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  1. tonybessette's Avatar
    I was a long time Android user and was always very happy with their maps/navigation system. I absolutely LOVED the voice turn by turn with Google. I recently (five months ago) got the iPhone 5 and it's Maps with voice turn by turn is equally as brilliant....albeit Apple had a rough start when their Maps first came out....it's now tip-top.

    The point of this post is that I'm about a week away from selling my iPhone 5....driving to the Orlando Microsoft Store, and buying the Nokia Lumia 1520. I was wondering if HERE Maps had a good voice turn by turn navigation system like Google and Apple does....if not HERE Maps, perhaps another Maps app? I am moving to the DC metro area in just over a month and I would very much like my 1520 to be equally a life saver as my iPhone 5 and Galaxy Nexus once were.

    I have been doing a LOT of research on this OS switch.....and I am both excited and nervous. I'm pretty set up app-wise....99% of my must have apps are in the Windows app store....but Maps and a GOOD "voice" turn by turn navigation worries me. Plus I do hope this "Cortana" comes to pass......not that Siri is the end all be all of my iPhone, I hardly use her/it....but it would be sweet to have.
    12-29-2013 11:59 PM
  2. Prasoon271's Avatar
    Well HERE Maps work very well in India with good voice turn by turn navigation.. better than google maps
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    12-30-2013 12:27 AM
  3. jibreezy1982's Avatar
    HERE maps/drive/transit all work very well in the u.s, I use them daily, no problems, better than google imo
    12-30-2013 12:32 AM
  4. nokia6300's Avatar
    I was a long time Android user and was always very happy with their maps/navigation system. I absolutely LOVED the voice turn by turn with Google. I recently (five months ago) got the iPhone 5 and it's Maps with voice turn by turn is equally as brilliant....albeit Apple had a rough start when their Maps first came out....it's now tip-top.

    The point of this post is that I'm about a week away from selling my iPhone 5....driving to the Orlando Microsoft Store, and buying the Nokia Lumia 1520. I was wondering if HERE Maps had a good voice turn by turn navigation system like Google and Apple does....if not HERE Maps, perhaps another Maps app? I am moving to the DC metro area in just over a month and I would very much like my 1520 to be equally a life saver as my iPhone 5 and Galaxy Nexus once were.

    I have been doing a LOT of research on this OS switch.....and I am both excited and nervous. I'm pretty set up app-wise....99% of my must have apps are in the Windows app store....but Maps and a GOOD "voice" turn by turn navigation worries me. Plus I do hope this "Cortana" comes to pass......not that Siri is the end all be all of my iPhone, I hardly use her/it....but it would be sweet to have.
    nokia's here maps actually owns navteq, which supplies their map database to garmin and navigon. they've been doing mapping far longer than google and i think they are just as good as google maps.
    12-30-2013 01:00 AM
  5. John20212's Avatar
    nokia's here maps actually owns navteq, which supplies their map database to garmin and navigon. they've been doing mapping far longer than google and i think they are just as good as google maps.
    Navteq is the leader when it comes to mapping, hands down; that is why the leading GPS manufacturers use their maps database. While Google might be ok, it does not come close to Navteq.
    12-30-2013 02:31 AM
  6. nokia6300's Avatar
    Navteq is the leader when it comes to mapping, hands down; that is why the leading GPS manufacturers use their maps database. While Google might be ok, it does not come close to Navteq.
    And part of the reason why I want a Nokia lumia is the free navigation/maps. I was so impressed with Nokia drive on my N9 I knew I had to go back to Nokia after using my iPhone 4.
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    12-30-2013 02:50 AM
  7. rubenwidjaja's Avatar
    I choose Here Maps
    I love it

    Google Maps, bahhh, in my city Google Maps sucks
    always wrong in placing place and not accurate in position
    even for the public important place like hospital, Google Maps show wrong place

    Here Maps is the best
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    12-30-2013 02:56 AM
  8. Surendharan Muniraj's Avatar
    Can here map be downloaded through web browser and installed as apps are installed thru SD cards??
    12-30-2013 05:17 AM
  9. badcat's Avatar
    Here Maps / Here Drive is very good. I also use CoPilot CoPilot GPS | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States) which does some things better than Here and somethings not as good as Here. Google Maps is tough to beat but Here and CoPilot are both viable alternatives in my estimation.
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    12-30-2013 05:42 AM
  10. jeetu4444's Avatar
    Here maps is the best out there now. I have been using nokia maps fr years now and its very easy and accurate. When ever I travel I download the country map and use it in offline mode and iam never lost in a new country. Nokia drive is also awesome perfect directions fast rerouting if we take a wrong turn. Trust make the switch u will be. Happy.
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    12-30-2013 07:00 AM
  11. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Made the switch a year ago from android ,google maps, and here maps are awesome. Never has let me down!
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    12-30-2013 07:10 AM
  12. gray_liu's Avatar
    It is a pretty good one. I live in China. I use it on my domestic travels as well as foreign trips to Africa and Europe, it works perfectly with its off-line maps. Off-line, pal.



