03-15-2014 04:12 AM
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  1. DropPass's Avatar
    Hi all!

    Maybe someone can enlighten me on what I was doing wrong here:

    I created a file (.PDF) on my home computer that I needed printed on card stock and in color. So after putting the new .PDF file in SkyDrive, I headed on down to my local FedEx Office store with my Lumia 920 in hand.

    Thinking this would be an easy process, I walked up to the counter and told them what I needed. I assumed they would want me to e-mail the file to them. This was an accurate assumption. I figured... "no problem"! I have the file in SkyDrive, I can open up SkyDrive and e-mail it to them from there! Unfortunately, this appears to be much easier said than done.

    I first logged into the SkyDrive app on my phone. Their WiFi was seriously slow, so it took forever!!! I found the file I was looking for. Unfortunately the only thing that I could seem to do as far as e-mailing the file was to send them a link to the shared file. Not what I wanted. So, I download the file from SkyDrive to my phone so I could open it in the PDF app. Worked fine.

    I then figured since the file was now downloaded to my phone, I would be able to create a new e-mail with my Outlook account and e-mail the file to them. I opened up the Outlook app and created a new e-mail only to discover that it will only let you add photos as attachments. WTF? Same with using my other e-mail accounts through my phone. So I then decided to log into the Outlook web site from my phone to attach and e-mail the file that way. After waiting FOREVER for the Outlook web page to come up I was finally able to create a new e-mail. BUT, I could find no attachment option in the Outlook mobile web page!!!

    My last option was to use a USB cable to download the file from my phone to one of their computers, but I didn't have one and neither did they. So, I ended up having to "rent" one of their machines so I could log into my SkyDrive account, download the file to that machine and then e-mail it off to them. Sadly, I had to use my g-mail account as I kept getting an error every time I tried attaching the file through my Outlook account. Grrrrr.....

    Anyway... I consider myself to be a pretty savvy tech guy thanks to many years of programming and handling basic IT tasks at work over the years, but this was simply an exercise in frustration!

    I guess in hindsight I could have just logged into SkyDrive and e-mailed them the link, but that's really not the point. Seems this should be a simple task, yet I was unable to complete it.

    Was I doing something wrong or is it just not possible to e-mail a file (other than a photo) from a Windows Phone? Very sad if this is indeed the case!
    09-03-2013 11:12 AM
  2. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Nothing was wrong :) This how Windows Phone is ready for business :)
    You cannot attach anyone you want to email from inside email client. You cannot attach files to email from third party applications.
    You can do this only by using application which has internal SMTP client and ability to fetch files from cloud storages. For example pocket file manager.
    09-03-2013 11:56 AM
  3. trickym81's Avatar
    Nothing was wrong :) This how Windows Phone is ready for business :)
    You cannot attach anyone you want to email from inside email client. You cannot attach files to email from third party applications.
    It's ridiculous, to be honest.
    09-03-2013 12:23 PM
  4. Ray Adams's Avatar
    WP itself is a big ridiculous thing. I just cannot imagine who worked on WP! Who gave ideas and who them implemented.
    Seems like people who never sow smartphones before.
    09-03-2013 01:42 PM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    Don't you guys know that WP is the most productive, business - ready platform?

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    Richard Davis3 likes this.
    09-03-2013 01:54 PM
  6. m3kk's Avatar
    Don't you guys know that WP is the most productive, business - ready platform?

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    i Hate i cant send attachment! With my old nexus 4 I would apply for jobs on the fly and send both my CV and needed documents to companys..
    I figured out how to send one PDF at least.. :/
    09-03-2013 02:06 PM
  7. explosive0's Avatar
    In before the "that's how it's meant to be and it's the best" folks come in here.
    09-03-2013 02:12 PM
  8. pdxrunr's Avatar
    Sounds like the Bing News App. You can't email a link from an article! WTF. Actually, there is no way to share the articles.
    09-03-2013 05:36 PM
  9. Richard Davis3's Avatar
    This is my number one frustration with WP; email attachments! I wish I had known of this limitation, I would have gone with Android. Business ready... dont think so. Its a great phone if you are a teenager wanting to send pics of your junk, not really fit for anything else.
    09-18-2013 01:52 AM
  10. taymur's Avatar
    Sadly, there is something that you didnt do, which would have finished the task in less than a minute, try this:

