01-21-2015 01:16 AM
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  1. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    Some people complains about how Symbian requires too many screen interaction but honestly WP is worse. It appears that the phone answering procedure makes me miss calls. On most other operating systems, the screen goes automatically on and then you just have to either swipe or press on the screen. With WP you must have to swipe upwards to remove the idle screen, then press a button. This is totally unnecessary. Also under stress this swipe motion makes you less able to re-aim for the button, losing time.

    My suggestion is that the should not be any requirement to swipe upwards when receiving a phone and just press the button or swipe just like all others. The phone screen shall just be there. Microsoft really got it wrong here and did not test this procedure fully through.
    taymur, RumoredNow and banger696 like this.
    01-19-2015 05:57 AM
  2. dKp1977's Avatar
    Ehm.. I never need to swipe up to lockscreen when I'm receiving a call. If the proximity sensor isn't covered, the display lights up and immediately shows the incoming call with 2 buttons: answer and reject. I don't see any way to reduce the procedure to pick up a phone call even more. oO
    zeuxiss and steve_w_7 like this.
    01-19-2015 06:02 AM
  3. Pete's Avatar
    Umm.. I use a screen lock on mine and I simply have to tap the big "answer" or "ignore" button. I don't need to type a PIN code or swipe anything.

    With the "gestures beta" app, you can even answer the phone simply by picking it up...
    zeuxiss, taymur, arjunan and 2 others like this.
    01-19-2015 06:03 AM
  4. Harrie-S's Avatar
    I do not agree with this. If the lock screen would automatically unlock what happens than if you need to get your phone out of your pocket. Before you know it you kill the call or whatever because you touch the screen.
    Sonu K and nohra like this.
    01-19-2015 06:03 AM
  5. Harrie-S's Avatar
    And even better install Gestures Beta.

    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...4-d2d4f8a4ac96
    01-19-2015 06:09 AM
  6. dKp1977's Avatar
    I do not agree with this. If the lock screen would automatically unlock what happens than if you need to get your phone out of your pocket. Before you know it you kill the call or whatever because you touch the screen.
    It sort of DOES unlock. Not in a way that you could access your homescreen, but in the way that you can pick up the call. Nothing's gonna happen while getting the phone out of a case, pouch or your pocket, as there's a slight delay before the screen goes on. That's what the proximity sensor is for.
    ven07 and zeuxiss like this.
    01-19-2015 06:12 AM
  7. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    Umm.. I use a screen lock on mine and I simply have to tap the big "answer" or "ignore" button. I don't need to type a PIN code or swipe anything.

    With the "gestures beta" app, you can even answer the phone simply by picking it up...
    So is this a setting that I have missed?
    01-19-2015 06:46 AM
  8. lumiarna's Avatar
    It's odd as I don't know why the OP has this issue. On my 1520 (and old 520) if I had a call I would just get a answer or reject screen come up and my phone was locked. Don't need to swipe up at all
    ven07, benjobaggins and steve_w_7 like this.
    01-19-2015 06:55 AM
  9. Pete's Avatar
    So is this a setting that I have missed?
    There's no setting I know of that can have the effect of making your phone harder to answer. You might want to look in settings->ease of access to make sure you have everything set to "off" (unless there's anything in there you actually need).
    01-19-2015 07:01 AM
  10. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    This issue is observed on Nokia 930 Denim.
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    01-19-2015 07:02 AM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I have this too... But Gestures beta solves it nicely.

    I had my wife call me so I could take some screen shots. The call came in while my phone was locked and on Glance. Lumia 1520.3, Official 8.1 + Cyan.


    The call comes in and I see this...

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    After sliding the panel up I see this...

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    Now that I have Gestures beta, however, I just look at the first screen and if I want to answer I put the phone to my ear.
    ven07, Harrie-S, banger696 and 3 others like this.
    01-19-2015 10:12 AM
  12. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    I have this too... But Gestures beta solves it nicely.

    I had my wife call me so I could take some screen shots. The call came in while my phone was locked and on Glance. Lumia 1520.3, Official 8.1 + Cyan.


    The call comes in and I see this...

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    After sliding the panel up I see this...

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    Now that I have Gestures beta, however, I just look at the first screen and if I want to answer I put the phone to my ear.
    Thank you for posting the pictures so that we all can see how it looks like. This is exactly what I'm seeing on my phone as well.

    So basically swipe up and then press a button. Doesn't sound like much but under stress these action are really time consuming and the swipe up doesn't fit well with the button press afterwards. This is totally unnecessary I think and simple swipe or a press would be enough. I don't understand how Microsoft UI professionals would come up with something like this.

    So today I missed several calls because of this and Microsoft should fix this.

