05-15-2015 08:56 AM
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  1. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    Will I experience any problems on a Lumia 920 forcing it to update to Denim by using the developer preview? AT&T hasn't released the update yet.
    05-11-2015 07:49 AM
  2. charlatan1978's Avatar
    Hi, Denim is a firmware update and you wont be able to 'force it' with the developer preview.
    05-11-2015 07:56 AM
  3. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    What is this update then? After installing Developer Preview and then Checking For Updates in settings, this update appeared....It's going to force-install soon. I'm worried!
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    05-11-2015 08:09 AM
  4. charlatan1978's Avatar
    It will be an OS update, you will be able to update to the latest OS version OS version8.10.14234.375 (After a series of separate updates).
    05-11-2015 08:11 AM
  5. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    It will be an OS update, you will be able to update to the latest OS version OS version8.10.14234.375 (After a series of separate updates).
    So what will that update give me? Any new features? Will I still be on Cyan?
    05-11-2015 08:14 AM
  6. charlatan1978's Avatar
    You will still be on Cyan, although sometimes the about section reports it as denim (it is not though and there are numerous threads on here about it).
    I'm not 100% sure what features you get, do you currently have live folders and Cortana?
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    05-11-2015 08:19 AM
  7. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    I do have Cortana, but I do NOT have live folders
    05-11-2015 08:31 AM
  8. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    Well, the update is currently installing....we'll see what happens. Hopefully my battery life doesn't go to **** or anything like that
    05-11-2015 08:33 AM
  9. charlatan1978's Avatar
    I've never had any issues with developer preview on my phones (Lumia 930, 625 and HTC 8S).
    05-11-2015 08:43 AM
  10. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    The update finished and it still says Cyan..I guess no surprise there. It re-installed all my apps and everything. I went to check for updates again and it said there was one to download. I dismissed it because I don't want to get any more updates that might jeopardize my battery life or functionality. I unchecked the box for developer preview. Hopefully I won't get any constant notifications about downloading that update that I dismissed.
    05-11-2015 09:08 AM
  11. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    It is a two part update, and the first download is really not going to work like it should without the second. and if you are afraid of the updates why did you sign up for the Developer preview?
    05-11-2015 10:10 AM
  12. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    It is a two part update, and the first download is really not going to work like it should without the second. and if you are afraid of the updates why did you sign up for the Developer preview?
    lol because I thought I would get Denim and the ability to "call" Cortana through my car's bluetooth and give it commands. What will this update bring me if I do it fully? As long as it doesn't start installing WP10, I guess I'm fine...
    05-11-2015 10:16 AM
  13. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    lol because I thought I would get Denim and the ability to "call" Cortana through my car's bluetooth and give it commands. What will this update bring me if I do it fully? As long as it doesn't start installing WP10, I guess I'm fine...
    I don't know if it will give you bluetooth control of Cortana I have not tried it, I did notice that it made the camera somewhat faster, and mine does say Denim. My 920 has been regulated to my backup phone so I really don't use it very much, but I do keep it updated. The Developer preview will not install WP 10, so no worries there, I have yet to get something bad from a download from microsoft on my 920, so install, have fun.
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    05-11-2015 10:37 AM
  14. charlatan1978's Avatar
    You would need to be signed up to Windows Insider to download WP10.
    Just having the developer preview will not download it.
    05-11-2015 10:37 AM
  15. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    well I finished the update yesterday. It says I have Denim and it popped up a message about turning on location for the camera when I first opened the camera...making me believe something changed. I still don't have Cortana as a contact. I have a friend with a 1520 that says he can "call Cortana" through his bluetooth and cortana will answer and he can give it voice commands like "Open xxx app" without having to look at/touch the phone. Is this possible?
    05-12-2015 07:16 AM
  16. pankaj981's Avatar
    The Bluetooth car control is an OS update not dependant on the Denim firmware. The latest OS version on Preview for Developers is 14219 also known as Update 1. If you are on it then your can invoke Cortana while driving without touching your phone when paired via Bluetooth. Depending on your car's audio controls one key is mapped to calling Cortana, especially the call button and this button mapping varies between cars. In my Camaro I'll press the call button and say call Cortana, then it'll dial 4444 and Cortana gets invoked.
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    05-12-2015 07:29 AM
  17. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    yeah, I can't get this to work at all. Cortana is not a contact on my phone and when I dial that 555 number it says cannot be connected. Is this just an AT&T problem?
    05-12-2015 07:38 AM
  18. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    The Bluetooth car control is an OS update not dependant on the Denim firmware. The latest OS version on Preview for Developers is 14219 also known as Update 1. If you are on it then your can invoke Cortana while driving without touching your phone when paired via Bluetooth. Depending on your car's audio controls one key is mapped to calling Cortana, especially the call button and this button mapping varies between cars. In my Camaro I'll press the call button and say call Cortana, then it'll dial 4444 and Cortana gets invoked.
    does "Cortana" show up as a contact in your contact list on the phone when not connected to bluetooth? I have a 2013 Mustang with Sync and the latest Sync update. I've tried pressing the voice button and saying "Call Cortana", then Sync will spout off a list of contacts starting with C that sound kind of like Cortana as if it misheard me.
    I haven't tried it yet since the 8.10.14157.200 update, but I will try during lunch. I don't see how it would be any different this time though :(
    05-12-2015 07:40 AM
  19. pankaj981's Avatar
    Nope Cortana does not show up as a contact in the people app but when connected to the car looks like it acts as an internal contact only used to invoke Cortana
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    05-12-2015 07:51 AM
  20. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    Thank you Pankaj, during lunch I will try this again. I'll probably un-sync the phone and delete it from the car and phone; then set up the bluetooth again and re-download all contacts to see if that works. I'll let you guys know what happens!
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    05-12-2015 08:47 AM
  21. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    omg omg omg!!! I got it to work!!! After deleting the phone and deleting sync off of bluetooth, I was able to call Cortana and it worked!! I tried it a few times and it worked pretty well. One time though it took Sync too long to connect and Cortana said "Sorry, didn't catch that." I guess that just comes with the territory of Sync being slow as hell lol.

    Thanks guys!!
    05-13-2015 07:16 AM
  22. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    Just FYI- since doing the updates, battery life on my 920 has been despicable. Steady 5-10% (sometimes 20%) loss per hour as opposed to a steady 3-4% before the update. Looks like I'm living that tethered-to-charger life again! Thanks Windows Phone!
    05-14-2015 07:10 AM
  23. vsmh96's Avatar
    Just FYI- since doing the updates, battery life on my 920 has been despicable. Steady 5-10% (sometimes 20%) loss per hour as opposed to a steady 3-4% before the update. Looks like I'm living that tethered-to-charger life again! Thanks Windows Phone!
    See if the battery stays that way in a few days. Things should improve, however also note that all things will age and eventually start to deteriorate in performance. Batteries are the same.
    05-14-2015 07:28 AM
  24. Blacklac's Avatar
    Try a soft reset, too.
    05-14-2015 07:32 AM
  25. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    lol I soft reset all the time. Any 920 owner should be familiar with this. Often the battery will just start leeching when not even being used...soft reset.
    05-14-2015 07:36 AM
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