    1) Go to the pdf you downloaded, where ever it is, adobe reader, or office i guess.
    2) Click and hold.
    3) Share via email. :)

    works like a charm, less than a minute, try it now :P

    I am guessing (just guessing) you owned an android before your WP, its just you are not use to the tap+hold interface.
    Jasy7 likes this.
    09-18-2013 02:12 AM
  11. mjrtoo's Avatar
    Yeah, it's pretty easy. I agree that Microsoft could do better with a user guide for WP though. Anything in SkyDrive via Office Hub (SkyDrive app shares a link instead), press+hold to share really anywhere. Works for photos in your hub too. Oddly, not within the acrobat app itself.
    09-18-2013 02:24 AM
  12. mpt15's Avatar
    Try using PDF send by Kipware, or PDF Reader Pro by Ocius.
    09-18-2013 02:47 AM
  13. mjrtoo's Avatar
    Try using PDF send by Kipware, or PDF Reader Pro by Ocius.
    Why, those apps are pointless, this is all built into the OS natively.
    09-18-2013 03:04 AM
  14. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sadly, there is something that you didnt do, which would have finished the task in less than a minute, try this:

    1) Go to the pdf you downloaded, where ever it is, adobe reader, or office i guess.
    2) Click and hold.
    3) Share via email. :)

    works like a charm, less than a minute, try it now :P

    I am guessing (just guessing) you owned an android before your WP, its just you are not use to the tap+hold interface.
    You're almost right.

    If you only have Adobe Reader you cannot do a long press and share. So the only option you have is the Office Hub.

    You download the PDF in Office Hub then do the share via email.

    The other option is to place the PDF in the Documents folder (you cannot put it in a folder in the documents folder) on your phone and then when in Office Hub, go to Place -> Phone and you'll find it there and then do the long press, share.

    Lastly, yes I agree with other comments here regarding how file attachments are done in email. It's silly and not very business friendly at all.
    09-18-2013 03:46 AM
  15. taymur's Avatar
    yeah sorry, i didnt try it out when i was typing, but you are absolutely true, you cant tap+hold in the Adobe app, but in the Office Hub it works just fine.

    and yes i also agree its very stupid that when you click attach in an email you only get photos, i sometimes feel that the windows phone team are half skilled fresh grads, non of them tried to send an email using their phones and when the came to the attachment part felt like, WHA! we are idiots.

    But still i guess this limitation is due to WP not have a folder manager, i wonder who made that decision too? maybe its for security.
    09-18-2013 07:17 AM
  16. taymur's Avatar
    relative to the subject, found this:

    25 Windows Phone 8 tips | Reviews | CNET UK

    check out number 17.
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    09-18-2013 08:41 AM
  17. mjrtoo's Avatar
    You're almost right.

    If you only have Adobe Reader you cannot do a long press and share. So the only option you have is the Office Hub.

    You download the PDF in Office Hub then do the share via email.

    The other option is to place the PDF in the Documents folder (you cannot put it in a folder in the documents folder) on your phone and then when in Office Hub, go to Place -> Phone and you'll find it there and then do the long press, share.

    Lastly, yes I agree with other comments here regarding how file attachments are done in email. It's silly and not very business friendly at all.
    Not business friendly to go to the office hub to email a document? I suppose....
    09-18-2013 09:09 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Not business friendly to go to the office hub to email a document? I suppose....
    Depends on your work I guess. I deal with documents and sometimes the people contacting me are not on my contact list. So, go ahead, reply to an email and add a document, go on I know you can do it. Oh, yes, you can't.

    Yes I know how to use copy and paste, thing is I shouldn't have to.

    When that gets straightened out I'll then think differently. Until then understand everyone has different opinions as to what an effective business device is. Also from an enterprise solution it lacks certain functionality that some companies find limiting. So it's not just my opinion.
    09-18-2013 09:27 AM
  19. mjrtoo's Avatar
    Depends on your work I guess. I deal with documents and sometimes the people contacting me are not on my contact list. So, go ahead, reply to an email and add a document, go on I know you can do it. Oh, yes, you can't.

    Yes I know how to use copy and paste, thing is I shouldn't have to.

