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  1. tom198's Avatar
    I've just written my 1st website with a nice drop down menu. It works great on desktops, via ie, Firefox. It works on iPads & iPhones. T works on every android mobile I can access. Basically it works on everything BUT WINDOWS MOBILE PHONES. bearing in mind there are millions & millions of website menus that use hover why can't Microsoft make their browser honor hover so that millions & millions of website owners don't have to fix a problem created by Microsoft going in a different direction to everyone else. Someone mentioned earlier that PE pole should stop visiting websites until they rewrite their websites to work on ie but I think differently and would say everyone should boycott ie until Microsoft fix the problem they have created.
    10-28-2013 04:42 PM
  2. AlexanderPD's Avatar
    looks like on Windows 8.1 and Windows RT 8.1 this is fixed. If we're lucky they will port this fix to Windows Phone 8.1 too :)
    10-29-2013 11:43 AM
  3. vishalbswami's Avatar
    Whenever i searching solutions for this problem I realised that this is very old problem of wp8 which is now 3 years old. What kind of support and updates can be expected from Microsoft in future. Recently we received 2 updates but this basic problem was not resolved by them. When this websites can be opened by low cost android phones then why it cant be opened by costly windows phones. Website developers will not update there websites for windows platform and why they have to do?



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    10-29-2013 01:15 PM
  4. gwinegarden's Avatar
    I have the same issue on my Playbook and it has 6 browsers (none as good as IE), so I think it is not the browser.
    10-29-2013 05:17 PM
  5. pantsaregood's Avatar
    It isn't "technically" the browser, as the browser is doing exactly what it is supposed to: leave the menu open if and only if the user's cursor is hovering over it. This is an issue with mobile devices, and a lot of mobile browsers have implemented "cheating" to avoid the undesired behavior of menus closing. Obviously, this needs to be fixed - I'm not excusing it as a "feature" or "not a problem," merely pointing out that it can't rightfully be considered a bug because the browser is rendering the page exactly as the standard implies it should, while other browsers actually render it in a way that deviates.
    10-29-2013 05:32 PM
  6. chike nwaozuzu's Avatar
    OH COMMON!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVEN GETTING MY KEYPAD ACTIVATED FOR THIS POST WAS HELL (using my Nokia Lumia1020)!!!! GUESS WHAT, I LOVE MY WINDOWS PHONE, BUT I USE MY CHEAP BLACKBERRY FOR BROWSING. HOW SO KIND OF MICROSOFT!!! I BEG YOU PLEEEEAAASEEE STOP ALL THE EXPLAINING AND GIVE YOUR USERS A USABLE BROWSER! By the way, I'm pissed that's why I'm shouting.
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    10-31-2013 07:28 PM
  7. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Seriously, what's the deal with these reply boxes. The keyboard doesn't stay up! Sometimes it does, but it's super unreliable. Anyone know a consistent method of keeping it up?
    10-31-2013 07:47 PM
  8. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Anyone know a consistent method of keeping it up?
    Viagra? :)

    Seriously though, what I do is "go advanced" then tap on the title box, which should bring the keyboard up where it'll stay, then long press the body box until the cursor appears and then the keyboard stays up.
    10-31-2013 08:10 PM
  9. chike nwaozuzu's Avatar
    Good luck with spreading the good news
    11-04-2013 07:33 AM
  10. Jay Sandifer's Avatar
    I made the switch from iPhone to W8 phone when the Lumia 920 was released. I noticed this problem within a few days and just assumed it would be fixed soon. Now it appears that not only are they ignoring a year old problem, it's actually a legacy problem that's been around more than a year.

    Any suggestions on how we, as consumers, get this fixed? It sounds silly, but this is actually a problem that would make me switch phones. 90% of the time it's a non issue and I love my phone. But it's that 10% of the time and always seems to be when I'm in a hurry to do something and I'm "on the go". So far I've kept it because I love Xbox Music, but it's time to renew Xbox music next month and I'm unsure.
    11-11-2013 07:34 AM
  11. a5cent's Avatar
    There is no "fix" MS can make. At best, MS can break IE, so all mobile browsers are equally broken. If everyone would focus their anger at the web site developers, say, by regularly calling and mailing them, that would be much more helpful than complaining about MS here.

