06-13-2015 10:00 PM
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  1. ZeroTheBurninator's Avatar
    So I just tried to hook my Nokia 1520 (That I'm absolutely in love with) to verizon - And it didn't work. I've done research (which I should have done before) and found out why - Because it's not compatible with the network (which is really stupid IMO.).

    In any case, what Windows Phones can I use on the verizon network? I love my current plan, and don't wish to switch providers, just have a windows phone on the side for when I need it (for development and stuff). I'd prefer a larger screen as well, but it's not a requirement. Thanks! :D
    06-12-2015 10:12 AM
  2. rory753's Avatar
    the lumia 735 is coming out next week, which should be a nice phone, albeit a mid range. technically, the better phone is the lumia icon, which has recently been updated with denim. the real question is what flagship will verizon get this fall, and should you hold off a real purchase/ contract deal until then. personally, IF i had to stick with verizon, i would get the cheapest phone i could right now before knowing what comes out in the fall for W10M.
    06-12-2015 10:25 AM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Verizon will only activate a Verizon branded phone onto Verizon...
    06-12-2015 11:44 AM
  4. ZeroTheBurninator's Avatar
    Verizon will only activate a Verizon branded phone onto Verizon...
    As long as it's unlocked (and apparently on the right bands/using the right technology?), my local store has no problem doing it. They tried, but the IMEI wasn't in their database because the phone wasn't compatible with their network. (That was their reasoning for it, as opposed to "it has to be verizon brand".)
    06-12-2015 03:11 PM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    As long as it's unlocked (and apparently on the right bands/using the right technology?), my local store has no problem doing it. They tried, but the IMEI wasn't in their database because the phone wasn't compatible with their network. (That was their reasoning for it, as opposed to "it has to be verizon brand".)
    Well, only Verizon branded phones have the hardware to even work with Verizon's CDMA network for the most part.
    And on top of that, they whitelist phones I believe, so a Sprint model probably won't be working on that and vice versa.
    06-12-2015 03:18 PM
  6. Yazen's Avatar
    So I just tried to hook my Nokia 1520 (That I'm absolutely in love with) to verizon - And it didn't work. I've done research (which I should have done before) and found out why - Because it's not compatible with the network (which is really stupid IMO.).

    In any case, what Windows Phones can I use on the verizon network? I love my current plan, and don't wish to switch providers, just have a windows phone on the side for when I need it (for development and stuff). I'd prefer a larger screen as well, but it's not a requirement. Thanks! :D
    Lumia ICON, HTC One M8
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    06-12-2015 03:20 PM
  7. xandros9's Avatar
    Lumia ICON, HTC One M8
    I agree with these choices.
    I'd pick the Samsung ATIV SE if it was by hardware design alone, but Samsung's support of it has been... poor, while both other phones have more of a future.
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    06-12-2015 03:35 PM
  8. tgp's Avatar
    my local store has no problem doing it. They tried
    Hmmm, it seems to me they should have known better. I'm surprised they even tried to activate a 1520.

    Verizon will only activate a Verizon branded phone onto Verizon...
    Mostly, but the unlocked Nexus 6 works on Verizon, and reports are the that factory unlocked iPhone 6/6+ work as well.
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    06-12-2015 03:58 PM
  9. bo_woods's Avatar
    honorable mention could include the Microsoft Lumia 730 coming this month (or next month I think)...

    As the ICON has its notorious bugs

    And the HTC one m8 is going to be lacking some great Lumia exclusive stuff if those matter to you.

    I personally wouldn't choose the 730. I would go with the ICON or the M8 ,but I just wanted the 730 to have its mention. :)
    06-12-2015 04:12 PM
  10. Yazen's Avatar
    I agree with these choices.
    I'd pick the Samsung ATIV SE if it was by hardware design alone, but Samsung's support of it has been... poor, while both other phones have more of a future.
    Yeah, the SE was more of a "me too" play by Samsung. I wouldn't even trust the 1520 to get certain features post Windows 10 lol
    06-12-2015 09:15 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Yeah, the SE was more of a "me too" play by Samsung. I wouldn't even trust the 1520 to get certain features post Windows 10 lol
    The SE has 8.1 and will get Windows 10. What more can you wish for? I wish more people actually used this phone instead of ragging it based on hearsay. Even Daniel Rubino gave it high marks here on WC.
    06-12-2015 10:04 PM
  12. bo_woods's Avatar
    I think windows 10 will aesthetically make windows look much more suitable on devices such as the htc one and Samsung phones, as the current windows ui, due to having so many black or white backgrounds make it look unnatural on their phones...

