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  1. Iain_S's Avatar
    all the websites that have been given as example's of not rendering correctly, render correctly on my 930 running 8.1 update with denim. The only site I had an issue with was cbc.ca but only when I clicked on the news link.
    02-22-2015 05:54 PM
  2. Ten Four's Avatar
    I see this all the time on my Lumia 635 and previously on my 520. I just don't bother with some sites on the phone, but instead view them only on my desktop.
    02-22-2015 06:44 PM
  3. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Hmm... I've never had problems with Internet Explorer on my Lumia. Can't recall ever seeing it crash (or much of anything on WP - I've actually had more apps crash on iOS and; of course, Android would be the most unstable). Just for gags, I went ahead and loaded up some of the sites I saw mentioned here to see how they worked.

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    Everything's good here.
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    Very simple, but everything seems to work okay.
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    Not optimized for mobile viewing, but the desktop site had no rendering problems.
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    The ads don't scale properly to the designated area, but everything else is rendering just fine.
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    Again, not optimized for mobile viewing... but for those wanting to try a full desktop site on a small screen it doesn't really seem to have any problems. I'd sooner see if it's something that can be integrated with Tapatalk instead of making my life harder
    Not a single instance of that "error" screen... and as someone who creates and manages websites for organizations, I've actually found that IE is handling experimental HTML5 a lot smoother than Chrome on my LG G3 and Safari on my iPhone 6 (which would be reasonably redundant if they are webkit-based like their desktop counterparts).

    Santander bank's mobile website is a train-wreck... but it appears they simply didn't code it very well since the desktop version is also a mess. The site looks very... web 1.0, and I'm not surprised at all to find that it doesn't validate... also the locator is way off.
    Last edited by TLRtheory; 02-23-2015 at 04:22 AM.
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    02-23-2015 03:38 AM
  4. ashishmohta's Avatar
    The problem you mentioned do show up now and then. Not always, but IE on WP is not the best browser. Suggest you to try UC Browser
    02-23-2015 04:33 AM
  5. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    I'm not sure what peoples problems are but due to my insomnia, I just spent the last couple hours browsing the web on my phone. I can happily say that there were no issues loading any web page.
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    02-23-2015 06:02 AM
  6. MDK22's Avatar
    Yes, certain mobile sites do NOT render correctly on IE for WinPhone. As others have mentioned, Spartan browser (when it's rolled out w Win10) should remediate that.

    My current solution, use IE in mobile mode, use UC Browser in desktop mode, no switching settings, just bouncing between apps.
    02-23-2015 06:45 AM
  7. richv77's Avatar
    The same for me as well.

    Is Firefox going to be released for WP?

    I will also say that IE is my least favorite web browser whether on a smartphone or a desktop. At work we always recommend using Firefox or Chrome when accessing Blackboard Learn or even our electronic portfolio application. There are less glitches.

    I also hope Spartan is better.

    ​-Rich

    the cbc.ca is mostly good, but when going to the news section does give me the same error as you. All other sites render just fine.
    02-23-2015 10:18 AM
  8. alexander0311's Avatar
    dont bother. IE mobile is totally crap when it comes to rendering. I love WP but im honest enough to admit that. IF you cant wait till W10 for phones then maybe you should thinkg about a (hope temporary) android revert.
    02-23-2015 11:24 AM
  9. Alain_A's Avatar
    same for me at home I can't see the cbc.ca news....works very well on my Blackberry tho
    02-23-2015 12:03 PM
  10. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Decided to check out the news tab of cbc.ca to see if maybe I could get any of the issues mentioned here..

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    ...as expected, IE rendered it just fine. Also decided to check out some of the other sites i'd missed over
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    Fatface worked perfectly, I was able to do an entire pretend shopping spree for my daughter with zero problems.
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    Same deal with the uk Vodafone site. I went through about twenty or so pages there without any rendering issues messing with the browsing experience.

    The problem clearly isn't IE... or Windows Phone.

    BTW, everyone recommending UC should probably re-read the original post; he established in the very first post that he'd already tried that.
    Last edited by TLRtheory; 02-23-2015 at 10:13 PM.
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    02-23-2015 12:26 PM
  11. Yazen's Avatar
    Hey all,

    I'm wondering if I'm alone in this. I've just made the jump to Windows phone (Nokia Lumia 830 w/ Denim) from android, as I've been looking forward to Win 10. I love the start screen and live tiles, and overall the experience has been good. I don't need a ton of apps, and what is available is sufficient for my needs, BUT..

