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  1. Blacklac's Avatar
    I have never seen anyone with a Windows Phone, in public. Lol. :/. Its even worse than Blackberries in my area. (Mid Michigan). My friends that don't visit tech sites/blogs had no idea what Windows Phone looks like. Most everyone who has seen/used my phone give positive praise, but not enough to make them switch platforms. Its takes alot for people to make that switch. Especially the kind of person who buy their phone based off a poll they made on FB... Lol. (Gotta stick to what people say is "cool".)
    Last edited by Blacklac; 10-08-2013 at 02:48 PM.
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    10-08-2013 02:07 PM
  2. etad putta's Avatar
    Sometimes it's nice to have something different than everyone else. I consider Windows phone to be a hidden gem that is my secret and would like to keep it that way.
    10-08-2013 02:19 PM
  3. ag1986's Avatar
    I bet that windows phone is at least at 10% in the Seattle area if not not more. I see them everywhere

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    Yes, just like iPhones will be everywhere in Cupertino and Androids in Mountain View.
    10-08-2013 02:39 PM
  4. attract's Avatar
    That's very interesting opinion, but it's not our responsibility to make Microsoft selling more Devices. They should do more than other OS to attack young people.
    10-08-2013 02:57 PM
  5. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I, personally, know only four other people with Windows Phone (each of them are Lumia 900s).
    I, personally, know only two other people with a Windows 8 tablet (Surface and Surface Pro, respectively).
    Neither of these things means much to me, to be honest. I know 4 people with Android devices (4 Galaxy S III, 2 Galaxy S4). I know one with a Windows Phone 7 device (Lumia 900). I know 6 with iPhones (I think 4 are 4S, 1 is a 5, and not sure on the last one). I know 6 with Windows Phone 8 devices (3 Lumia 920, 2 HTC 8X, 1 Lumia 822). Different groups of people flock towars different devices, so it's tough to judge with a sample size within one's circle of peers.

    I know one person with an Android tablet (ASUS Transformer), and 3 with iPads (2 iPad Mini, 1 iPad 2). I know no one with a Windows 8 tablet, let alone an RT one. I know no one on Vista, one on XP, 5 people on Windows 7, and 5 on Windows 8.

    Again, just too small of a sample size to use one group (even a church congregation) to judge market share.
    10-08-2013 05:11 PM
  6. jiovine's Avatar
    One quick observation, the chart refers to shipments. If anyone remembers back in the early 2000's, Cisco and HP were counting units shipped to distribution partners as sales even if the product had not been sent to an end-user. The wording just makes me frown and think maybe all those shipments are sitting on shelves somewhere..don't Apples and Blackberries have a shelf life or expiration date? ;)


    10-08-2013 11:09 PM
  7. Adretheon's Avatar
    That's very interesting opinion, but it's not our responsibility to make Microsoft selling more Devices. They should do more than other OS to attack young people.
    And they can start by getting places to actually talk about the phone. I went into BestBuy 2 weeks ago, and they had a very small amount of phones "on display" with no banners. I picked up the mobile phone help paper they had with their phones, and there was 3 WP in the about 20 pages of phones it had. They didn't have the 1020 on display, nor did they have any cases or accessories in the aisles(or if they did they made no effort to show you where). It all seemed very nonexistent.

    I might step into the AT&T down the street and see what they have up, but my guess is it'll be a similar experience.
    10-09-2013 12:04 AM
  8. Farhan Reehman's Avatar
    It's growing, albeit slowly. The fact is I don't think WP will ever be a volume leader the way Android is, Android is just too big already, it needs to find a profitable niche and own it, Apple have the high end nailed and will do for some time, maybe business, camera power users, something like that, they have close to 10% across Europe now and more in places like Poland and Italy.
    10-09-2013 06:19 AM
  9. AndyCalling's Avatar
    As the move towards ecosystems accelerates, and as Windows merges between form factors, I think we'll see a change in WP's fortunes. So long as MS don't miss the wave. I can't see many PC users switching to a Mac or a Chrome based PC to fit with their phone, so I'm expecting a good uptake of WP devices instead. As soon as we can run our apps on all our Windows ecosystem devices, I predict a marked change.
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    10-09-2013 07:21 AM
  10. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Expanding the market share of Windows Phone is going to be difficult, no matter how great it is. And we can't control what Microsoft does to advertise it either, although they have been doing a fine job. But we all have a role to play in this too- if you have a Windows Phone and love it then show it to your friends as family, show them what it does differently and why you like it that way. And then if they choose to switch over tell them to do the same.