    Sent from my lumia720
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    12-30-2013 07:10 AM
  13. sym1a1a's Avatar
    Can here map be downloaded through web browser and installed as apps are installed thru SD cards??
    here maps are the default mapping app on all lumia phones, and are preloaded on the phone, they can be downloaded on non lumia windows phones thru the app store
    12-30-2013 07:30 AM
  14. errole's Avatar
    Here maps is great. The best best feature over iPhone and Android is it has offline maps. So if you don't have unlimited data, you never have to worry about going over and download the various countries maps.
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    12-30-2013 08:18 AM
  15. badcat's Avatar
    Can here map be downloaded through web browser and installed as apps are installed thru SD cards??
    As stated above by sym1a1a, Here maps are pre-loaded on Nokia Lumias. Presuming your phone has an SD card, the maps can be downloaded and installed on the SD card if Lumia Storage Check beta is installed. Otherwise the maps are installed to the phones memory.
    12-30-2013 08:22 AM
  16. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I use both HERE DRIVE+ (which is Nokias' GPS navigation App) and the NAVIGON USA App. They both use the NAVTEQ maps (owned by Nokia and used by many car manufacturers). Both speak the directions, turn by turn, as you drive. I don't think the basic HERE MAPS speaks the turn by turn directions? Both use their maps "offline" stored on your phone so they work when there isn't any internet service. The maps can be moved to a SD card if you have one. Both Apps are very good, but I do prefer Navigon. Navigon is a paid App and in my opinion, it is worth every bit of its full price. It goes on sale, occasionally. Navigon has great additional features such as lane change guidance, alternate routes, traffic avoidance, you can add intermediate stops along the way (find a gas station), it speaks the side of the street of the destination, it is integrated into Bing (just like HERE DRIVE+), and more...

    Best Wishes, No worries.
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 12-30-2013 at 09:23 AM.
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    12-30-2013 08:55 AM
  17. Guzzler3's Avatar
    My only beef with Here Drive, is it only says "You have reached your destination" when your done. I want it to say "You have reached your destination at (and then say the address or what-ever you were going to)".

    Otherwise, it works much better than Google and iOS, for me.
    12-30-2013 08:55 AM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    I've had a bit better experience with the accuracy of both Google maps and Apple maps over HERE maps, but HERE wins hands down with the ability to download for offline use. Now, if you have plenty of data and mainly drive where coverage is good, this may not be as much of an advantage. But a lot of people will find it very convenient. I do. In the US, Google maps is hard to beat. Waze is integrated, and it now shows traffic incidents & accidents, which helps with ETA and routing. But even so, HERE is plenty good, and the offline feature puts it over the top.
    12-30-2013 08:56 AM
  19. tonybessette's Avatar
    Thanks everyone! I am very excited for the switch...I just need to sell my iPhone 5 to help pay for the outright cost of the 1520 (it's on craigslist right now).

    I have no doubt that HERE Maps is superior to Google Maps or Apple Maps.....I was just (and am) hoping that the voice turn-by-turn is as good as, if not better that Google and Apple. I hate looking at the phone to know where and when to turn, lol....or how far ahead "until" the next turn.
    12-30-2013 08:58 AM
  20. hopmedic's Avatar
    I will not go so far as to say that Here Drive is the best (in my case, I'm using Here Drive+, which is not on all Nokias - the lower-end phones have Here Drive). For one thing, I haven't used Google maps in a very long time, and I also have never used an iPhone. While Here Drive+ is very good, it does leave some features to be desired. My 2006 Garmin dash unit with maps that haven't been updated in five years can add via points to my route, and when I am arriving at my destination it tells me the address and puts it on the screen, and also tells me which side of the road it is on. Both of these features I would love to see in Here Drive+, and have suggested through Nokia Feedback. I've moved several times in the past six years, so I do use my GPS quite a bit.

    I also am one who uses other GPS apps as well. I've tried Waze and uninstalled it. Great concept, but a HUGE battery suck, even diminishing charge while charging in the car. Inrix works, too, and I have used that. The latest that I'm trying out is CoPilot GPS (mentioned above), which I believe uses Inrix' traffic and map data, but I think does a better job. It beats Here on traffic data, and suggests alternate routes based on traffic as well. I believe Here and CoPilot are the only two that I've used that allow for downloading maps for offline use. Here, being a first party app, can store those maps on the SD card if you have one, while CoPilot cannot, as third party developers are not able to write to the SD card. This is a restriction in the SDK, but hopefully it will come with WP8.1 and the SDK that comes with it. It would be nice if CoPilot could use the Here Maps that are already downloaded, but they don't. For that reason I've only downloaded my region into CoPilot, while I have the whole US in Here. It would also be nice if Microsoft would modify its own system so that you could go directly from a search to Here Drive+, rather than go through Bing maps, then Here, as it would be fewer taps to get to where you want to be.

