09-03-2013 08:54 AM
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  1. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    After lots of tests on Amber with/without Gland, ditto Triple Touch (or, more) and compare to no Glance, no TT, here is the bottom line:

    Both features on use almost exactly double the power of the old pre-Amber phone.

    I've not yet gotten consistent consumption results on Amber with both features off. Don't know why.

    Note: No animals were harmed in this process. All tests were done predicated on at least three hours of standby after full charge. Wifi always on, no BT. No phone, SMS, or location services on. Your Mileage Will Definitely Vary....a lot, when you fully use the phone.
    08-30-2013 10:52 AM
  2. Jason Drum's Avatar
    My battery life got much better with Amber and I have glance set to peek. What is triple touch?
    Soyeb Mullick likes this.
    08-30-2013 12:13 PM
  3. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    My battery life got much better with Amber and I have glance set to peek. What is triple touch?
    My snark for what is supposed by be Double Tap. For me, not too often.
    08-30-2013 02:17 PM
  4. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    "Hidden in Plain Sight Forehead Slapping Update":

    Before Amber, I had deleted many of the built in apps. It never occurred to me that they were back and running.

    Based on someone's comments in a related thread, I went to Settings, then sideways to Applications, where there is Background Tasks.

    I was astounded at how many apps were running back there. Games, which I never, ever care about. Gas Buddy, I installed it once, tested, and there it was still running two weeks later. For each app that I didn't want running, I opted for "Block". You can still start up and use your app, it just won't run it in the background after you close it. I also stopped the Live Tile for CNN, it's so slow world peace could break out before it flips again.

    I reset my battery monitor, and after a few hours, my consumption is....................1.06% per hour!!!!

    So, run your Glance (mine is set for 24 hrs a day) and your Triple Tap, but turn off those background apps!
    08-30-2013 02:26 PM
  5. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    FURTHER ILLOGICAL BATTERY METER FACTS

    I charged up the battery, disconnected the charger, and soon went to bed. I got up and checked the battery data. It was down to 93%. I found a discharge rate of 2.1%/hr, and a time to run of 1 day, 13? hours. Then I did a cognitive double take. Wait! If the discharge rate was, call it, 2%/hr, I should have been down to about 80% remaining. And conversely, if I was down 7% in 9.5 hours, I should have a discharge rate of .73%/hr and a complete emptying on standby of 53 hours. (Once again, the caveat is that this is a 2500mah battery.)

    So, (as he throws his hands up in the air), the new bottom line is, "Who the hell knows what's going on? If you can't get a consistency in your battery app, why bother? Shut off all those background apps, don't worry, be happy."
    WanderingTraveler likes this.
    08-31-2013 09:03 AM
  6. Geddeeee's Avatar
    Stop worrying about battery discharge rates and use your phone. Too many threads and posts about this. Enough already!!!!!
    mrdeeds_72 likes this.
    08-31-2013 09:16 AM
  7. icstars989's Avatar
    Stop worrying about battery discharge rates and use your phone. Too many threads and posts about this. Enough already!!!!!
    lol, hate to burst your bubble champ, but a lot of us don't have the benefit of living life from our bedrooms in our parents house.

    Some of us are actually out and about or take trains, heck some even fly in airplanes, so a charger isn't readily available. To these people, large unknown drains on the battery are kind of a big deal.

    This could be real easy for you, if you see a battery thread, don't bother stopping by, simple enough?
    Ankmeyester and deadwrong03 like this.
    08-31-2013 09:30 AM
  8. Geddeeee's Avatar
    I'm 48 with a family. My battery life is excellent, and I use my 920 for work and home. I've read constant threads about the same thing. They seem to all fixate on battery percentage rates and discharge ratios. Never had a problem since WP7 either. Either I have been lucky, or I know how to use the WP OS correctly.... I think my second answer is correct... Thank YOU for stopping by!!!
    08-31-2013 11:40 AM
  9. icstars989's Avatar
    If you happen to use it right then MS really failed at making an OS. There shouldn't be a right\wrong way to use it, but I digress.

    I also don't always have an issue with battery life, once in awhile though it will drain a very significant amount in no time at all and from seemingly doing nothing. I like browsing through here seeing if a common ground has been found. If not, no big deal. If its a large issue though it will never get fixed if people don't say anything.
    08-31-2013 11:56 AM
  10. gwinegarden's Avatar
    If you happen to use it right then MS really failed at making an OS. There shouldn't be a right\wrong way to use it, but I digress..
    As someone who spent 45 years in software development, including many working in operating systems performance analysis, I can assure you that you are very wrong.
    08-31-2013 03:23 PM
  11. Guzzler3's Avatar
    The problem is some of us have ended up with a dead phone, because of some run away process/app. Previously, I could put my fully charged phone down, over night, and pick it up in the morning and use it the next day without an issue.

    Now I've run into where I can do the same thing (unplugged, fully charged, over night), but in the morning, the battery is completely drained and the phone won't turn on. Looking at the discharge rate from a battery app, shows steady discharge.

