10-03-2013 08:45 AM
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  1. PeltFrelken's Avatar
    Curious about your thoughts on this: Realistically, do you think Windows Phone will ever really be mainstream in the US? I live in a big city and I never see one, ever (anecdotal, I know). For those who want a high end smartphone, the iPhone really seems to be the "default" choice for so many people.

    What's your take?

    (btw, I have a 521 and I very much enjoy it, so I'm in the WP camp, for sure)
    09-29-2013 06:29 PM
  2. Nicke Da Silva Manarin's Avatar
    I'm from Brazil, I spoted other 2 WP users in my university and I have a 720 :)
    09-29-2013 06:33 PM
  3. Jas00555's Avatar
    So far, I've seen 2 in the wild. My uncle who owns a MacBook Pro and iPhone 4S actually walked into a nearby Microsoft store to look at the 920 because he thought mine looked cool (he didn't buy one though). A friend of mine really REALLY wants a 520, but can't afford a new cellphone, he currently owns a crapdroid and when I told him it was $100 from AT&T, he was shocked that it has a decent camera and 8gb of storage when his android costs $75 and has like a 2mp camera and about 4gb of storage and lags a lot.

    It just needs time, isheep will always be isheep of course, but people don't really know how nice Windows Phone is unless they use it.
    09-29-2013 06:40 PM
  4. despertador's Avatar
    I've actually seen several WPs in my area of the US... :)

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    09-29-2013 06:55 PM
  5. odin09's Avatar
    The iPhone dominates by me. Even my wife has one. I know of two other people with wp's and they both love them. I still hope for more wp's to turn up but the iPhone users love them. Personally I can't stand the iPhone or the iPad, just not for me.
    09-29-2013 07:32 PM
  6. PeltFrelken's Avatar
    Your friend can get a 521 from T-Mobile for $5/month and zero down.
    09-29-2013 08:19 PM
  7. etphoto's Avatar
    There are a couple of people at my work that has WP. I love mine and never heard any complaints from them either.
    09-29-2013 08:24 PM
  8. hopmedic's Avatar
    I was at Chili's yesterday after church. While we were at the table, six of us, one lady handed her Windows Phone to the waitress to show her the coupon. Waitress accidentally grabbed the power button. I reached over and turned it on and swiped up on the lockscreen for her and she said something like, "I've got an android, so I couldn't figure it out." I said, "Rhonda (another lady eating with us) has that same problem."

    There were four Windows Phones at the table, one Android, and one dumb phone.
    xandros9 likes this.
    09-30-2013 12:16 PM
  9. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    My opinion behind this, and it's only my opinion as I don't live in the US. Is this.

    MS is not known for it's great marketing. The Windows name is known too much for tasks rather than the consumer market that iPhone and Android have, regardless of the success of xBox.

    Let's face it, even though I know and understand why the Windows name is being used, it is not a 'cool' name.

    WP lack of apps will continue to hamper uptake of the OS regardless how good the OS is. I know 3rd party apps are good but that's not the point. The missing 'major' apps and the lack of desire by those companies to make an app is a bad image. In the US, image is everything. Especially to younger people.

    WP is great, it's still in its teething stages but it has to come out of it quickly. It's doing well in general but it's got a way to go. Hopefully W8.1 makes the impact that's needed. Let's hope they get those missing apps on finally.
    09-30-2013 02:05 PM
  10. jenni122701's Avatar
    I still am thinking that WP will eventually be a mainstream phone. I have been seeing it shown on TV more lately, commercials and it is starring in some TV shows now as well. I love WP and think that it will continue to catch the eye and hearts of other users, its just at a slow pace. My BFF is about to switch from iPhone to the 8X WP, same as I have. I think with GDR3, the right advertising, and continuing to increase the WP app store, it's chances are good. I want nothing more than for WP to be right up there with Apple & Android phones.


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    09-30-2013 06:14 PM
  11. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    Untill sales are in in say, five years, all is conjecture.