    When that gets straightened out I'll then think differently. Until then understand everyone has different opinions as to what an effective business device is. Also from an enterprise solution it lacks certain functionality that some companies find limiting. So it's not just my opinion.
    This is true, but the OP was saying you couldn't do it in an original email.
    09-18-2013 09:31 AM
  20. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    This is true, but the OP was saying you couldn't do it in an original email.
    I see you don't understand how a conversation works. You were quoting and commenting on my opinion that it wasn't a business friendly device, you said nothing about the OP.

    As for original emails, same issue. You have to go to the Office Hub and can't use the email app. You can only attach photos from the email app. Which goes to show what market WP8 was catering for.
    09-18-2013 09:35 AM
  21. DropPass's Avatar
    You're almost right.

    If you only have Adobe Reader you cannot do a long press and share. So the only option you have is the Office Hub.

    You download the PDF in Office Hub then do the share via email.

    The other option is to place the PDF in the Documents folder (you cannot put it in a folder in the documents folder) on your phone and then when in Office Hub, go to Place -> Phone and you'll find it there and then do the long press, share.

    Lastly, yes I agree with other comments here regarding how file attachments are done in email. It's silly and not very business friendly at all.
    Ahhh... works great! Wish I would have known this from the beginning. Kind of a convoluted way to send a file though. As much as I already know about WP 8, apparently I still have a lot to learn!

    When you say you can place the PDF in the Documents folder, I assume that you first have to plug the phone in via USB so you can see the files on the phone in order to manipulate them? Otherwise, how else would you go about moving the files to the Documents folder?

    @taymur... Actually this is my first smartphone (unless you count the crappy T-Mobile Dash I had before this one (I don't)).
    09-18-2013 10:06 AM
  22. rdubmu's Avatar
    I believe you can do it from any PC via SkyDrive. Just move whatever file into documents folder inside SkyDrive.
    09-18-2013 10:15 AM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Ahhh... works great! Wish I would have known this from the beginning. Kind of a convoluted way to send a file though. As much as I already know about WP 8, apparently I still have a lot to learn!

    When you say you can place the PDF in the Documents folder, I assume that you first have to plug the phone in via USB so you can see the files on the phone in order to manipulate them? Otherwise, how else would you go about moving the files to the Documents folder?

    @taymur... Actually this is my first smartphone (unless you count the crappy T-Mobile Dash I had before this one (I don't)).
    The phone attaches to a computer and depending on what OS you're using will install the drivers or in the case of W8 the app, so you can use it like a flash drive. You'll have access to a limited amount of folders. In the Documents folder you cannot add folders if you want to access the files on your phone, they must be in the Documents folder. Same goes for Pictures but there's already folders there. With the Music folder you can have folders to separate your music into albums/artists.

    Another tip for you if you don't already know, you can set any MP3 you have as a ringtone, you just need to change the genre to RINGTONE and place it in the Ringtones folder.

    Skydrive is handy but to move a large amount of data not very effective.
    09-18-2013 10:30 AM
  24. DropPass's Avatar
    The phone attaches to a computer and depending on what OS you're using will install the drivers or in the case of W8 the app, so you can use it like a flash drive. You'll have access to a limited amount of folders. In the Documents folder you cannot add folders if you want to access the files on your phone, they must be in the Documents folder. Same goes for Pictures but there's already folders there. With the Music folder you can have folders to separate your music into albums/artists.

    Another tip for you if you don't already know, you can set any MP3 you have as a ringtone, you just need to change the genre to RINGTONE and place it in the Ringtones folder.

    Skydrive is handy but to move a large amount of data not very effective.
    Thanks for the tips N_LaRue. I already have a handful of Beastie Boys ringtones on my phone!

    I often connect my phone to computer, but always wondered why I cannot see any of the documents files I have download from SkyDrive, e-mail, etc... So if I am understanding correctly, I will only be able to see those documents if I first have them in the SkyDrive>Documents folder and then download them to my phone? I have tried this several times and nothing ever shows in the Documents folder while browsing my phone through my computer. The files in question are in the root of the Documents folder on SkyDrive and not in a sub folder. I must be doing something wrong.
    09-18-2013 01:13 PM
  25. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    I do have to agree on the attachments thing. It is pretty ridiculous. They finally got wav voicemails fixed, that last big hurdle for businesses would be to attach a common file type to an email. I can even see limiting to .docx, xlsx, .pdf, etc... but still reply all, attach document is a fairly common thing, even from a phone.
    09-18-2013 01:28 PM
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