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  1. Marquis de Faux's Avatar
    10,000 signatures!
    wpn00b likes this.
    12-31-2014 03:23 PM
  2. Luisraul924's Avatar
    10,000 signatures!
    Awesome. But I read that a previous petition to get snapchat on Windows Phone also reached 10,000 signatures yet here we are... :/
    12-31-2014 11:22 PM
  3. rhapdog's Avatar
    100,000 might get their attention... maybe. 250,000 I'm sure would. Less than 50,000 I don't think will make any difference, IMHO. My opinion only, since I'm not snapchat, and probably not worth much. But numbers would have to reach a lot higher to get their attention I am sure.
    01-01-2015 07:33 AM
  4. dnbrealm's Avatar
    Done
    wpn00b likes this.
    01-01-2015 07:43 AM
  5. realwarder's Avatar
    Facebook users feel free to join in here
    Snapchat Has Raised $485 Million More From 23 Investors, At Valuation Of At Least $10B | TechCrunch

    $485m and they can't bother to write an app for a platform with 70 million and growing customers...
    wpn00b, SammyD97, SammyD97 and 1 others like this.
    01-01-2015 11:16 AM
  6. prasath1234's Avatar
    Perhaps they were asked by google to stop any apps for wp.
    From Windows phone
    01-01-2015 10:00 PM
  7. wpn00b's Avatar
    Awesome. But I read that a previous petition to get snapchat on Windows Phone also reached 10,000 signatures yet here we are... :/
    That is true unfortunately but it's still worth another shot. We are trying to organize our requests into a more targeted approach across a few days in a thread. I linked to this petition in the contact methods. A few other contact methods are listed as well.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...-app-week.html
    01-02-2015 02:05 AM
  8. wpn00b's Avatar
    Perhaps they were asked by google to stop any apps for wp.
    From Windows phone
    Forget Google. If that's what happened then let them show their true colors. They aren't "the enemy" and even if they were we wouldn't want to consider them as such. We love our haters haha. However, I sincerely doubt that they have anything to do with us not getting certain apps other than their own.

    Check out this thread where we are focusing on one or two apps per week and requesting the application together but separately. I think it has potential to make some small waves. We are a large group but are regarded as "no one". Check it out and consider participating weekly.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...-app-week.html
    RumoredNow and a5cent like this.
    01-02-2015 08:03 PM
  9. a5cent's Avatar
    $485m and they can't bother to write an app for a platform with 70 million and growing customers...
    Which would cost them well below 50'000. Likely closer to half that. Basically, between 1/1000th or 1/2000th of what they just raised, not to mention what was raised before that.
    I've always said snapchats non-participation is neither about the lack of market share nor money. Those are just excuses for other reasons that aren't discussed publicly.
    RumoredNow, wpn00b and xandros9 like this.
    01-03-2015 08:58 AM
  10. wpn00b's Avatar
    Which would cost them well below 50'000. Likely closer to half that. Basically, between 1/1000th or 1/2000th of what they just raised, not to mention what was raised before that.
    I've always said snapchats non-participation is neither about the lack of market share nor money. Those are just excuses for other reasons that aren't discussed publicly.

    Where are these exorbitant estimates for developing an app coming from? Is that the price over a year of maintenance or just to get it published? I doubt like Rudy Huyn invests 50,000 for each and every application he puts out.

    If it actually costs anyone that much to port an existing application to another mobile platform they are mismanaging their funds.( conjecture ;) )

    I get that they have to plan and write code and pay their employees, but lets say they port an app in a months time, how many employees are they allocating and how much are they paying them?

    They could probably do it with less people involved and the number of users gained would be worth it.

    They're weren't meant iPhone or Android users when those platforms launched but they're were plenty of companies willing to invest whatever it cost to make those apps.
    Last edited by wpn00b; 01-04-2015 at 07:41 PM.
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    01-04-2015 04:39 PM
  11. a5cent's Avatar
    Where are these exorbitant estimated for developing an app coming from?
    My experience as a software engineer and what I hear from IT managers. Someone also posted a link a while back, a very bare-bones tool for estimating app development costs, and the most trivial of trivial app was estimated at around $20'000.

    Possibly you're making the mistake of estimating only software implementation efforts, which in most projects represents less than half of the total development cost.

    What are you basing your estimate on, or what makes you think that is exorbitant? I've personally seen apps cost well over 100'000, without a lot of mismanagement, but of course it depends on what you're looking to build. Something like snapchat is certainly on the simpler side of what you might want to do with software.

    Ultimately, I chose 50'000 just to be on the safe side, because I too am certain it's a lot cheaper to port snapchat. The point is that even then, it's still only 1/1000th of what they just raised.
    sahib lopez and RumoredNow like this.
    01-04-2015 06:20 PM
  12. wpn00b's Avatar
    My experience as a software engineer and what I hear from IT managers. Someone also posted a link a while back, a very bare-bones tool for estimating app development costs, and the most trivial of trivial app was estimated at around $20'000.

    Possibly you're making the mistake of estimating only software implementation efforts, which in most projects represents less than half of the total development cost.