    There are a large number of webpages that don't load correctly when in mobile view. I've gotten blank pages with "error" on the phone, but more often will just get pages that have sections trailing off outside of the viewing area or links that overlap with other links. I can switch to desktop mode which allows me to view the webpages but having to zoom in all the time and have the page re-render is a huge PIA. Forum sites are especially problematic. I've tried just about every browser available. IE, Opera Mini, UC Browser, maxxthon, Surfy; they all run into the same problems. I love the phone but if I can't browse websites properly I'm going to have to revert back to android :(. I really wanted to love this phone and give WP a chance!

    Are there any updates coming soon that might address these issues? / is anyone else experiencing the same problems?

    thanks :)
    Yeah, I have similar problems too. Does not matter what web browser you use because they all render using IE Engine! You could wait for W10/Spartan but idk...

    IE Mobile is terrible when it comes to rendering, not much worse than IE11 on desktop. Even the ancient webkit browser on Palm Pre loads WPC Forums better than the Lumia 925.

    [EDIT]

    • HTML editors in places like the WPC forums are a PITA to use.
    • Long lists with photos crash the browser. e.g wallhaven.cc
    • Trailing, render window height/size issue. e.g BlackBoard


    A lot of this code is based on standards that many sites take advantage of. Only the most basic websites have no rendering issues.
    02-23-2015 01:19 PM
  12. Yazen's Avatar
    The same for me as well.

    Is Firefox going to be released for WP?

    I will also say that IE is my least favorite web browser whether on a smartphone or a desktop. At work we always recommend using Firefox or Chrome when accessing Blackboard Learn or even our electronic portfolio application. There are less glitches.

    I also hope Spartan is better.

    ​-Rich
    Yeah, BlackBoard is terrible lol ... Cannot access Instructor resources, etc.
    Firefox might be a possibility in W10, but in WP8.1 is pretty much impossible to have Firefox with Gecko. Would be a Firefox-themed Trident browser haha
    02-23-2015 01:31 PM
  13. Benny1434's Avatar
    I have to agree, IE is my least favorite part about WP. I have DP installed, and yes, some webpages do look a lot better now (not rendered in ancient code anymore), but with the addition of some Android and iOS strings, there are the occasional pages that do not load properly. One of the most frustrating is the banking website that I now have to use (dropped WP support). Ok, that's a bull move but whatever I'll use the website. Thing is when I use the website I can't do what I need to do because the important buttons that take me where I need to go cannot be pressed to move to the correct page, annoying. There have been a few other issues with formatting but nothing end of the world. Only other annoyance is, on certain websites, ads that snap the entire page to the very top after everything loads, making reading while all other garbage is loading a pretty frustrating experience.

    ​Other than the occasional annoying IE issues, I am more than completely satisfied with WP and am loving my 1520. Looking forward to Windows 10 and Spartan.
    02-25-2015 09:21 PM
  14. tangledW's Avatar
    I'm not sure if you guys have used other platforms recently, but many web pages don't tender right on my iPhone either. So I don't think it will ever be perfect on WP. Although it's much better on 8.1.1.
    02-25-2015 09:30 PM
  15. Mike Waechter's Avatar
    Same issue with my 1520. Hopefully the browser would be better with windows phone 10.
    02-25-2015 09:35 PM
  16. TLRtheory's Avatar
    I'm not sure if you guys have used other platforms recently, but many web pages don't tender right on my iPhone either. So I don't think it will ever be perfect on WP. Although it's much better on 8.1.1.
    Yeah, as someone who also owns an LG G3 and iPhone 6, I meant to address this... especially for the lady about to switch to iOS for Santander when the site has the same rendering issues in Safari. The grass isn't any greener on the Android side of things either (of course; on the other platforms you have dedicated Santander bank apps... going by the reviews, we aren't missing out on anything special).
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    That's Chrome, then Firefox BTW. My original intention was actually to do a side-by-side comparison between IE on WP, Chrome/Firefox on Android and Safari on iOS... but seeing as loading pages on IE gave me (and quite a few others within this very same thread) no issues there it wouldn't have proved anything.