    As mentioned in a few threads already, you can test any web page with this free online webpage-scanner from MS. If it shows problems, the web page needs fixing, and it's a good idea to let the company know.
    11-11-2013 10:12 AM
  12. Larry Grenon's Avatar
    To state that MS is not at fault for drop down menu issues and a host of other issues is hogwash. As a web developer I test my sites in every browser and device under the sun to make sure they work. Sites that worked just fine with IE8 and 9 suddenly don't work when IE10 was introduced. They continue to work on all updates of Chrome, Firefox, Safari on both Macs and PCs. If that isn't MS's fault, I don't know what is.
    11-17-2013 08:20 PM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    To state that MS is not at fault for drop down menu issues and a host of other issues is hogwash. As a web developer I test my sites in every browser and device under the sun to make sure they work. Sites that worked just fine with IE8 and 9 suddenly don't work when IE10 was introduced. They continue to work on all updates of Chrome, Firefox, Safari on both Macs and PCs. If that isn't MS's fault, I don't know what is.
    As a developer of any kind, you should know that such reasoning is hogwash. Possibly a bug in earlier versions of IE allowed your pages to work when they never should have, and IE10 corrected that. Possibly IE10 improved its detection of "quirky" web pages, causing IE10 to detect more imperfect pages and render them (including yours) in compatibility mode (known to handle drop down boxes and touch input differently). My point is, since you obviously don't understand the problem, you can't assign fault.

    I'm not a web developer, but there are a lot of tech support sites on the web where web developers seem to be complaining about exactly this issue. Those that I looked at all ended by having the developer go back and fix their web page. None concluded by stating the problem was unsolvable, because it's down to a bug in IE. I won't rule that out, as I'm sure IE10 has bugs just like any other piece of software, but so far I see no evidence of this being one.

    Make of it what you will.
    11-17-2013 10:33 PM
  14. Corgalore's Avatar
    This issue is not a bug in IE people. Apple hacked mobile Safari in order to hijack hover events and forward them to the click/tap event handler. They should have implemented proper tap event handlers like Microsoft did. I admit it causes some usability headaches, but so did the lack of Flash when Apple first decided to chuck it from iOS.

    iOS Safari == The Next IE6
    12-12-2013 03:23 PM
  15. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    This issue is not a bug in IE people. Apple hacked mobile Safari in order to hijack hover events and forward them to the click/tap event handler. They should have implemented proper tap event handlers like Microsoft did. I admit it causes some usability headaches, but so did the lack of Flash when Apple first decided to chuck it from iOS.

    iOS Safari == The Next IE6
    In what way is the windows phone implementation better? Microsoft should "hack" IE the same way Apple does with Safari. Not being able to hover makes using the browser very inconvenient. But from what some people are saying above, IE11 has fixed this behavior in 8.1. If so, I'm hopeful this will be fixed in WP8.1 in a couple months as well.
    12-12-2013 05:08 PM
  16. JaiMento's Avatar
    Try Walmart.com: Save money. Live better.

    Over at the left, if you click "Electronics & Office" or any of these, once you hold long enough for the pull down to appear, as soon as you move over to click one, it goes away.

    I'm seeing comments about lots of other sites as well with this problem.
    WalMart does have a mobile version of their site that might work better for you (though, I have just checked out their mobile site and it isn't very good). Either way, if you don't want to use the mobile site, at the end of the list of departments, there is a link for "See All Departments". Click that and you will get a list of all the departments on that page, with each sub-department listed below it.
    12-12-2013 05:14 PM
  17. NeilWkz's Avatar
    Yeah this situation's tricky... I'm a web developer (and I use a lumia 920). It is correct that apple decided to map tap events to hover because it mean that a standard CSS dropdown menu will work out of the box (So did Android & Blackberry). Technically speaking microsoft's new approach is better, you have to add a setting aria-haspopup="true" to the parent link to get it to work with windows phone.. Simple huh? Obviously it's the web dev's fault. Unfortunately not, if you use aria-haspopup="true" it then breaks the dropdown menus on IE8, in the last year 10% of traffic comes from IE8 (I don't like those people as they make my job harder, but they exist).
    So up until now It's had to be a judgement call on whether to let Older users see the dropdown, or IE8 users see the dropdown. The latest stats for market share show that Windows phone is now around 10% and IE8 is dropping off, so you'll start to see menus working more and more.
    I can't help feeling this was bloody mindedness on behalf of MS. Why they couldn't just map the tap event to hover like every other mobile platform.
    But that is the story of Microsofts browser team, they make odd choices.
    01-07-2014 04:43 AM
  18. vinscg's Avatar
    completely zoom out , you will be able to access the drop down menu, i am wp8 HTC 8X GDR3
    walmart.com one is easy to access, on infowars.com its a bit tricky
    01-07-2014 06:53 AM
  19. kabinsons1's Avatar
    Now my browser is not working properly, it is why I don't know. I hold my menu 10 sec then my drop down appears but not properly. I continue my board express. Thanks a lot for giving such a information.
    I also find my browser at HERE.
    09-23-2017 03:46 PM
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