    Some thing has changed since the GDR2/Amber update. I need some sort diagnostic app, process viewer, log viewer, what ever, to figure out what's going on.
    08-31-2013 03:45 PM
  12. icstars989's Avatar
    As someone who spent 45 years in software development, including many working in operating systems performance analysis, I can assure you that you are very wrong.
    We use what we are given within the confined walls of what is WP8. We can only use it within the specified predetermined manner. There is no wrong way. Are there ways that use more battery? Absolutely, but that's not a wrong way. Sorry, you won't convince me there is a wrong way to use my phone.
    08-31-2013 06:25 PM
  13. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    Stop worrying about battery discharge rates and use your phone. Too many threads and posts about this. Enough already!!!!!
    Just trying to find patterns, logical answers to puzzles. Everyone wants to run many days on a charge, it's one's constitutional right, right? :)

    A few years ago with a "new" Android, battery sucking down 16 hours or less, it turned out that the beautiful galaxy image on active something or other kept the CPU cranking.

    It doesn't hurt to tweatk and tune to one's needs.
    08-31-2013 07:07 PM
  14. Guzzler3's Avatar
    Oh this just sucks. This just happened.

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    08-31-2013 07:59 PM
  15. Boris Lozac's Avatar
    On idle or you've played a game for 5 hours?
    08-31-2013 08:04 PM
  16. Guzzler3's Avatar
    I played some music for 20 minutes in the car, which the phone was being charged during that time. Otherwise IDLE, doing nothing but being in my pocket.
    08-31-2013 08:12 PM
  17. Huime's Avatar
    dude that list shows you which app is allowed to run in the background, not currently run in the background...
    WanderingTraveler likes this.
    08-31-2013 10:55 PM
  18. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Okay, here are my observations.

    I've spent the last two days testing out the BL-4J battery on my Lumia 620, on GDR2+Amber.

    The first 24 hours were with Glance turned on, at least 12 hours with it flipped upside-down. Light usage throughout the day. A few hours of music, some texts and calls, some video-playing, no airplane mode, brightness set to low, no battery saver.
    The battery ended up going down to 58%.

    The last 21 hours have gone by, practically the same usage, but with Glance turned off, and brightness set to auto.
    The battery is currently at 46%.

    That says a lot.
    Boris Lozac likes this.
    09-01-2013 05:24 AM
  19. realwarder's Avatar
    Oh this just sucks. This just happened.

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    Same app includes a battery discharge warning. Enable it and you will know to reboot your phone. Crap, yes, but better than a dead battery.
    09-01-2013 08:21 AM
  20. MyNL822's Avatar
    I never get an accurate representation of my battery life because the settings and my favorite battery app both just show some crazy 5-7% discharge rate even when I'm not using phone much. After 1-1 1/2 hours of listening to music in still at 100% and usually during classes for another hour of not using it im on 100% while it still say 5-7% per hour. I end the school day with around 85-90% depending if I played games on the bus him from school(only listen to music in morning because to tired for games.) I also use battery saver the whole day, and just want to know if the inaccurate discharge rate is just me.
    09-01-2013 10:15 AM
  21. deadwrong03's Avatar
    "Hidden in Plain Sight Forehead Slapping Update":



    Before Amber, I had deleted many of the built in apps. It never occurred to me that they were back and running.



    Based on someone's comments in a related thread, I went to Settings, then sideways to Applications, where there is Background Tasks.



    I was astounded at how many apps were running back there. Games, which I never, ever care about. Gas Buddy, I installed it once, tested, and there it was still running two weeks later. For each app that I didn't want running, I opted for "Block". You can still start up and use your app, it just won't run it in the background after you close it. I also stopped the Live Tile for CNN, it's so slow world peace could break out before it flips again.



    I reset my battery monitor, and after a few hours, my consumption is....................1.06% per hour!!!!



    So, run your Glance (mine is set for 24 hrs a day) and your Triple Tap, but turn off those background apps!



    how did u reset ur battery monitor? I'm getting a 20% discharge rate I only have 3 apps running in the background and signed into Skype I get roughly 3-5 hours with moderate to heavy usahge and that's with or without being logged into Skype





    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 928 using Tapatalk
    09-01-2013 03:33 PM
  22. Ferazzz's Avatar
    Wish I can also figure out if my Lumia 1020 is defective or that's just the way it works. On idle it seems okay and discharge rate is normal wIth glance turned on. I,use peek. What really bothers me about my,device is when I actually begin using it moderately the battery just discharges so much fast than my 920 its,scary. I can take a couple if pictures and send a couple of texts and in 6-7 min of usage be down already 5-7%. Jesus man is that normal to you guys.
    Brightness on auto
    5 background tasks (2 less than my 920)
    Location off
    Screen time out at 30sec
    Emails are in push mode
    Double tap to wake off
    Glance mode on in peek
    09-01-2013 05:24 PM
  23. Guzzler3's Avatar
    Same app includes a battery discharge warning. Enable it and you will know to reboot your phone. Crap, yes, but better than a dead battery.
    I missed the alert when it went off. But, I have done a reboots, and it continues to drain the battery.
    09-01-2013 06:15 PM
  24. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    how did u reset ur battery monitor? I'm getting a 20% discharge rate I only have 3 apps running in the background and signed into Skype I get roughly 3-5 hours with moderate to heavy usahge and that's with or without being logged into Skype





    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 928 using Tapatalk
    You have to move from the graphical screen to the text data? screen. And there, you can reset.
    09-01-2013 11:21 PM
  25. chmun77's Avatar
    Does the battery monitor apps really help to monitor the battery or they are draining the battery more instead? I really have doubts about all these battery apps. In the first place, they are already listed as background apps and this will sure to add to the load of the battery even if it is only 30mins intervals, no?
    09-02-2013 12:40 AM
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