit's Avatar
    Its at 6500 currently.. If anyone was curious..
    12-25-2014 12:17 PM
  24. wpn00b's Avatar
    Its at 6500 currently.. If anyone was curious..
    Sweet! There was an old petition that reached 10,000 a year or so ago and nothing has been done. I still hope this reaches enough people to get an app made soon.
    12-25-2014 12:22 PM
  25. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Sweet! There was an old petition that reached 10,000 a year or so ago and nothing has been done. I still hope this reaches enough people to get an app made soon.
    I don't think it will :'( a man can dream though, a man can dream.
    12-25-2014 01:23 PM
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