    What are you basing your estimate on, or what makes you think that is exorbitant? I've personally seen apps cost well over 100'000, without a lot of mismanagement, but of course it depends on what you're looking to build. Something like snapchat is certainly on the simpler side of what you might want to do with software.

    Ultimately, I chose 50'000 just to be on the safe side, because I too am certain it's a lot cheaper to port snapchat. The point is that even then, it's still only 1/1000th of what they just raised.
    I apologize, I meant where are these companies coming from saying it isn't worth their time/money. I wasn't questioning your specific estimate. I figure anything that they need to do on the backend such as hosting servers and even the design of the app itself should be trivial considering its already been done twice over. Porting an app should be relatively simple considering most of the time consuming thing like the creative aspects would have been done.

    I really don't understand it enough but I'm just wondering how one person app studios can do it without breaking the bank. In this case, "it" means writing the application and publishing it to the store. I'm sure there is more that I don't get, but that portion would seem to be easy/cheap enough if you've got teams that have done it for you already.

    I've also corrected part of my last post to clarify where I'm coming from LOL. You'll see it...
    a5cent and RumoredNow like this.
    01-04-2015 07:34 PM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    I apologize, I meant where are these companies coming from saying it isn't worth their time/money. I wasn't questioning your specific estimate. I figure anything that they need to do on the backend such as hosting servers and even the design of the app itself should be trivial considering its already been done twice over. Porting an app should be relatively simple considering most of the time consuming thing like the creative aspects would have been done.
    Ah, okay, sorry. Misunderstood that. Well, beats me. With the money they have, it's definitely not due to a lack of funding. Whatever it actually is, we will probably never know.
    RumoredNow and wpn00b like this.
    01-04-2015 08:40 PM
  14. wpn00b's Avatar
    So the hashtag isn't trending and I don't think it ever did but have you all seen how that petition reached 12,000 and is on its way to 13,000? If you have twitter, send a quick tweet out sharing the petition. It surpassed it's goal but we can still keep it going. Here is the link:


    https://www.change.org/p/snapchat-ma...-windows-phone


    Ask people in your feed to sign it. I tweeted it to Ben the PC guy LOL. I doubt he will share it but that'd be kinda cool :)
    RumoredNow likes this.
    01-05-2015 03:07 PM
  15. Marquis de Faux's Avatar
    We need to change the wording on the petition letter. We can't expect them to make an app if we blatantly insult them.
    RumoredNow, wpn00b and xandros9 like this.
    01-06-2015 04:32 PM
  16. Marquis de Faux's Avatar
    The petition maker needs to reword the letter. We can't expect them to make an app if we blatantly insult them.
    01-06-2015 04:36 PM
  17. Tom87's Avatar
    We need to change the wording on the petition letter. We can't expect them to make an app if we blatantly insult them.
    Agreed. The wording of the petition letter is just awful. I've still signed it though.
    wpn00b and xandros9 like this.
    01-06-2015 05:49 PM
  18. wpn00b's Avatar
    This reminds me... I'm wondering if anyone wants to take the time to write up a generic petition that can be used for multiple apps to go in each one of the Requested App of the Week posts. I'll try my hand at it if no one else does. No one responded to my request in the thread itself... :(
    01-06-2015 08:09 PM
  19. UchilHasmit's Avatar
    I'd love to help but English not being my first language,I feel it'd be better if some one else did the writing :P
    wpn00b likes this.
    01-07-2015 09:25 AM
  20. UchilHasmit's Avatar
    Rudy is offering Snapchat the source code for 6Snap. Please retweet and favorite!

    https://twitter.com/RudyHuyn/status/553212710205521920
    01-09-2015 10:33 AM
  21. Prathmesh Thakkar's Avatar
    Entirely with you. #snapchatforwindows
    01-11-2015 02:55 AM
  22. Mr_McMuffin19's Avatar
    So ever since snapchat decided to be weird and ask to remove "all third-party apps" from the windows store, I started to really think that snapchat was finally going to make an official app for us wp users. Well, it doesn't look like that right now; Rudy Huyn (a guy who makes big contributions to the wp users by making amazing "third-party" apps) even asked snapchat on twitter if they wanted the source code from 6snap to make an official app for wp. In return snapchat hasn't even said anything (yet). What do you guys think; will snapchat make an official app for wp, or will we be left in the dark?
    01-12-2015 11:41 PM
  23. xandros9's Avatar
    Use the search button and find the metric boatload of existing discussion on this topic. All you have to type in is "Snapchat" and watch the results pour in.

    But anyways, my suspicions are this point are:
    A. Not wanting to do anything
    B. paid NOT to make an app
    C. waiting for MS to pay them a LOT
    D. personal M$ vendetta
    E. TBD

    eh, I'm a Deus Ex fan.
    01-12-2015 11:48 PM
  24. Mr_McMuffin19's Avatar
    Thanks will do. And I agree; 1) snapchat doesn't really see wp as a usable os for their app and 2) I agree that they are waiting for ms to pay em. I mean, I'd do the same but at least give us users a leak.
    01-12-2015 11:55 PM
  25. fdalbor's Avatar
    With all the chat and message apps on the market who cares. Don't have it on my Android phone and if they make it for WP I won't have it there. Not a big deal.
    01-13-2015 03:35 PM
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