1. afgzee's Avatar
    I just saw someone post a comment on another forum and it got my thinking, why didn't RIM ditch BlackBerry OS and not launch BB10, and rather launch Windows Phone on their newer handsets, it would have been a big win for both, and likely would have seen Windows Phone above 10% mark and app developers would have likely been more interested to develop for the platform earlier on, instead of both trying to fight for 3rd place.
    09-16-2013 11:03 AM
  2. crash1989's Avatar
    Because that would mean they would have had to sacrifice years of R&D that have gone into BB10. And moreover it would be accepting that they are not good enough to have their own OS.

    I am glad we have BB10, it is a very good OS and has its own problems, but dedicated fanbase.
    09-16-2013 11:29 AM
  3. Kellzea's Avatar
    It wouldn't have worked.

    Blackberry are dying because of the 8520, not because of bb10. Bb10 is a great os, as qnx is a great os. Blackberry have made some great new devices, but they simply are not selling. Its not because they are bad, but because blackberry is seen as bad.

    Speaking from the British market, blackberry was up until recently a chav phone. Bought in droves by uncooth yobs that used it for its street cred and bbm.

    This had the effect of massive sales, but only to a select demographic. A demographic that is easily swayed by what's hot and what everyone else has.

    They all bought the 8520. And it was ****. Utter, utter ****.

    Then, apple continue with their "hot" phones, Samsung become cool again, and to a lesser extent, Nokia do too.

    So the only people who were buying blackberrys in the uk have ditched what they see as "old and gay" and gone for phones with "swag" (god i hate chavs).

    Its the blackberry name that's mud, not the new phones.
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    09-16-2013 11:49 AM
  4. gsquared's Avatar
    "And moreover it would be accepting that they are not good enough to have their own OS."

    This is the most logical answer. There own arrogance is to blame for their demise.
    09-16-2013 12:00 PM
  5. crash1989's Avatar
    "And moreover it would be accepting that they are not good enough to have their own OS."

    This is the most logical answer. There own arrogance is to blame for their demise.
    I am just assuming, honestly no one wants to accept defeat and they have a very good OS which I think they believe in.
    09-16-2013 12:07 PM
  6. afgzee's Avatar
    its all good and well to have a good and nice OS but it isn't working
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    09-16-2013 01:38 PM
  7. Kellzea's Avatar
    its all good and well to have a good and nice OS but it isn't working
    that's true, but that's more evidence that the os is not the problem.

    Blackberry are probably dead now.
    09-16-2013 01:48 PM
  8. gwinegarden's Avatar
    that's true, but that's more evidence that the os is not the problem.

    Blackberry are probably dead now.
    And phone's popularity has little to do with the OS, or apps, for that matter. It's mostly about what you and your friends think is cool.
    09-16-2013 02:54 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Because that would mean they would have had to sacrifice years of R&D that have gone into BB10. And moreover it would be accepting that they are not good enough to have their own OS.

    I am glad we have BB10, it is a very good OS and has its own problems, but dedicated fanbase.
    If you're going to give a last ditch effort, forget the R&D dollars and concentrate on what will work, not what needs to work. BlackBerry probably would have survived as a WP OEM given the company's reputation for quality hardware (except the Curve & Javelin). No matter how good the OS is, if consumers aren't getting it (see webOS), it's doomed to fail. HP is realizing this and moving ahead with plans for a Windows Phone. BB should have cut their losses and gambled on WP, or Android.
    09-16-2013 03:16 PM
  10. Kellzea's Avatar
    And phone's popularity has little to do with the OS, or apps, for that matter. It's mostly about what you and your friends think is cool.
    bingo
    09-16-2013 03:24 PM
  11. KKRLessey's Avatar
    Yes
    09-16-2013 03:26 PM
  12. 12Danny123's Avatar
    If you're going to give a last ditch effort, forget the R&D dollars and concentrate on what will work, not what needs to work. BlackBerry probably would have survived as a WP OEM given the company's reputation for quality hardware (except the Curve & Javelin). No matter how good the OS is, if consumers aren't getting it (see webOS), it's doomed to fail. HP is realizing this and moving ahead with plans for a Windows Phone. BB should have cut their losses and gambled on WP, or Android.
    I absolutely agree with you. BB should have reacted faster to the change. They do need to understand you need a massive company that you can hang on to. They should have went Android or WP. well WP would have been a logic move for them. But unfortunately for what they did about BB10 and they are now on sale and also low expectations on BB device sales. I doubt they'll survive
    09-17-2013 03:18 AM

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