[Hiiiiiiiii]

Counters app for Lumia graduates to Marketplace | Nokia Beta Labs

Since Microsoft is being asholes and does not have datasense monitoring on all the phones, any alternatives?

There was Nokia Counters but looks like there is no WP8 version?

[rockstarzzz]

I'm not really understanding any of this and don't see any sense in this, probably there is a lawsuit for someone clever in here... Because all these data sense and blah blah was shown on stage, guys using it, showing how cool it is with WP8 etc. Now we get supplied phones that don't have most of it and what we have is half-*** effort. Imagine Apple talking about Siri and then you get iPhone shipped without Siri but when you try and find out all you hear is "It's coming soon" - WTF did I get this brand new phone for if all the features you were boasting about are not going to appear for another 2-3 months! /rantover

[Etyrnus]

I've been looking at it like this, At&t scooped the top Nokia phone, and Verizon scored data sense as a brief exclusive. I'd rather have the phone, and with the my att app I can monitor my usage anyway. Personally the most I've ever hit on WP for one month was 75% of my plan.

[rockstarzzz]

In the UK, we don't have it at all - exclusive or not

[Muessig]

I've asked Nokia about this and they said "no comment" the other day. I asked for a good data monitoring app in these forums a couple of weeks ago and never got an alternative so who knows maybe we'll be able to find a good alternative this time around. Here's hoping! :D

[Etyrnus]

From what had been reported on this site, its supposed to be a short exclusive for Verizon, and coming to the rest of Nokia phones sometime in the near future.

[rockstarzzz]

How are these stuff that were shown as a part of WP8, not in WP8 right from day 1? Can someone throw at me an example of such stuff on any other platform?

[Etyrnus]

Examples would help, if your looking for specific cases. But the data sense thing was reported well before the phones were released in the US.

[Hiiiiiiiii]

I've been looking at it like this, At&t scooped the top Nokia phone, and Verizon scored data sense as a brief exclusive. I'd rather have the phone, and with the my att app I can monitor my usage anyway. Personally the most I've ever hit on WP for one month was 75% of my plan.

US carriers **** me off, especially since it's no longer the #1 market for WP, yet Microsoft still bends over and ignores all other countries like they don't even exist.

Examples would help, if your looking for specific cases. But the data sense thing was reported well before the phones were released in the US.

I get 8 hours of free calls, 2k free SMS and 1 GB of Internet for $9 / month, therefore, I need to keep an eye on my usage, my mom especially, since she goes overboard with the talk time.

[Etyrnus]

Wasn't WP8 available for order in other countries first? I can understand the frustration completely, I'm not trying to excuse their behavior, just that we knew about this before the phones were released.

And I wish my bill was $9 a month. Try $150 including a discount thru my employer, 2 lines unlimited talk/text and 4 GB of data. And my mom is my second line as well.

[jimski]

So now it's "Microsoft" who decides if you get DataSense on your "Carrier Branded" phone. It's ok to be angry, but please direct the anger in the proper direction. DataSense requires some background updating and data collection on Carrier servers. If they are too lazy, or too busy selling iPhones, you will never see it. But as Microsoft stated on stage, it is available on every Windows 8 phone. Carriers just need to enable it.
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[dula714]

What if your carrier does not support Data Sense? I really liked the data counters app from Nokia, why cannot they release the same thing for WP8 and Data Sense can be optional?

[Etyrnus]

What jimski was getting at is datasense is the evolution of counters.

[Hiiiiiiiii]

So now it's "Microsoft" who decides if you get DataSense on your "Carrier Branded" phone. It's ok to be angry, but please direct the anger in the proper direction. DataSense requires some background updating and data collection on Carrier servers. If they are too lazy, or too busy selling iPhones, you will never see it. But as Microsoft stated on stage, it is available on every Windows 8 phone. Carriers just need to enable it.
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What? Nokia Counters can achieve that and there are million Android apps / built in Android function that requires no carriers support, we are talking about data monitoring here (as that's what Nokia Counters does, NOT data compression).

And if you are talking about data compression it also does not require any carriers, seen Opera Mini and Opera Mobile? Works fine on every single carrier in the world, it does compress data. Seen Nokia x app for WP7 that compresses data / news, etc? Guess what, no carrier intervention either

[dula714]

I do not know how Microsoft screw things up like this.

[mythra]

Data Sense needs to be supported by the carrier.

A Look at Data Sense on Windows Phone 8 | Pocketnow

[sabotagebx]

if youre with ATT just text that number and it gives you all of this information....

[Etyrnus]

I do not know how Microsoft screw things up like this.

Microsoft didn't screw it up. This wasn't on any WP before Nokia. And its a Nokia exclusive, so at least point the finger in the right direction, Nokia and the carriers.

Which its pretty much a nonissue to me, as I know to watch my data, and use WiFi where I can. I never had a plan with unlimited data, so I've learned to do it from the start. And even WP background apps have always used less data than their Android counterparts for me. I used to hit my cap or come extremely close every month on Android, never hit it with WP.

[inteller]

Appears Microsoft has given even more cards to the carriers to hold. What if ATT gets this, will it be available for MVNOs? I doubt it, and Microsoft needs to be concentrating on more carrier independent features. Stop giving these shysters even MORE control!

[Etyrnus]

Nvm...tired of pointless argument...

[dula714]

Microsoft didn't screw it up. This wasn't on any WP before Nokia. And its a Nokia exclusive, so at least point the finger in the right direction, Nokia and the carriers.

Which its pretty much a nonissue to me, as I know to watch my data, and use WiFi where I can. I never had a plan with unlimited data, so I've learned to do it from the start. And even WP background apps have always used less data than their Android counterparts for me. I used to hit my cap or come extremely close every month on Android, never hit it with WP.

You might be correct, but the general population does not think that way. And even if you are saying that it uses less data, Microsoft needs to advertise this fact and prove it. I have not seen a single advertisement on Datasense since it is a new feature of Windows Phone 8.

[dula714]

Appears Microsoft has given even more cards to the carriers to hold. What if ATT gets this, will it be available for MVNOs? I doubt it, and Microsoft needs to be concentrating on more carrier independent features. Stop giving these shysters even MORE control!

True, I agree.

[rockstarzzz]

Isn't this true?

Datasense = Msft
Counters = Nokia

[wheresmybeaver]

I think it'll be a while before many other carriers support datasense, but in the meanwhile I can't see why Nokia wouldn't just update Counters for the Lumia 920. Fingers crossed.

[Hiiiiiiiii]

Isn't this true?

Datasense = Msft
Counters = Nokia

Counters = WP7 Nokia only
Non Verizon WP8 users = nothing for you