09-22-2012 07:19 AM
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  1. Blackwood504's Avatar
    I found these "low light quality" videos using the Samsung Ativ S, Lumia 820 and 920 on youtube. I would suggest looking at them in full screen in 720p HD to see all the details. I also linked the Nikon D600 to compare them to a standalone camera...hope this helps.


    Samsung Ativ S
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-ra7m0_9NA?hd=1[/YT]


    Nokia Lumia 820
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPKKyJfAX1s?hd=1[/YT]


    Nokia Lumia 920
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sERJZ5KJHz0?hd=1[/YT]


    Nikon D600
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO6gQ37ZqjM?hd=1[/YT]
    09-21-2012 03:28 PM
  2. Adiliyo's Avatar
    just going by the still frames, the l920 looks pretty amazing. the detail in the thumb and hand is very good
    09-21-2012 04:16 PM
  3. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    Well it is a close battle between the ATIV s and the Lumia 920, but am I the only one to who sees the ATIV s superior when it comes to the colors?
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    09-21-2012 04:25 PM
  4. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    Well it is a close battle between the ATIV s and the Lumia 920, but am I the only one to who sees the ATIV s superior when it comes to the colors?
    I see what you're talking about. The only problem I see though is that the guy shot with the D600 in "movie mode", unless that's the only way it can take good low light video? In any case I'd like to see the comparison with the d600 in non-movie mode.

    I guess it depends though on how you like your colors. The Nokias seem to provide more of the HD handy cam coloring (not sure if you know what I mean).
    09-21-2012 04:35 PM
  5. power5's Avatar
    Even the Nikon starts out blue till he moves the light back to the wall to make more yellow saturation. Not sure why the pureview and Nikon do that. I thought the Ativ-s looked best. On relight the nokia looks more red and the ativ look very very yellow. Either option is decent at tripod video in low light it seems.
    09-21-2012 04:38 PM
  6. Blackwood504's Avatar
    The ending colors seem pretty close to me...but it looks like the 920 shows the most detial vs the Ativ S and the Nikon. The Nokia seems to show more red when the lighter first starts then equaling out vs the Ativ S starting more yellowish then equaling out.
    Last edited by Blackwood504; 09-21-2012 at 05:02 PM.
    09-21-2012 04:42 PM
  7. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    The ending colors seem pretty close to me...but it looks like the 920 shows the most detial vs the Ativ S and the Nikon. The Nokia seems to show more red when the lighter first starts then equaling out vs the Ativ S starting more yellowish then equaling out.
    On second view, you're right about the 920. It looks like it just edges out the Ativ S on detail. Compare

    As for coloring, that can be tweaked with firmware right?
    09-21-2012 05:10 PM
  8. palandri's Avatar
    Nice find Blackwood504!
    09-21-2012 05:10 PM
  9. mase123987's Avatar
    How reliable are these videos? We are all assuming the videos were taken by the device listed, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was. Not saying they are fake but considering the source is important.
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    09-21-2012 05:39 PM
  10. Blackwood504's Avatar
    On second view, you're right about the 920. It looks like it just edges out the Ativ S on detail. Compare

    As for coloring, that can be tweaked with firmware right?
    I think you can...not excatly sure...sounds like something Daniel would know more about, lol. I think you can only improve white balance and noise reduction but i'm just guessing.
    09-21-2012 05:39 PM
  11. Winterfang's Avatar
    ATIV looks well, crisp image and nice colors.
    820 terrible, bad colors and blurry image
    920 nice colors, blurry at first but focused rather nicely later.

    I believe the ATIV looks the best.
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    09-21-2012 05:42 PM
  12. Blackwood504's Avatar
    How reliable are these videos? We are all assuming the videos were taken by the device listed, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was. Not saying they are fake but considering the source is important.
    No, you are right...We really don't know what they were shot with, I can only say that the poster had many of the same types of "low light videos" with different phones and cameras. I think he had the LG Optimus G, Droid Razr something, Sonly Xperia something, etc. So there were different videos but there is no def. prof that it was from this phone or camera which is why I said "Hope this helps."
    09-21-2012 05:43 PM
  13. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    How reliable are these videos? We are all assuming the videos were taken by the device listed, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was. Not saying they are fake but considering the source is important.
    True, but let's assume that these videos are real until we can compare the cameras by ourselves, until then we are in the dark.
    09-21-2012 05:59 PM
  14. Big Supes's Avatar
    It would have been nice if they were all done at the same distance...
    09-21-2012 06:14 PM
  15. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    It would have been nice if they were all done at the same distance...
    I noticed that too, but the ATIV s shows a better performance from further than the Lumia 920 and I did not expect that! I thought Pureview was amazing in low light.
    09-21-2012 06:17 PM
  16. Big Supes's Avatar
    How reliable are these videos? We are all assuming the videos were taken by the device listed, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was. Not saying they are fake but considering the source is important.
    This is what I thought. The whole test just seems very amateurish. They should have validated the test by showing each device in the flesh, at least. This could have been done on one device with different settings.

    I have to say that these results conflict against all other picture tests I have seen. I call fake.
    09-21-2012 06:17 PM
  17. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    It would have been nice if they were all done at the same distance...
    Never mind its the opposite.
    09-21-2012 06:20 PM
  18. Big Supes's Avatar
    Never mind its the opposite.
    I thought I was going mad for a moment. :D
    09-21-2012 06:22 PM
  19. Blackwood504's Avatar
    I noticed that too, but the ATIV s shows a better performance from further than the Lumia 920 and I did not expect that! I thought Pureview was amazing in low light.
    Looking at the distance from the bottom of the red lighter to the bottom of the screen, the Ativ S seems to have the shorter distance which would make it closer.
    09-21-2012 06:29 PM
  20. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    I thought I was going mad for a moment. :D
    But I prefer the colors of the ATIV s, they are more realistic, but the Lumia has a nice quality a little better than the ATIVs.
    09-21-2012 08:06 PM
  21. Winterfang's Avatar
    But I prefer the colors of the ATIV s, they are more realistic, but the Lumia has a nice quality a little better than the ATIVs.
    A little better isn't cutting it. The 920 is supposed to be far and away better in low light. So either nokia is lying again or the videos are fake.
    09-21-2012 08:09 PM
  22. Reflexx's Avatar
    A little better isn't cutting it. The 920 is supposed to be far and away better in low light. So either nokia is lying again or the videos are fake.
    You do know that the advantages of OIS in low light only applies to still photos right?
    09-21-2012 08:25 PM
  23. tomatoes11's Avatar
    I honestly don't care about the camera or the video and I am quite confident about that the L920 will have the superior camera overall. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was close.

    I mean, you guys have only experienced the Focus, which is not a bad phone by any means, but it is a far cry from their top end. And when they use all of their manufacturing resources, they can compete with just about anyone.

    I have noticed a lot of shocked people but don't be surprised if the Ativ S takes a couple of rounds. Probably wont win the match but I am sure it will win some rounds.
    09-21-2012 08:29 PM
  24. Winterfang's Avatar
    You do know that the advantages of OIS in low light only applies to still photos right?
    I didn't knew that. Oh Nokia.
    09-21-2012 08:58 PM
  25. Reflexx's Avatar
    I didn't knew that. Oh Nokia.
    It's not an "oh Nokia" thing here.

    In this case it comes down to an understanding of what OIS is. OIS stabilizes an image. The low light quality is a direct result of the stabilization because it allows the shutter to train open longer, letting in more light.

    It would not apply to video because there isn't an exposure time on video. It's continuous.

    The tech was explained pretty clearly during the announcement.
    PG2G likes this.
    09-21-2012 09:23 PM
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