    Lumia phones were made so perfectly to suit the windows UI
    06-12-2015 10:38 PM
  13. Yazen's Avatar
    The SE has 8.1 and will get Windows 10. What more can you wish for? I wish more people actually used this phone instead of ragging it based on hearsay. Even Daniel Rubino gave it high marks here on WC.
    Ativ SE looks, feels, and performs like a generic Galaxy S4, and it came out AFTER the S5. Less features, nothing particularly noteworthy... I tried the phone for a bit, and there's no way I'd consider it over the ICON.

    If the SE were Android based it would have no following.
    06-12-2015 10:43 PM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Ativ SE looks, feels, and performs like a generic Galaxy S4, and it came out AFTER the S5. Less features, nothing particularly noteworthy... I tried the phone for a bit, and there's no way I'd consider it over the ICON.

    If the SE were Android based it would have no following.

    1. Removable Battery.
    2. External Storage.
    3. IR Blaster.
    4. Faster Camera.


    That's four hardware features the Icon cannot match. Comparisons to Android devices would be even more unfavorable with Nokia devices so that's a non-factor. What exactly does the Lumia possess over the SE? Looks are subjective so let's keep that out.
    06-12-2015 11:11 PM
  15. bo_woods's Avatar
    1. Removable Battery.
    2. External Storage.
    3. IR Blaster.
    4. Faster Camera.


    That's four hardware features the Icon cannot match. Comparisons to Android devices would be even more unfavorable with Nokia devices so that's a non-factor. What exactly does the Lumia possess over the SE? Looks are subjective so let's keep that out.
    1.20 megapixel camera with Dual led flash, and OIS
    2.super sensitive touch
    3.Qi wireless charging
    4.SE has expandable storage but ICON has more already built in, 32gb
    5.4k recording & dynamic flash
    6.hey Cortana activation
    7. More microphones for Dolby surround sound recording

    Also Lumia Camera 5 with Denim are supposed to make the camera fast

    Here's a whole thread about this
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/sam...g-ativ-se.html

    Just some things off the top of my head :)
    06-13-2015 12:03 AM
  16. Yazen's Avatar
    1. Removable Battery.
    2. External Storage.
    3. IR Blaster.
    4. Faster Camera.


    That's four hardware features the Icon cannot match. Comparisons to Android devices would be even more unfavorable with Nokia devices so that's a non-factor. What exactly does the Lumia possess over the SE? Looks are subjective so let's keep that out.
    When people think of Windows Phone they think of Lumia. They may not compare favorably, however, they stand out amongst the white label and off shoot devices that plague the ecosystem.

    External storage is not unique to Samsung, neither is removable battery nor "faster" camera.

    IR blaster is rare these days, especially on Windows Phone. I prefer my logitech universal remote but I guess that's just me.
    06-13-2015 09:08 AM
  17. jz78817's Avatar
    I don't know if it's better on Verizon, but the ATIV S Neo I have on Sprint has basically been abandoned. No 8.1 w/o the Developer preview, and I haven't had any further updates in months.
    06-13-2015 10:24 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I don't know if it's better on Verizon, but the ATIV S Neo I have on Sprint has basically been abandoned. No 8.1 w/o the Developer preview, and I haven't had any further updates in months.
    The Sprint model got 8.1 before AT&T.

    Sprint rolls out Windows Phone 8.1 update to Samsung ATIV S Neo | Windows Central
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    06-13-2015 12:13 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    When people think of Windows Phone they think of Lumia. They may not compare favorably, however, they stand out amongst the white label and off shoot devices that plague the ecosystem.

    External storage is not unique to Samsung, neither is removable battery nor "faster" camera.

