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  1. Andre-Omari John's Avatar
    Sure WP does it. But it doesn't do it any better, and in some cases worse. That's not even mentioning what it won't do at all.
    And at what cost? It's not like a seamless transition 100% of the time. Yes, WP does it. Sometimes. And during those times you can bet it won't be without some frustration on the users part because the app will be "resuming" for ages if you suspend it for a second, or shut down altogether. (that goes for the phone itself, too)

    Don't ever make important notes on OneNote if you only have your phone handy. Rage.
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    12-27-2014 11:49 AM
  2. ajb1965's Avatar
    Mobile Device Management, Corporate Apps/Hubs are all very handy from an IT support and business user perspective IMHO. Office Lens is a great companion to One Note. I use it often, mainly for the whiteboard feature. I can't speak to iPhone, but WP does seem to handle connection to corporate WiFi a little easier over Android, automatically opening the authentication web page etc...
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    12-27-2014 12:42 PM
  3. runamuck83's Avatar
    Mobile Device Management, Corporate Apps/Hubs are all very handy from an IT support and business user perspective IMHO. Office Lens is a great companion to One Note. I use it often, mainly for the whiteboard feature. I can't speak to iPhone, but WP does seem to handle connection to corporate WiFi a little easier over Android, automatically opening the authentication web page etc...
    The app management was one of the reasons we chose it as our standard mobile device offering
    12-27-2014 12:46 PM
  4. dicks-webos's Avatar
    I've been on BlackBerry (Z10) and now have a L930 with Denim. The 930 is a very cool device considering the cost is 50% of an iPhone6. The screen is a beauty with 1080 HD and the camera is very good too. Video with Dolby Surround and 4K too.

    One poster mentioned Office Lens with OneNote and Office, that is indeed perfect. I have all my documents in OneDrive and can open all of them on my phone. Business value is higher than BB imho.

    The OS is easy to use, not sure there will be a lot of changes with 10 re. UX. I value the fact that the OS manages to surface a lot of information without the need to open apps or a notification window. I've changed my usages to scan the main pages and quickly look through the tiles. E.g. email tells you how many new emails, the news tile the latest news, Windows Central how many new articles, etc.

    You can't go wrong with a 930 with Denim imho. Very good value for money, incl. free upgrade to 10.
    12-27-2014 12:55 PM
  5. spazzmeister's Avatar
    Still seems like the consensus is wait for Windows 10. Don't rush into it. Your iPhone is more than able to handle your business needs for now. Once Windows elevates itself above the other OS's then you can switch.
    12-27-2014 12:57 PM
  6. dpaynewp's Avatar
    And at what cost? It's not like a seamless transition 100% of the time. Yes, WP does it. Sometimes. And during those times you can bet it won't be without some frustration on the users part because the app will be "resuming" for ages if you suspend it for a second, or shut down altogether. (that goes for the phone itself, too)

    Don't ever make important notes on OneNote if you only have your phone handy. Rage.
    I don't know of any os that is 100% seamless across a large range of devices or is without any frustration - do you?

    However I can tell you that in the year or so since we moved to windows phone my experience has been the exact opposite of yours - rarely ever have any resuming of more than a second or two, and have never had the phone shut down unexpectedly.

    Also I use it for work every day and have no problem with accessing my documents or OneNote.
    12-27-2014 12:59 PM
  7. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Just test and see if wp fits your needs
    12-27-2014 01:28 PM
  8. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    All very interesting points. With all these positives one would think many companies would be switching over to windows phones. Is there any way to find out that this is actually happening?
    The simple reason is costs involved for the transition. Nothing else. Windows Phone 8.1 is equally if not more enterprise ready as iPhone is. But it is the user experience that counts. With SP3 already in the company, WP8.1 is a natural choice for seamless user experience for all the employees. Clearly for the OP transition costs either aren't too high or not too much of a bother. Also, transitioning infrastructures may cost things but not mobile handsets. Lumia 1320 as mentioned by someone else are the best fit for such a company as OP describes.

    Sure WP does it. But it doesn't do it any better, and in some cases worse. That's not even mentioning what it won't do at all.
    It doesn't do any better? So you are telling me iMessage is better than what Rooms chat does between employees? You are telling me OneNote sync is better handled and experienced between iPhone and SP3 than SP3 and Lumia 1320? I can disagree totally.

