- Nokia Lumia 920 review: Windows Phone 8 and (a little bit of) camera magic -- Engadget
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11-02-2012 04:30 PMLike 8 - Share
- Pretty good review, and frankly the camera comments are fair. So it's taking good daylight pics, just not dominating the competition there. That said, it's early and we know they will tweak the software in the coming months and those will improve as well. Remember how bad the 900's camera was panned then a few updates later (months) it was very respectable. I expect a similar effect with the 920 going from good to excellent (not counting low light where it is already excellent).
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11-02-2012 05:00 PMLike 5 - Share
- Pretty good review, and frankly the camera comments are fair. So it's taking good daylight pics, just not dominating the competition there. That said, it's early and we know they will tweak the software in the coming months and those will improve as well. Remember how bad the 900's camera was panned then a few updates later (months) it was very respectable. I expect a similar effect with the 920 going from good to excellent (not counting low light where it is already excellent).11-02-2012 05:07 PMLike 0
- And in a way I'd still like to notify that it's not really even "supposed" to be anything special in normal daylight setting. When we think what actually takes the most space in the camera module, its the OIS which has definitely shown its strength. Then there is the low light awesomeness. The actual rest of "8 mpix camera" seems fairly normal stuff and shouldnt be expected to beat stuff like N8 or 808. Not to mention this phone has no camera bulge which both of mentioned phones have. Naturally technology evolves, but still.
Personally I think it's working as intended.
Of course I agree that it seems that some software tweaks could be needed and will probably make the 920 even better when they get those tweaks out. I dont understand much about photography but the arguments of "aggressive noise reduction that wash out details" seem valid.- Share
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11-02-2012 05:08 PMLike 3 - Share
- And in a way I'd still like to notify that it's not really even "supposed" to be anything special in normal daylight setting. When we think what actually takes the most space in the camera module, its the OIS which has definitely shown its strength. Then there is the low light awesomeness. The actual rest of "8 mpix camera" seems fairly normal stuff and shouldnt be expected to beat stuff like N8 or 808.
Personally I think it's working as intended.- Share
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maverick786us likes this.11-02-2012 05:10 PMLike 1 - Share
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If you dont wait for something, what will you look forward to?
Dont be complaining.. be happy with what you have now and look forward to the next thing.11-02-2012 05:33 PMLike 0 - To the commenters saying the camera is working a intense are completely wrong. The phone was touted as having the most impressive camera in a smart phone aside of the 808. It's has 8.7 mp Carl Zeiss optics with ios. It's not supposed to take blurry, soft, detail less ,fuzzy, shots in broad daylight. I don't care how any of you try to sugar coat it. Every camera on a phone or an actual camera should take excellent images during daylight . Something is wrong with the optics or software that processes the images . The camera is not the way it should be. Now if Nokia designed their new flagship phone to take decent not great pictures during the day then they deserve to have a company in the current state that its in. I want a 920, I want a cyan 920 but I don't want a new smart phone that has a camera that doesn't produce great pictures . Especially one that can't take pictures better than camera phones that were released years before it11-02-2012 05:33 PMLike 0
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Now if you want the best daytime camera-phone then you would likely go for the 808 with it's massive 41MP oversampling PV tech.11-02-2012 05:37 PMLike 0 - To the commenters saying the camera is working a intense are completely wrong. The phone was touted as having the most impressive camera in a smart phone aside of the 808. It's has 8.7 mp Carl Zeiss optics with ios. It's not supposed to take blurry, soft, detail less ,fuzzy, shots in broad daylight. I don't care how any of you try to sugar coat it. Every camera on a phone or an actual camera should take excellent images during daylight . Something is wrong with the optics or software that processes the images . The camera is not the way it should be. Now if Nokia designed their new flagship phone to take decent not great pictures during the day then they deserve to have a company in the current state that its in. I want a 920, I want a cyan 920 but I don't want a new smart phone that has a camera that doesn't produce great pictures . Especially one that can't take pictures better than camera phones that were released years before it11-02-2012 05:40 PMLike 0