    Won't change much though... despite providing successfully rendered samples of every site listed thus far there's always the strange phenomena that something will simply be cool to hate for little to no reason than "Other people are doing it"... unfortunately IE is the target here. Something that may cause your problems are restrictive or metered connections. At work we have a restricted network that blocks certain types of scripting, and therefore causes pages to load incorrectly. That may be what the few people are running into when they say they have rendering issues... but no example here solidifies that IE is the problem.
    Last edited by TLRtheory; 02-26-2015 at 04:23 AM.
    02-26-2015 03:29 AM
  17. Mike Waechter's Avatar
    No, there are plenty of sites that look and behave poorly. Apologist of the platform are the cause for its demise, especially at Microsoft.

    With the latest updates, visit CNN.com and tell me how the entire site is unusable but on my iPhone4, it works just fine? Simple and basic stuff my friend..
    02-26-2015 07:19 AM
  18. TLRtheory's Avatar
    With the latest updates, visit CNN.com and tell me how the entire site is unusable
    I'd love to tell you how it's "unusable," because that'd mean we finally - at long last - have a user here who's actually provided an example of something that just doesn't work right on IE instead of just the usual IE fad hate. I typically spend twenty or so minutes of my morning on the MSN news app just killing time before I have to have to work on my own websites for the organization that pays me to do so... so I decided that I'd switch it up and use CNN instead.

    As expected... had zero issues. Played with their sexy (stolen) hamburger menu for quite a while, did some searches, read a number or articles... no problems.

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    02-26-2015 08:35 AM
  19. Mike Waechter's Avatar
    No, no more than two weeks ago it was unusable on a 1520, 830.
    02-27-2015 07:50 AM
  20. TLRtheory's Avatar
    No, no more than two weeks ago it was unusable on a 1520, 830.
    Well, I've got an Icon, 820, a 520, and my wife's 1020 and the site's rendering much like the examples I've provided on every one of those Lumias (FTR, the screencaps are all from my 820).

    They probably just worked out some kinks in their own site since you last looked into it some weeks ago. I see that their mobile site is 46 errors away from a successful validation, so I'd be more than willing to bet they're still working out some kinks. Every great site is.
    02-27-2015 08:20 AM
  21. fgaudet's Avatar
    Just for gags, I went ahead and loaded up some of the sites I saw mentioned here to see how they worked. Not a single instance of that "error" screen...
    About the cbc.ca site: if you click the "News" section, you'll get the "Error - go back" page.
    For us Canadians, Cortana's headlines are often cbc.ca links; half the headlines proposed by Cortana not working is a major frustration.
    03-03-2015 08:53 AM
  22. TLRtheory's Avatar
    About the cbc.ca site: if you click the "News" section, you'll get the "Error - go back" page.
    Certainly did not, but that's actually something I addressed earlier.

    Decided to check out the news tab of cbc.ca to see if maybe I could get any of the issues mentioned here..

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    ...as expected, IE rendered it just fine.
    03-03-2015 09:42 PM
  23. fgaudet's Avatar
    Certainly did not, but that's actually something I addressed earlier.
    Pray tell, how do you get to that page? Can you post a link that works on your 830? Are you on DP, Denim update?

    My IE is set to "mobile version", rest is default settings. Lumia 830 RM-985_1000, Denim *not* updated, OS version: 8.10.14157.200, firmware: 02040.00005.14373.00001.

    Every cbc.ca headline proposed by Cortana ends up on the white "Error - Go back" page. Just tried another cbc.ca headline and it did it again with this link : http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/ukrai...dead-1.2980938

    Going directly to cbc.ca redirects me to CBC.ca/m/touch, and shows this menu :
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    Clicking "News", "Sports", "My Region", always ends up on this page or a totally white, empty page which if refreshed ends up on the same error page :
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    However, the Music, Radio One, Television and Program Guide sections work, as does the desktop version of the site.
    03-04-2015 11:28 AM
  24. fgaudet's Avatar
    cnn.com seems to work, but once the page is loaded, it's unresponsive : can't scroll to anywhere of click anything. Hmm, cnn.com is hit or miss : sometimes stays unresponsive, sometimes not. Some rendering or loading issues...

    fatface.com loads ok, but is rather unresponsive.
    avsforum.com works fine for me, as does hardwareheaven.com.
    03-04-2015 12:04 PM
  25. sugarbowl's Avatar
    Bleacherreport does not render well for me. I'm not allowed to post URLs
    03-04-2015 03:20 PM
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