    I would love to hear what it won't do but iPhone will do with respect to OP's business needs - genuinely.

    edit: BTW, OP I totally forgot to mention how the bookmarks and passwords on IE will sync seamlessly between a Windows Phone and SP3. I am 100% sure iPhone and SP3 isn't as seamless sync as IE on WP and Windows. Imagine a scenario when the employees research something in office on their SP3, bookmark it. Then go away on a meeting in a different town, forget their SP3 in office and still have those important research pages bookmarked on their Lumia 1320. These small things make up a brilliant user experience.

    A good IT user experience at work seriously makes work less of work, more of joy. Personal experience.
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    12-27-2014 01:56 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    It doesn't do any better? So you are telling me iMessage is better than what Rooms chat does between employees? You are telling me OneNote sync is better handled and experienced between iPhone and SP3 than SP3 and Lumia 1320? I can disagree totally.
    You manufactured scenarios that he didn't mention using. What he mentioned, SharePoint and Office 365, is every bit as good on iPhone, arguably even better. Few people will say that Microsoft's iOS apps aren't better than WP's equivalents.

    Here's an example of a Microsoft service that is great on Android (I don't know if it's on iPhone because I don't currently have one) but is non existent on Windows Phone: an app called "Microsoft account" takes the code out of 2 factor authentication. Instead of checking your Authenticator app for the code and typing it in, you tap the "Approve" button on the app, and boom you're in. In fact, if the app isn't open you don't even need to open it. A notification pops up in the notification bar and you simply Accept. No muss, no fuss, no need to type a code, which may be expired by the time you get it entered.

    I will admit that I haven't had an iPhone for about a year, so I'm not quite up to date. I do use WP and Android side by side, so I know the differences in Microsoft's services on those 2 platforms. I also know that the iPhone's experience in the Microsoft ecosystem at least matches, and often supersedes, Android's. I also know that not too long ago Microsoft released new Office apps for iOS that has other users drooling.
    12-27-2014 02:33 PM
  10. CSJr1's Avatar
    Windows OS has something iOS will never have to offer. (well untill Apple invents it first). That is something called universal apps. If you are running SP3, then WP is the way to go. Employees can appreciate the get once use everywhere app. 1320 or 830 are mid range devices to look at.

    There is no need to delay to W10 unless you are looking for a high end device as all current Lumias will get W10. DailyTech - Microsoft: All* Lumias Will Get Windows 10; Adds Real-Time Battery Live Tile
    12-27-2014 03:35 PM
  11. Hypnopottamus's Avatar
    The OP said that they use SP3's. Getting a WP would only supplement that. As several have stated, Office integration is rock solid on WP. Having Lync, SharePoint, Office 360, and even basic MS AX is pretty cool. Yes, Office is better on iPhone, but lets be honest. No serious business will try to write a full fledged document on a mobile device (that's what having a SP3 like the OP said is for). As long as basic editing and reading is there, WP is a good choice.

    As far as what device to choose; If you want a good budget phone, try the Lumia 630/635. If you want a higher end device, try the Lumia 930 or 830. If you want a big screen like the iPhone 6+, try the Lumia 1520 (or Lumia 1320 if cost is an issue).
    12-27-2014 04:10 PM
  12. colinkiama's Avatar
    Don't listen to the m, I'm a windows fanboy and I say wait for windows 10, stay with your iPhone 6. Or even switch to an android. Windows is in a mess right now.
    12-27-2014 05:54 PM
  13. Nahuel 1988's Avatar
    Don't listen to the m, I'm a windows fanboy and I say wait for windows 10, stay with your iPhone 6. Or even switch to an android. Windows is in a mess right now.
    Agree to disagree. I don't see any "mess". Yet this thread is.
    12-27-2014 06:01 PM
  14. runamuck83's Avatar
    Don't listen to the m, I'm a windows fanboy and I say wait for windows 10, stay with your iPhone 6. Or even switch to an android. Windows is in a mess right now.
    A mess? In your opinion maybe. I could line up a lot of people with a different opinion.

    Opinions, like a holes I say... We all got one
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    12-27-2014 06:27 PM
  15. I3unny's Avatar
    Don't even think about it!!
    12-27-2014 06:53 PM
  16. aximtreo's Avatar
    Yes, but those are all future promises. MS, Apple and Google tend to leap frog one another but it feels like MS is always the one trying to catch up.