    Enjoy, don't fret.
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    09-30-2013 09:39 PM
  12. Chinocop's Avatar
    Perceptions don't change overnight and neither do trends. Microsoft is going to have to build a good product. Once you have a solid reliable product, sales will come. This is going to take a while. They really need to convert people one at a time. That's the only way to go about it.
    tgp and xandros9 like this.
    09-30-2013 10:51 PM
  13. rdubmu's Avatar
    Here in Kirkland, Bellevue, Issaquah, and Redmond WA, they are everywhere :)
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    09-30-2013 10:57 PM
  14. raccoon210's Avatar
    I've seen some down in San Antonio. I've only seen 920's though. Been dying to see a 1020 in the wild
    09-30-2013 11:04 PM
  15. Noahma's Avatar
    There is an image problem. Microsoft needs to work on that hardcore. I had a cashier at Petco laugh and say "instagram on a windows phone, that's funny" When I was looking up a picture of a rare fish I have. I showed her that it indeed was posted to instagram, but she still did not believe me. I have had others completely write off windows phone when I even mention it. Although, I do get people wanting to take a look at my phone because they have heard of the OS and have never played around with it.
    xandros9 likes this.
    10-01-2013 12:22 AM
  16. Stormageddon5's Avatar
    As long as US carrier subsidies allow people to put $200 down and walk out with an iPhone, the US is going to be a tough market to break into.
    10-01-2013 12:40 AM
  17. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Most Americans seem to want what is "cool". And, in their minds, this is what everyone else has.
    E Lizzle likes this.
    10-01-2013 07:32 AM
  18. gsquared's Avatar
    Most Americans seem to want what is "cool". And, in their minds, this is what everyone else has.
    Americans have no idea "what is cool". Trust me, I'm an American and it takes one to know one.
    HaibaneReki likes this.
    10-01-2013 07:57 AM
  19. iamtim's Avatar
    I'm fairly confident that WP will become the unchallenged "third option" in the U.S., but I doubt it will ever be truly mainstream.
    10-01-2013 09:25 AM
  20. o0Nighthawk0o's Avatar
    I'm beginning to think that my daughter is about their best marketing tool. She got her L920 over the summer and when school started her friends saw it and now a lot of her friends have dumped the iPhone for the WP. About once a week she tells me of a new one that switched. She's a bit upset because the newest person got the 1020 and now she wishes she had waited a bit and got that instead of the 920.
    10-01-2013 10:15 AM
  21. a5cent's Avatar
    MS is still playing catch up. At this point, WP still lacks even a single, easily marketable, stand out feature that differentiates WP from the competition. Good marketing is important, but even the best marketing won't enable WP (that lacks a clearly identifiable advantage) to enter a mature market.

    The only way to sell WP today, is by explaining how WP does things differently, and hope consumers appreciate the differences enough to switch. Unfortunately, that argument is too nuanced and complicated to make in a 60 second advertisement.

    WP can become mainstream, despite its competitors huge head start, despite terrible marketing campaigns, and despite WP8's various issues. However, it won't happen until MS offers a unique differentiator. Something instantly recognisable, unique and compelling, something that goes beyond just improving interactions (like live tiles did), but also changes what those interactions are.
    10-01-2013 10:30 AM
  22. hopmedic's Avatar
    I'm beginning to think that my daughter is about their best marketing tool. She got her L920 over the summer and when school started her friends saw it and now a lot of her friends have dumped the iPhone for the WP. About once a week she tells me of a new one that switched. She's a bit upset because the newest person got the 1020 and now she wishes she had waited a bit and got that instead of the 920.
    That's awesome! My wife has been telling me for about two and a half years that Microsoft needs to pay me. Sounds like they need to pay your daughter, as well!
    HaibaneReki likes this.
    10-01-2013 11:01 AM
  23. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Most Americans seem to want what is "cool". And, in their minds, this is what everyone else has.

    Really? Surely 'cool' is not simply having the same as everyone else but instead standing out from the crowd? If not, please explain Punk to me.

    North Americans don't buy Windows Phones because they don't like them. There's no question that they are cool phones, but they clearly don't work for the US whilst they are great for the rest of us.

    The question is, what do North Americans want to do with their phones that the rest of us don't want to do much but that Windows phones won't do?

    The day Nokia make a phone that looks like a burger is the day they take the US market. :)~
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    10-01-2013 11:23 AM
  24. iamtim's Avatar
    Really? Surely 'cool' is not simply having the same as everyone else but instead standing out from the crowd? If not, please explain Punk to me.
    LOL, punk was never cool. Punk was the opposite of cool. By design. :D

    Anyway, no... here in North America, at least in Orange County, CA, "cool" is having all the "right" apps as dictated by the trendsetters (or anti-trendsetting hipsters, which are so counter-culture and uncool that they actually are the cool culture) and being able to keep up with the Joneses. When all your friends have Instagram, you don't want 6tag. When all your friends have iOS 7 with all its cool animations, you don't want WP8 with its Live Tiles.

    It's all incredibly vapid.
    10-01-2013 11:29 AM
  25. gsquared's Avatar
    "North Americans don't buy Windows Phones because they don't like them."

    North Americans don't buy WP's because they are told not to like them. Most have never even picked up a WP nor can answer even basic questions about them.
    10-01-2013 11:45 AM
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