    Also, if you know anyone on a feature phone looking to get a newer model, recommend the Lumia 520/521.

    The market share may be anemic right now, but we have power to make a change.
    that will be difficult as the OS Is missing many features ,os bugs( other storage).now future updates show coming features but alit of those are on other os for a long time already that's why its very difficult right now .when wp8 matures abit then it will be easier
    10-09-2013 07:36 AM
  11. Jas00555's Avatar
    As the move towards ecosystems accelerates, and as Windows merges between form factors, I think we'll see a change in WP's fortunes. So long as MS don't miss the wave. I can't see many PC users switching to a Mac or a Chrome based PC to fit with their phone, so I'm expecting a good uptake of WP devices instead. As soon as we can run our apps on all our Windows ecosystem devices, I predict a marked change.
    Slightly off topic, but I also had the same thought as I was getting mad at Google for the whole Youtube thing. I was thinking to myself if I had one minute with Eric Schmidt, what would I say, and I figured it would be about Google apps and Microsoft. It went kinda like this
    "so why wouldn't you support Windows and windows phone?"
    "well, we here at Google support all viable platforms and we just don't see them as viable platforms"
    "huh? Haha over 100 million people use Windows 8, I mean, I could see Windows Phone, but how could you not embrace the future?"
    "we don't see windows as being the future"
    "then what do you suggest I do if I want a Gmail and google now app?"
    "buy a chrome book! We support those 100%"
    "*chuckles* dude, I'm gonna switch email services before I switch operating systems, that makes no sense"

    I never got past that part though
    10-09-2013 07:43 AM
  12. athaki's Avatar
    The part I find frustrating is that when I showed off the phone to my wife she said it was 'too confusing'. I really don't know what's so confusing about the interface.
    10-09-2013 08:18 AM
  13. EdSaver's Avatar
    I'm using Bing! Dude! 😊

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    10-09-2013 08:42 AM
  14. chezm's Avatar
    The part I find frustrating is that when I showed off the phone to my wife she said it was 'too confusing'. I really don't know what's so confusing about the interface.
    confusing = different

    My wife says the same thing, she's an iPhone 5-er. Its very different from the respective norm, the icon grind setup.

    As windows 8 becomes the standard windows OS, more people will become more familiar with the UI.
    10-09-2013 08:46 AM
  15. Christian Kallevig's Avatar
    The part I find frustrating is that when I showed off the phone to my wife she said it was 'too confusing'. I really don't know what's so confusing about the interface.
    I think it is just that it's not immediately familiar. Some people just can't get their minds around anything they aren't already comfortable with no matter how simple it is.
    10-09-2013 08:47 AM
  16. tgp's Avatar
    The part I find frustrating is that when I showed off the phone to my wife she said it was 'too confusing'. I really don't know what's so confusing about the interface.
    I wouldn't say either that it's confusing. I will admit though that once you start using WP beyond talk/text/browsing, the learning curve becomes steep quickly. For example, the settings menu is a jumbled mess, with little apparent logic to how it's set up.
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    10-09-2013 09:16 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    confusing = different

    My wife says the same thing, she's an iPhone 5-er. Its very different from the respective norm, the icon grind setup.

    As windows 8 becomes the standard windows OS, more people will become more familiar with the UI.
    Depends if they bother with the Start screen. In Win8.1 you'll be able to bypass it and go into desktop. Also they brought back some semblance to the Start Menu or you can get the add-on app. So many people will still avoid the Metro interface if they can.