    IR blaster is rare these days, especially on Windows Phone. I prefer my logitech universal remote but I guess that's just me.
    HTC, Samsung, LG and Dell were onboard long before Nokia. I certainly don't consider them as white (private) labels. Samsung released the first WP7 devices, the first 7.5 (Mango) devices and the first WP8 devices. Currently, there are 3 major OEMs producing Windows Phones and 2 of the 3 have IR blasters, what's rare about that? If the public doesn't want to recognize that there are options for WP handsets, that's their problem. It's that "When people think of Windows Phone they think of Lumia" attitude that contributes to the stagnant growth of WP. Who can blame any of the other OEMs for not wanting to dedicate any effort into releasing handsets when they're behind the proverbial 8-ball. Samsung and LG are doing quite well with their Android phones so it's not like the brands are not well-received. The Galaxy S4 sold very well but the minute it morphed into a WP, all of a sudden it's a blah device that offers nothing. Gotta love that logic.
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    06-13-2015 12:24 PM
  20. 11B1P's Avatar
    As the ICON has its notorious bugs
    My ICON runs perfectly fine, so the bugs affect only certain handsets.

    Back to the OP's question, even the older 928 and 822 are cheap alternatives since it sounds like a WP is not your daily carry phone.
    06-13-2015 12:35 PM
  21. Yazen's Avatar
    HTC, Samsung, LG and Dell were onboard long before Nokia. I certainly don't consider them as white (private) labels. Samsung released the first WP7 devices, the first 7.5 (Mango) devices and the first WP8 devices. Currently, there are 3 major OEMs producing Windows Phones and 2 of the 3 have IR blasters, what's rare about that? If the public doesn't want to recognize that there are options for WP handsets, that's their problem. It's that "When people think of Windows Phone they think of Lumia" attitude that contributes to the stagnant growth of WP. Who can blame any of the other OEMs for not wanting to dedicate any effort into releasing handsets when they're behind the proverbial 8-ball. Samsung and LG are doing quite well with their Android phones so it's not like the brands are not well-received. The Galaxy S4 sold very well but the minute it morphed into a WP, all of a sudden it's a blah device that offers nothing. Gotta love that logic.
    White label phones, emphasizing phones. Big difference.

    How many Windows Phone 8 devices have IR blasters? How many do not?

    Ativ SE came out a few months after the GS5. Even against the GS4 it sucks. Of course sales are going to be stagnant.

    Ativ SE is a "me too" phone.
    06-13-2015 01:54 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    White label phones, emphasizing phones. Big difference.

    How many Windows Phone 8 devices have IR blasters? How many do not?
    Ativ SE came out a few months after the GS5. Even against the GS4 it sucks. Of course sales are going to be stagnant.

    Ativ SE is a "me too" phone.
    How can you say the Ativ SE sucks compared to the GS4? Other than the operating systems, both devices are the same.

    Samsung wasn't going to commit its resources toward building the Ativ SE with the GS5 hardware, since those resources were needed for the GS5, then Samsung's new flagship Android device. However, the general reviews of the GS4 were good, and most people didn't consider it a "meh" device.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    06-13-2015 02:08 PM
  23. Yazen's Avatar
    How can you say the Ativ SE sucks compared to the GS4? Other than the operating systems, both devices are the same.

    Samsung wasn't going to commit its resources toward building the Ativ SE with the GS5 hardware, since those resources were needed for the GS5, then Samsung's new flagship Android device. However, the general reviews of the GS4 were good, and most people didn't consider it a "meh" device.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    My point was that Windows Phone may be behind Android, however phones like the ICON are what bring attention to the platform. Not the SE, not the Quantum. Lumias make WP a feature, not a compromise. Just one of many examples, Samsung NX cameras cannot pair to the S/SE. With Samsung phones, WP is a compromise.

    Guess I am the only one who sees this correspondence, won't derail the topic further.
    06-13-2015 03:44 PM
  24. pankaj981's Avatar
    Umm this is going way out of topic

    @Op: Here are your options:

    High-end: Lumia Icon, HTC M8, Ativ SE
    Mid-spec: LG Lancet, Lumia 928, Lumia 822, HTC 8X, Lumia 73X (upcoming)
    06-13-2015 04:16 PM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Lumias make WP a feature, not a compromise.
    Sales numbers say otherwise. Nokia never had a following in the US and that perception hasn't changed. Even in Europe where they enjoyed their most success, it hasn't taken hold. Let's hope Microsoft branding works better.
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    06-13-2015 04:44 PM
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