You must know that a clock in the upper right is not based on the internet or some external data.
I think that its all about options. Why should Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc. dictate what's good for me and my device. Some people like the delay in push notifications for battery sake but for someone like me that likes to have my info in real time then let the user make that choice. Don't restrict me. This one of the beauties of Android, you can choose the frequency of updates on most apps. My Note 2 and SGS4 Active last the same or better than my L1020 even with all real time info enabled. They are bigger devices with bigger batteries but they have bigger batteries to compensate for the OS and Apps. The people here that say "oh, that's why Android lags soo much" well, my L1020 lags just as much as Android Jelly Bean 4.2.2. And the lag is pretty minimal on my devices. Microsoft needs to get off their *** and listen to their customers. Apple did with the up coming iOS 7 and their true multitasking is going to be a very welcoming upgrade to that platform and I guarantee will bring some users back to iOS. Microsoft needs to follow suite. I'm glade I don't pay for these devices and I'm glad I'm fortunate enough to play around with all platforms to know how each interact. Android is not perfect but IMO offers the most flexibility in a Smartphone OS. WP8 definitely has potential lets just hope Microsoft listens to their customers.
So could it be the ONLY one i have left in background tasks, Weather Flow, that it's causing the drain every 10 days or so? So i have to give even that one up? How is that even a justification i don't know.. I'm no programmer, but I won't believe that the OS can't have some 'firewall' or something, that can tell the difference beatween wanted battery drain (me actually using an app) and process, background task getting stuck?
Sorry Chmar, you've made sense and had good points up until now, but now you just talk nonsense sorry.. What viruses on Android? Nevery had them in 3 years. UAC? The thing that asks me if i'm sure i want to minimize the window? C'mon now..
Not necessarily. You'll notice that some of your apps don't show up in the background tasks list unless you go to 'advanced'. Those can activate an agent without your ability to control blocking it from there. You MAY be able to go into that app and turn it off if they have an option, but some don't.
seriously, what are you talking about. We are talking about notifications here. Android lets you control them how you like it, you know it gives me options. iOS 7 lets apps continue to notify and update in real time, I have a dev copy on my iPad. MS sticksyou with crap restricted push notifications. Even the little back door work around don't always work for the devs. Additionally, my response is not a "how I love android" response its just a comparison from my experience. The amount of lag and battery drain is due to the amount of crap you put on your device. My first week with 1020 lagged a bunch cuz I was installing a bunch of to see what was good. Now that I have it the way I want it it runs smooth same for my Android and iOS devices.It never about the options. Having all the options in the world resulted in windows being number one target for viruses(users where lame and clinged to the "option" stuff and refused to make limited accounts, all of them were running rampant with admin privileges that windows was paradise for viruses). Users can't make choice without education and they don't care actually because they are lazy and don't really want security. You must push security by force as history showed(UAC from windows Vista that still a lot of users were disabling the features because the security limited their "option" to get infected).
The new IOS 7 still does not have true multitasking. It's the same hat with different paint on it but as usual the apple did manage to market it as a feature. Android Jelly Bean 4.2.2 lags more than L 1020 (seen it after 1 week of usage by average educated user who installed all the crap in the world).
MS does listen to customers but again they learned from the past that security must be imposed by force(the UAC example not to mention the way users were using windows xp). Seams that people forget that the last batman game on android has permission to kill all other apps and services just to keep the framerate. This should not be allowed on a device you claim to be secure. People forget that android is the only really personal device you carry everywhere with you that needs an antivirus. People forget the security experiment on android when an app disguise as a game stole and bought on amazon without users knowing. People not living in rusia forget about the real theft of money from users on android devices. People forget that apps like instagram are allowed on android to see what app you are using, what apps you are running and how often you run them.
Listening is one thing. Allowing users to suppress the concept of security because they are lazy and gaining a reputation of a bad and insecure product mostly because of users is another thing.
seriously, what are you [ChMar] talking about. We are talking about notifications here. Android lets you control them how you like it, you know it gives me options. iOS 7 lets apps continue to notify and update in real time, I have a dev copy on my iPad. MS sticksyou with crap restricted push notifications. Even the little back door work around don't always work for the devs. Additionally, my response is not a "how I love android" response its just a comparison from my experience. The amount of lag and battery drain is due to the amount of crap you put on your device. My first week with 1020 lagged a bunch cuz I was installing a bunch of to see what was good. Now that I have it the way I want it it runs smooth same for my Android and iOS devices
Maybe live tiles should start updating only after the device is unlocked (show a "refreshing" animation on the affected live tiles) and only while the user is on the start screen? Maybe we should be able to shake our smartphone (or use some other gesture), causing it to update all live tiles? I don't know what the best solution is, but there are certainly many possibilities beyond just letting apps do whatever they want whenever they want.
what I'm saying is: if I want to fry my phone's battery and eat away my data plan by having Tiles update themselves every second, I should have that freedom, simple as that.
People, i've had Clock widget, weather widget and one time a battery percentage widget on the home page of my ancient Android (HTC Wildfire), and none had any influence on the battery. It lasted me aproximately 3 days.
Look for percentage of android malware on google or bing or whatever. See how you dismiss the UAC . Everyone does this. Today viruses are not like 1980 viruses that deleted your files or block your computer from running. And seriously look for that article on the security experiment where an malware in disguise was able to buy in user name from amazon. I know it sounds crazy but is all real and I believe that if you spend 10 minutes looking for it you will find all the info you need. The batman and instagram examples are exactly my point on how legit apps (legit meaning apps by big companies) have more power over your device than they should be allowed.
If you are up for the challenge allow me 3 days to make an android app (game or what you like) and allow me to by myself something from amazon. And I will show you how easy it is to abuse of your money. Or just allow me to post on your facebook account that I own you
The point is that people using WP shouldn't have to worry about such possibilities. At least that is the stated goal.
Don't be silly, you only get Android viruses by pirating applications.
Google has done a great job at cleaning up the play store and has some strong checks in place to prevent malware.
The point is i've had 3 extreme drainages in like 40 days with that bulletproof restriction.. Before someone else say it's a hardware issue, just don't, look closely on this forum, or the web..