- To the commenters saying the camera is working a intense are completely wrong. The phone was touted as having the most impressive camera in a smart phone aside of the 808. It's has 8.7 mp Carl Zeiss optics with ios. It's not supposed to take blurry, soft, detail less ,fuzzy, shots in broad daylight. I don't care how any of you try to sugar coat it. Every camera on a phone or an actual camera should take excellent images during daylight . Something is wrong with the optics or software that processes the images . The camera is not the way it should be. Now if Nokia designed their new flagship phone to take decent not great pictures during the day then they deserve to have a company in the current state that its in. I want a 920, I want a cyan 920 but I don't want a new smart phone that has a camera that doesn't produce great pictures . Especially one that can't take pictures better than camera phones that were released years before it11-02-2012 05:48 PMLike 0
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"We spoke with Nokia at length about this and were told it's at least in part thanks to some pending software tweaks to increase sharpness"11-02-2012 05:54 PMLike 0 -
Or quit placing unrealistic expectations. I get the frustrations Negativefang but it's not the end of the world.11-02-2012 06:01 PMLike 0 - And in a way I'd still like to notify that it's not really even "supposed" to be anything special in normal daylight setting. When we think what actually takes the most space in the camera module, its the OIS which has definitely shown its strength. Then there is the low light awesomeness. The actual rest of "8 mpix camera" seems fairly normal stuff and shouldnt be expected to beat stuff like N8 or 808. Not to mention this phone has no camera bulge which both of mentioned phones have. Naturally technology evolves, but still.
Personally I think it's working as intended.
Of course I agree that it seems that some software tweaks could be needed and will probably make the 920 even better when they get those tweaks out. I dont understand much about photography but the arguments of "aggressive noise reduction that wash out details" seem valid.
Couldn't have said this any better than you did and it bears repeating. I can see how people assumed daytime photos would be better too, **** I kind of did, but really that shouldn't have been the case and should've been kept in check by realistic expectations. Either way it still is one of the best at the moment for a freaking camera phone.11-02-2012 06:05 PMLike 0 -
- To the commenters saying the camera is working a intense are completely wrong. The phone was touted as having the most impressive camera in a smart phone aside of the 808. It's has 8.7 mp Carl Zeiss optics with ios. It's not supposed to take blurry, soft, detail less ,fuzzy, shots in broad daylight. I don't care how any of you try to sugar coat it. Every camera on a phone or an actual camera should take excellent images during daylight . Something is wrong with the optics or software that processes the images . The camera is not the way it should be. Now if Nokia designed their new flagship phone to take decent not great pictures during the day then they deserve to have a company in the current state that its in. I want a 920, I want a cyan 920 but I don't want a new smart phone that has a camera that doesn't produce great pictures . Especially one that can't take pictures better than camera phones that were released years before it
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maverick786us likes this.11-02-2012 06:28 PMLike 1 - Share
- I've also seen in these reviews the suggestion that was mentioned about manual settings possibly being the best way to go.
I look at it this way - like stated, it can take the best low light shots around for just about any point & shoot. That's simply amazing and really does show the hardware is sound. The daylight issues (especially when on normal settings) do seem to be a software issue and are probably an overly aggressive noise filter. Which I'd rather have that than a speckled and noisy image under normal ISO settings.11-02-2012 07:23 PMLike 0 -
Is it based on just picture quality, or is it based on the overall camera "package" that the phone offers ?
I think that it should be based on the overall features/performance, which are image quality in various condition, flash photography, video recording, zooming, sound recording, easy of use, camera UI, and then add on to that if there are any extra features.
So, if that was the case, I would rank the current smartphone camera market like this:
1. 808 (by a significant margin)
2. N8
3. 920
4. iPhone 5
5. GS2/Note
6. Xperia S
But regardless, the 920 is a much better package than the nexus.. not even close. So the Verge's conclusion makes me think that they just looked at the image quality in daylight, and that was it.. despite the fact that in their actual review they were impressed with the low light performance of the 920.
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