    My phone is in a flip case so the question is how that would work with gestures beta. In all I don't think such simple interaction should require an extra app because Microsoft cannot understand simple things.
    RumoredNow and taymur like this.
    01-19-2015 11:55 AM
  13. T Moore's Avatar
    If you have a feature suggestion speak up at Windows Phone Feature Suggestion Box, to let your voice go beyond this forum. http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/fo...re-suggestions
    ven07 likes this.
    01-19-2015 12:16 PM
  14. djarchow's Avatar
    I understand the motivation for the screen. They want to have a swipe option as this makes it less likely you will answer or hang up getting the phone out of your pocket or purse. but they still need to give three options to answer, ignore, or text back. I would have the option to swipe up to answer immediately and swipe down to not answer. If you swipe down, I would show the two options to either ignore or text a reply. This way the more commonly used option "answer" only takes one motion.
    Last edited by djarchow; 01-19-2015 at 01:44 PM.
    01-19-2015 12:29 PM
  15. RiskyAbhi's Avatar
    I think the slide up and then press feature is to stop accidental answer to calls.
    Sonu K likes this.
    01-19-2015 12:29 PM
  16. Harrie-S's Avatar
    I think the slide up and then press feature is to stop accidental answer to calls.
    It is.
    Sonu K likes this.
    01-19-2015 01:38 PM
  17. dKp1977's Avatar
    It is.
    Still wondering as to why some users have that and others don't. Seriously, I never get that swipe screen when receiving a call. Lumia 1520, Cyan, latest DP.
    Hypnopottamus likes this.
    01-19-2015 01:57 PM
  18. Harrie-S's Avatar
    Thank you for posting the pictures so that we all can see how it looks like. This is exactly what I'm seeing on my phone as well.

    So basically swipe up and then press a button. Doesn't sound like much but under stress these action are really time consuming and the swipe up doesn't fit well with the button press afterwards. This is totally unnecessary I think and simple swipe or a press would be enough. I don't understand how Microsoft UI professionals would come up with something like this.

    So today I missed several calls because of this and Microsoft should fix this.

    My phone is in a flip case so the question is how that would work with gestures beta. In all I don't think such simple interaction should require an extra app because Microsoft cannot understand simple things.
    Indeed RumoredNow did a great job by making the pictures. He is our main man at WC

    But did you try gestures beta.
    Just open the flip and bring the phone to you ear. And if the flip prevents it but without it work than I would suggest to change your flip. Because i think it can not become easier than using Gestures Beta.

    And about the "need" for an extra app. When Microsoft went from 8.0 to 8.1 they deliberately cut some build in OS functions out of the OS to make update easier. Now "only" a app update is needed to fine tune a functionality and not an OS update with carriers approval etc.
    So an update can be done very fast.

    I really hope you give gestures beta a chance because I really think it will solve the issue.
    01-19-2015 02:14 PM
  19. RumoredNow's Avatar
    This behavior started for me under Cyan... As dKp 1977 asks, why some and not all?

    There must be a setting somewhere... I just have not found it.

    Gestures Beta should just work even with the flip case. I think it reads accelerometer + proximity sensors to decide when you have put the phone to your ear. It never fails for me and I love it.
    gpobernardo likes this.
    01-19-2015 02:20 PM
  20. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Some people complains about how Symbian requires too many screen interaction but honestly WP is worse. It appears that the phone answering procedure makes me miss calls. On most other operating systems, the screen goes automatically on and then you just have to either swipe or press on the screen. With WP you must have to swipe upwards to remove the idle screen, then press a button. This is totally unnecessary. Also under stress this swipe motion makes you less able to re-aim for the button, losing time.

    My suggestion is that the should not be any requirement to swipe upwards when receiving a phone and just press the button or swipe just like all others. The phone screen shall just be there. Microsoft really got it wrong here and did not test this procedure fully through.
    All I do is put the phone to my ear to answer it.

    1520.3 w/gesture
    01-19-2015 02:32 PM
  21. dKp1977's Avatar
    This behavior started for me under Cyan... As dKp 1977 asks, why some and not all?

    There must be a setting somewhere... I just have not found it.

    Gestures Beta should just work even with the flip case. I think it reads accelerometer + proximity sensors to decide when you have put the phone to your ear. It never fails for me and I love it.
    I have just checked all settings where a specific option like that would make sense. I couldn't find anything that comes even close. Couldn't it be device specific for some reason? AluminumRims stated that it was a known issue on the 930.
    01-19-2015 03:03 PM
  22. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I have just checked all settings where a specific option like that would make sense. I couldn't find anything that comes even close. Couldn't it be device specific for some reason? AluminumRims stated that it was a known issue on the 930.
    Possibly, but you don't have it on what I assume is an RM-937 1520 and I do have it on an RM-938 1520. Why split the firmware on variants for this one item?
    01-19-2015 03:09 PM
  23. Harrie-S's Avatar
    I have just checked all settings where a specific option like that would make sense. I couldn't find anything that comes even close. Couldn't it be device specific for some reason? AluminumRims stated that it was a known issue on the 930.
    But RumordNow has a 1520.3.
    And I have a 820 and 925 both on P4D with the same "slide" before pick up.
    So it looks like a real mystery.
    01-19-2015 03:11 PM
  24. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Possibly, but you don't have it on what I assume is an RM-937 1520 and I do have it on an RM-938 1520. Why split the firmware on variants for this one item?
    I've had a 620, 625 and 735.it happens for all. When the phone is locked you need to swipe up, otherwise it works as normal
    Its really quite obvious once it happens a few times. Its been there since WP7
    Edit : If you don't believe me
    http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/ho...ve-phone-calls
    "To answer an incoming call

    When you get an incoming call:
    If your phone is locked, slide up, then tap Answer.
    If your phone is unlocked, tap Answer.
    "
    http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/ho...ve-phone-calls
    "To answer a call

    If your phone is locked when you get an incoming call, slide up, and then tap Answer. If your phone is unlocked, tap Answer. To send an incoming call directly to voicemail, tap Ignore."
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    01-19-2015 03:41 PM
  25. banger696's Avatar
    I have just put gestures on my L530 with flip wallet. The wallet has a hole at the top so you dont need to open the wallet and it answers just fine as does the speaker come on (another hole) when placed on a desk.
    01-19-2015 03:56 PM
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