    As of now iOS has better MS product integration, more functional camera and video, supports airprint and airplay (mirrorcast f'ing sucks horribly in comparison), has the best messaging (to other Apple devices), better styled hardware, better support. As far as mapping and navigation go iOS wins as you can use google and the native app. Google services are just about non-existent on the platform. I also can't find any working remote apps for any of my home devices. I say all this being a MS fanboy :).

    I'm holding out for WP10 but the wait for Denim is bad enough.

    In the end I think Microsoft's strategy to work everywhere will be a win for them. I just hope they don't neglect their own ecosystem in the process. It should at least be slightly better on their own platform.
    I agree, IOS and Android have a lead on MS. But, don't they have a few years head start as well. As for promises, I only stated what has been posted here and other places so it's not something I made up.
    12-27-2014 06:53 PM
  17. Mahmoud Hussein's Avatar
    That would be a complete waste of money
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    12-27-2014 07:20 PM
  18. makona23's Avatar
    Better wait for windows 10
    12-27-2014 07:39 PM
  19. runamuck83's Avatar
    Better wait for windows 10
    What are you basing that on? What CAN'T the OP do with 8.1 that 10 will allow?
    12-27-2014 07:48 PM
  20. jomarr's Avatar
    Hang on to your 6 and get a Windows Phone next year. The latest flagship is a year old already. I'm not saying that they're not great, my 1520 is so awesome right now but I'd rather you get a Windows Phone device next year than today.
    12-27-2014 08:08 PM
  21. runamuck83's Avatar
    Hang on to your 6 and get a Windows Phone next year. The latest flagship is a year old already. I'm not saying that they're not great, my 1520 is so awesome right now but I'd rather you get a Windows Phone device next year than today.
    OP said he didn't care if it was a flagship.... Again, how is this relevant?
    12-27-2014 08:11 PM
  22. ByeVanno's Avatar
    If you want to migrate the Lumia 635 seems to be your phone maybe a few 1320 because of their size but I don't see the point in migrating over when you have iphone 6 already for your team(unless I misunderstood) because its already capable of pretty much all you need
    12-27-2014 08:36 PM
  23. Andre-Omari John's Avatar
    I don't know of any os that is 100% seamless across a large range of devices or is without any frustration - do you?

    However I can tell you that in the year or so since we moved to windows phone my experience has been the exact opposite of yours - rarely ever have any resuming of more than a second or two, and have never had the phone shut down unexpectedly.

    Also I use it for work every day and have no problem with accessing my documents or OneNote.
    Well no, nothing is perfect. That doesn't mean perfection should not be expected. The degrees of frustration on Windows, (phone, post XP, RT) for me, has become so severe in the last decade. Familiarity is their saving grace. Switching from the simplistic IOS to WP would be an unwelcome shock. No two ways about it.

    What I would say to the OP is to get any Lumia (1520, 1320 or 930 preferably) and avoid every other brand like the plague. 4 days from 2015... Who wants to be frustrated with technology anymore, waiting, fuming and so on? Think about it like this: You reckon the important players at Microsoft (or any tech company) deal with the problems that their consumers do?
    12-27-2014 08:42 PM
  24. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Hang on to your 6 and get a Windows Phone next year. The latest flagship is a year old already. I'm not saying that they're not great, my 1520 is so awesome right now but I'd rather you get a Windows Phone device next year than today.
    OP doesn't want a flagship. Isn't looking for it.
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    12-27-2014 09:43 PM
  25. Bologwp's Avatar
    WOW, after reading this thread, all I can say is I would recommend WP anytime, but not this website. I read it several times a day and have converted at least 10 people to WP and oh damn, they are happy with them! But there are about 20-30 people here that comment on almost every article and forum topic and they are almost always negative!

    OP, listen to the folks that are giving you the good advise, don't bother with the rest. My 2 year old 822 syncs' all of my email and office docs without fail, if this is the way you want to go, you won't be disappointed. It's obvious that you have already checked out the apps you need, I would say 830, 930 or 1520. I'm on Verizon so I will get the Samsung Ativ SE in a couple of weeks only because Verizon doesn't carry the 830.

    No, I don't comment on all of the topics or articles, but this one got to me, for some reason WC seems to have the highest percentage of whiners!
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    12-27-2014 09:54 PM
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