IE's UI is great. The browser itself... SUCKS.

[iPwnza]

Roblox, wow. That's the first time I've actually heard it mentioned outside of my 9 year-old stepson's bedroom. We even took him to the Roblox convention in Nor Cal a couple of months back.

Off-topic, I know.

I'm very famous on it, only reason I still use it!

 

[iamtim]

I'm very famous on it, only reason I still use it!

Oh yeah? Same user name? I'll run it by my step-son, see if he recognizes you.

 

[Slai]

Desktop version. A reason to get a big screen phone ^^ .

 

[a5cent]

Xpress is WebKit.

Not that I've programmed it, but Xpress reports that it is based on Geko, not WebKit. That is the same rendering engine used by Firefox.

 

[brmiller1976]

Humph... Interesting. The version for the X6 reports as Webkit...

 

[iPwnza]

I'm very famous on it, only reason I still use it!

No, my username is SilentSwords. I'm generally more popular with some of the older ROBLOX players because i'm a clan leader.
ROBLOX.com

 

[a5cent]

Humph... Interesting. The version for the X6 reports as Webkit...

That is very strange indeed, but also very interesting. A lot could be read into such a switch. Anything to avoid being counted as yet another webkit browser on the mobile web perhaps? That is certainly also in Nokia's interest.

I tested this on my Lumia 800 with WP7.5, not WP8, just to be clear.

 

[Koato8]

IE10 is fast as light for me, no problems so far.

 

[lfjj]

I like it but it seems a bit choppy doesn't it? When loading sites especially and sometimes when scrolling, some kind of checkerboard appears or flickers.

 

[eric12341]

It's because the developers of the site are coding it with webkit in mind. IE 9 and 10 are perfectly standards compliant and desktop sites run flawlessly, so try the full site until they fix the mobile site for WP.

 

[ImAdrian23]

Why do you blame the browser when the problem is obviously the webpage itself...

 

[socialcarpet]

Why do you blame the browser when the problem is obviously the webpage itself...

Because it would be far easier for Microsoft to just make a WebKit compliant browser, or allow/encourage the development of one for Windows Phone than it will be to try and convince every web developer to make their SD sites recognize Windows phone and work correctly with its Trident browser.

 

[a5cent]

Because it would be far easier for Microsoft to just make a WebKit compliant browser, or allow/encourage the development of one for Windows Phone than it will be to try and convince every web developer to make their SD sites recognize Windows phone and work correctly with its Trident browser.

Yes, just as it would have been easier for Lincoln to surrender than fight the American civil war. Sometimes it is worth sticking up for principles, even if not everyone understands or agrees with them.

 

[brmiller1976]

That is very strange indeed, but also very interesting. A lot could be read into such a switch. Anything to avoid being counted as yet another webkit browser on the mobile web perhaps? That is certainly also in Nokia's interest.

I tested this on my Lumia 800 with WP7.5, not WP8, just to be clear.

Are we testing the same thing? I'm looking at the user agent for the Symbian Nokia X browser.

 

[brmiller1976]

Because it would be far easier for Microsoft to just make a WebKit compliant browser, or allow/encourage the development of one for Windows Phone than it will be to try and convince every web developer to make their SD sites recognize Windows phone and work correctly with its Trident browser.

That would also open up Microsoft ecosystems to all the vulnerabilities in webkit browsers, including the exploit that allows a remote exploit to gain full system-level access to the device.

 

[a5cent]

Are we testing the same thing? I'm looking at the user agent for the Symbian Nokia X browser.

I think we are.

I am testing the Nokia Xpress for Lumia (beta) browser on my Lumia 800, WP7.5. I type in the URL www.useragentstring.com and this is what it reports:

Mozilla/5.0 (Series40; Nokia311/05.60; Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) Gecko/20100401 S40OviBrowser/1.8.0.50.5

 

[a5cent]

Because it would be far easier for Microsoft to just make a WebKit compliant browser, or allow/encourage the development of one for Windows Phone than it will be to try and convince every web developer to make their SD sites recognize Windows phone and work correctly with its Trident browser.

And one more thing, hopefully for the last time... Microsoft doesn't need to convince anyone to explicitly recognize Windows Phone or the Trident browser. Websites need only be standards compliant. That isn't too much to ask, and it is the right thing to do.

 

[brmiller1976]

I will have to c-n-p the string from the Symbian browser when I next fire up my X6.