    Like I said, Here Drive+ is very good. It isn't perfect, but Nokia updates it fairly often, too. I would not be afraid of coming to Windows Phone based on need for turn by turn voice-guided navigation. It's there.
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    12-30-2013 09:14 AM
  21. stephen_az's Avatar
    I was a long time Android user and was always very happy with their maps/navigation system. I absolutely LOVED the voice turn by turn with Google. I recently (five months ago) got the iPhone 5 and it's Maps with voice turn by turn is equally as brilliant....albeit Apple had a rough start when their Maps first came out....it's now tip-top.

    The point of this post is that I'm about a week away from selling my iPhone 5....driving to the Orlando Microsoft Store, and buying the Nokia Lumia 1520. I was wondering if HERE Maps had a good voice turn by turn navigation system like Google and Apple does....if not HERE Maps, perhaps another Maps app? I am moving to the DC metro area in just over a month and I would very much like my 1520 to be equally a life saver as my iPhone 5 and Galaxy Nexus once were.

    I have been doing a LOT of research on this OS switch.....and I am both excited and nervous. I'm pretty set up app-wise....99% of my must have apps are in the Windows app store....but Maps and a GOOD "voice" turn by turn navigation worries me. Plus I do hope this "Cortana" comes to pass......not that Siri is the end all be all of my iPhone, I hardly use her/it....but it would be sweet to have.
    In the Phoenix metros areaI have found Here Drive to be appallingly bad. In fact, it is almost Apple Maps level of embarrassing. It consistently gives directions that are slower and longer than any other app I have used. I have also posted previously on an occasion that it gave me directions that looped me a mile away from my destination if I followed them, when the location was literally on the opposite side of the road. I posted a screen capture in that thread to demonstrate how stupid the directions were in that case. I have also had multiple instances of it either picking the wrong exit off a highway or directing me onto a road in Phoenix blocked by a canal (as if the road was continuous).

    Just yesterday I also had another comparable experience so I know the problems have not been addressed. I was going to Pinnacle Peak Park in North Scottsdale and just wanted to remind myself of the last turn so I got directions using Here Drive. Since the phone was connected to the Bluetooth in my car though and I hadn't turned of the program it also then started giving turn by turn directions. Starting just east of Indian Bend and Scottsdale Roads in Scottsdale, it first gave directions to go the opposite direction of my destination. That means instead of directing me north and east, it wanted me to make a u turn and back track to Scottsdale Road (to the west) and head up north on the most congested surface road in the area. Upon ignoring that direction, it then wanted me to turn on to Hayden Road and Pima Road (again surface roads) when the fastest and shortest route was to just go 0.5 miles further east and get on the AZ Loop 101 freeway. The bad mapping logic was pretty obvious and has been a fatal flaw in its directions in Phoenix since the day it was released. The destination was off Pima Road in the far north valley but instead of recognizing you could get off a highway onto Pima Road in the north valley, it assumed the fastest route was to essentially just take the surface road all the way from Central Scottsdale instead of the highway that the road parallels.

    BTW, one other nuisance which has also been present since release (at least with the 928 on VZW) is it always initially remembers the location when it was last turned on and will take up to a minute to recognize that I am not in Tucson or Sierra Vista (hours away) but in Phoenix. It does correct itself but it is still an annoying quirk that I have to wait for a phone that already knows where it is if I start from Here Maps. Here Maps will instantly have my correct location but if I switch to Here Drive I am initially still in Sierra Vista. Quite frankly, if Here Drive was to come pre-installed In a car I was planning to buy and I could not disable it, I would hesitate at purchasing the vehicle. I know people say it is a good app elsewhere but here it is an embarrassing bad joke only outdone by Apple Maps.
    12-30-2013 01:51 PM
  22. Sean Miller4's Avatar
    Question do you update it regularly? And also the remember location is not a bug but done on purpose, and very easily you just hit the green dot and it immediately goes to your location theres no waiting?
    12-30-2013 02:02 PM
  23. Dantekai14's Avatar
    As a map Google Map is better, it has lots of information compare to Here Map but Offline Here Map rules.
    12-30-2013 07:30 PM
  24. Dave Bhullar's Avatar
    The preinstalled HERE Drive app is pretty good for voice turn by turn navigation. It has a lot of different languages, I was pretty impressed by how many different languages and accents were available. You need to try the 'Surfer Dude' voice though lol. Turn by turn navigation by voice is just as good if not better, what you will actually miss is street view but there are apps just for that.
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    12-30-2013 07:38 PM
  25. dnomadic's Avatar
    I have found that Google maps has more information and I tend to like it more than Here Maps...That being said I am a new Windows user.

    I also find Waze to be a nice alternative as travel times and traffic seem to be more accurate, not to mention the addition of police and accident warnings.

    All that being said, Here Maps works fine for getting you from point "a" to Point "b"
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    12-30-2013 07:47 PM
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