Does WP8 support Quad Core already?

[Technoloay]

Qualcomm outs WP8-loving quad- core Snapdragon 400 with LTE - GSMArena.com news

Does this mean that WP8 supports Quad Core in its current state? Or the chip is made for the future update of WP8?

 

[martinmc78]

There was a rumour at launch that WP8 is pretty future proof being able to support more than octa-core.

 

[neo158]

The NT kernel that powers WP8 is the same one used by Windows 8 and Windows RT meaning that WP8 supports a maximum of 64 cores, I would say that makes Windows Phone future proof!!!

 

[Technoloay]

Thanks. Then why didn't they launch any Quad core windows phones till now (and most probably till the winter?) :/

 

[Andre o Botelho]

The first thing I thought when first saw the Snapdragon 600 was "Wow!!!! Really powerfull windows phones!!!", but this now is a bad new, four Cortex A7? Let it remains in two Krait...

 

[neo158]

Thanks. Then why didn't they launch any Quad core windows phones till now (and most probably till the winter?) :/

Because Windows Phone doesn't need all the horsepower that Android does, it runs perfectly fine on a single core processor. The problem is that Android has made people believe the more powerful hardware is a good thing, which is not the case with Windows Phone.

Having the NT kernel at the heart of Windows Phone makes it more scalable in the long term, this means that MS can take their time on the hardware side.

 

[Vb2012]

Because Windows Phone doesn't need all the horsepower that Android does, it runs perfectly fine on a single core processor. The problem is that Android has made people believe the more powerful hardware is a good thing, which is not the case with Windows Phone.

Having the NT kernel at the heart of Windows Phone makes it more scalable in the long term, this means that MS can take their time on the hardware side.

so you don't like having options i see, by the way he was referring to tht -_-

 

[Andre o Botelho]

Because Windows Phone doesn't need all the horsepower that Android does, it runs perfectly fine on a single core processor. The problem is that Android has made people believe the more powerful hardware is a good thing, which is not the case with Windows Phone.

Having the NT kernel at the heart of Windows Phone makes it more scalable in the long term, this means that MS can take their time on the hardware side.

I really think people saying this work for MS.

 

[neo158]

so you don't like having options i see, by the way he was referring to tht -_-

I was wondering when you might show up, you really don't disappoint, do you?

How do you get that conclusion from what I said. Nothing on Windows Phone NEEDS the extra horsepower that quad core or higher gives you.

I suppose you would be the first to run out and buy a 64 core phone with a 60MP camera!!!!

 

[neo158]

I really think people saying this work for MS.

Really, I work for MS do I?

Just because I explained to someone why quad core Windows Phones aren't available I'm immediately an employee of Microsoft!!!!!

 

[hopmedic]

I really think people saying this work for MS.

No. I don't. Fact is that Android needs the horsepower to stay responsive (and still fails), while Windows Phone does not.

 

[Delin95]

Why do people keep complaining about this. The iPhone uses a dualcore processor and I don't here the iSheep complain.

 

[AlexOwliver]

Off topic I guess, but I always find that super interesting Delin. . .the pros of WP are more in line (I'd think) with iOS (design, ease of use, "it just works") than Android, yet Android is the OS that is constantly used as a goalpost for WP. Didn't the latest Kantar numbers show by correlation that WP is eating share away from iOS, not Android, in the US?

To throw my 2c in ON topic, I believe that while the kernel supports up to 64 cores, significant work needs to be done on the software side to optimize for the actual QCOMM chips.

 

[hopmedic]

Off topic I guess, but I always find that super interesting Delin. . .the pros of WP are more in line (I'd think) with iOS (design, ease of use, "it just works") than Android, yet Android is the OS that is constantly used as a goalpost for WP. Didn't the latest Kantar numbers show by correlation that WP is eating share away from iOS, not Android, in the US?

I don't pay a lot of attention to the numbers, as numbers can say whatever they want them to say, and without the raw data, it's hard to tell sometimes what's really happening. Dad always said, "Figures lie and liars figure..." so..... :wink: But what I did read is that all three are growing, WP the fastest, iOS next, and Android third. But that's by percentage, I believe, not raw numbers. So again, if you want to compare raw numbers, you will get a completely different result.

Anyway, I actually convinced my boss to get an iPhone last fall, and get rid of his Android. We work in a bank, and he does bank things on his phone. My bone to pick isn't that someone picks one phone over Windows Phone, but the lack of security, and the false sense of security that people have in their phones. Apple and Microsoft both test apps, and have tight controls over what goes out. Google, not so much. This is the core of my anti-Android message.

We need competition to spawn innovation. If you don't want a Windows Phone, get an Apple in my book. But given what I know about security, I cannot endorse Android, and all of my friends know that I call it, lovingly (or not), "Virus Phone."

 

[Technoloay]

In my opinion, I'd want a quad core in my windows phone if and only if it was accompanied by an 808-like Pureview camera. I don't want the latter to happen with a reduced output just because the processor can't handle it (Lumia 925 with Smart Cam app that uses only 5 Mpx anyone?)

 

[James8561]

"The Snapdragon 400 itself is comprised of four Cortex-A7 CPU cores each clocked at 1.2GHz."
I never got the logic of using many weak, slow cores over few strong, fast cores. IPC is still king, esp more so in the limited-multitasking environment of mobile. i'd take the current S4 Plus over 400 anyday seeing as how Krait is only a bit slower than Cortex-A15

Snapdragon 600 would be a more reasonable upgrade and would put WP even with the top of Android

 

[jfa1]

so you don't like having options i see, by the way he was referring to tht -_-

No his point was that that a dual core Krait was preferable speed wise to a quad core A7Cotex in hi opinion. He's entitled to his opinion!

 

[Kevin N Smith]

No. I don't. Fact is that Android needs the horsepower to stay responsive (and still fails), while Windows Phone does not.

The reason people say this is because they have never seen a quad core WP. Imagine apps loading instantly, instead of seeing "loading..." or "resuming...". Or imagine how much better WP games would be...

 

[foxbat121]

CPU cores are hardly the cause of those slow downs (slow flash memory used in the phone is). What quad-core can offer is better gaming. Most apps don't need it. What it also tags along is more power consumption. So, the OS needs to be optimized further to shutdown or slow down those cores that are not needed.

 

[Pega5u5]

doenst this chipset also opens the posibility for dual sim? i'd love a dual sim Windows phone from Nokia...