    Let's face it, we're used to icons. They've been around a long time. The tile thing is a very big shift in thinking. I tend to think of the tiles as fancy icons myself and is an easier way of explaining it to people.
    10-09-2013 09:55 AM
  18. chezm's Avatar
    Depends if they bother with the Start screen. In Win8.1 you'll be able to bypass it and go into desktop. Also they brought back some semblance to the Start Menu or you can get the add-on app. So many people will still avoid the Metro interface if they can.

    Let's face it, we're used to icons. They've been around a long time. The tile thing is a very big shift in thinking. I tend to think of the tiles as fancy icons myself and is an easier way of explaining it to people.
    I havent used W8 as an OS yet, since the day I saw it I knew it was primarily intended for touch based devices so I waited for a proper touch screen machine (Pro 2 is what I'll be using). Would the general consumer go through the hassle to bypass on a touch screen type device?...thats the question
    10-09-2013 12:55 PM
  19. hopmedic's Avatar
    I was fortunate when they announced Win8, because I had already had a touchscreen laptop for almost a year when they made that announcement. So as soon as the developer preview was out, I installed it. So I've been using Win8 for about two years now, and love it. Yes, having a touchscreen makes a difference, but at the same time, I can go weeks without using it. Using a development environment on my PC, I'm primarily a desktop driver, but I don't have any problem using the start screen, though it's not often that I use Metro apps.

    I do have a media PC hooked to my TV, though, since 2005, and it is running 8.0 right now with Windows Media Center (8.1 RTM on my laptop). While I don't watch much TV, the recent addition of the CBS app, and the ABC app that I just discovered, are nice. I've set up secondary tiles from the CBS app to the shows that I'm interested in, which are only a few. I haven't looked at the ABC app, yet, though. I can go a month at a time without even turning the TV on, so it may be a while before I try the ABC app. The only downside of W8 Media Center, though, is that the Media Center remote doesn't seem to work right when it's on the Start menu, so I just use a wireless keyboard (has a touchpad). What would be really nice is if there were a way to get a Wiimote to work with it, just pointing and highlighting the tile that I want to use. The Wii just collects dust, anyway.
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    10-09-2013 01:33 PM
  20. Rem97's Avatar
    The part I find frustrating is that when I showed off the phone to my wife she said it was 'too confusing'. I really don't know what's so confusing about the interface.
    My friend said the exact same thing! I was baffled, where's the confusing part. The UI is the easiest to use IMO out of the three main OSes. I mean, nothing can be more simple than having a completely flat UI.
    10-09-2013 01:45 PM
  21. realwarder's Avatar
    Were you looking for something like this?
    Attachment 45232

    You bring up a good point with "9-10% of what number?". Percentage wise, WP did great! In real numbers, it's not so impressive. If you have a penny and I give you another one, I doubled your net worth. However, it's still pretty much worthless.
    I wouldn't say worthless. If you consider just how popular the iPhone is, to have 27% of the iPhone sales is actually pretty reasonable. For every 4 iPhones, a Windows Phone is being sold.
    10-09-2013 01:46 PM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    I wouldn't say worthless. If you consider just how popular the iPhone is, to have 27% of the iPhone sales is actually pretty reasonable. For every 4 iPhones, a Windows Phone is being sold.
    I didn't mean that WP's numbers are worthless. I was more talking about using percentages in general. In my analogy, the second penny doubled the net worth, but 2 isn't much more useful than 1. To say that WP sales rose by 77% YoY doesn't mean much, since the numbers are so small to begin with.

    It is interesting to note that worldwide WP sales are roughly 1/4 of iPhone sales. Where are they? I virtually never see a WP in the wild, but I see iPhones all the time. But then, I live in the US where the difference is probably more like 15 to 1.
    10-09-2013 01:57 PM
  23. david90531's Avatar
    I have actually seen much more WPs these days. Both Nokia and HTC.
    10-09-2013 10:50 PM
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