In all seriousness, I still honestly want to know which apps - currently or in development - are available for WP8 that take advantage of faster hardware. For that matter, I'm not that familiar with current Android handsets - are there any apps that run noticeably better on better hardware there (assuming the two phones are on the same version of the OS)?
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In all seriousness, I still honestly want to know which apps - currently or in development - are available for WP8 that take advantage of faster hardware. For that matter, I'm not that familiar with current Android handsets - are there any apps that run noticeably better on better hardware there (assuming the two phones are on the same version of the OS)?
a5cent
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my sarcasm apparently didn't come through on that post - sorry
lol, sarcasm detector died here a while ago, since many people are serious about the craziest statements. Sorry too.
a5cent
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Neither clock rate nor cores are reliable measures of CPU performance. Both are easily scalable and simplistic, which makes them perfect for marketing, just like megapixels.
I don't know if you're a dumb dumb. At least you are honest in saying that you buy into the spec sheet marketing BS.
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a5cent
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I think that is a trick question ;-)
Almost all WP8 apps could make use of faster hardware, but not if extra performance comes ONLY in the form of more cores, in which case the answer would likely be none at all.
On Android things are a bit different, because a lot more work is left to the general purpose computing cores instead of specialized co-processors. Current WP8 devices actually have seven cores, all of which are used extensively, two of which are general purpose computing cores. For this reason, and because Android supports unrestricted multitasking, having more cores will be more easily noticed on Android, but I still know of not a single Android app that makes good use of more than two cores.
Yeah, I don't understand some people's logic, either. "It works fine now, so let's never make any more advancements." That's just a silly thing to say/think. Or the other one, "I don't use more than 8GB so why should anyone else?"
I guess what I meant is which apps would run perfectly fine (full speed) on a phone released today with, say a 1.8GHz dual or quad-core Snapdragon that would not run full-speed on the 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon in my 920? I suspect none, aside from possibly a few ms faster initial load time off a cold boot. I'm also guessing that any given chipset will no longer be able to run a new OS (and new apps with new minimum requirements) long before processor performance becomes an issue. If everyone's timing everything appropriately, that would be a ~2-year cycle to coincide with contract lengths, plus probably a year buffer for laggards who don't want to trade up immediately.
That's not what we're saying. It's not that tech shouldn't move forward, it's a matter of which specs to care about. I'm proposing that there's no good reason for the consumer to care about the CPU speed/cores in a phone, or consider it when choosing a device. Or, most annoyingly, use it to try to convince other people (especially on other platforms) that their phone is better because of it.
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I too want to state that you've completely misunderstood the argument. I too want advancements, but I want advancements that matter.
I couldn't care less about a simple bump up from an 8MP to a 13MP camera, or a crippled and throttled pseudo octa-core CPU that will be no better at running our apps than the CPUs we already have available today. However, as long as consumers buy into this nonsense, and the industry doesn't have to do more to sell the masses on new gadgets, why bother?
How many of you realize that megapixels, core count and CPU clock rates are all things that are easily scaled solely through improved manufacturing processes? That means they require comparatively little real engineering effort, read, low risk and predictable time to market. It's no coincidence that it is precisely these metrics that are put front and center by the hardware industry and thus figure so prominently on their marketing/spec sheets. Unfortunately, after a certain point, further scaling of those metrics offer little real world returns. We have crossed that point in all those metrics, which is why they are now largely irrelevant for everything but marketing, which unfortunately continues to work just fine.
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Hate to break it to you guys but mobile quad core is NOT quad core. So all this excitement and debate is misguided. They're more like two dual cores in parallel...
The difference being, one set is battery saving the other is for power.
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The difference being, one set is battery saving the other is for power.
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a5cent
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Nope, you are the one that is misguided. To my knowledge, no such mobile quad core CPU, with a 2+2 big.LITTLE configuration, exists. I know only of 4+1 and Samsung's upcoming 4+4 configurations. Every mobile quad core SoC I know of comes with a real quad core CPU. All of Qualcomm's quad core offerings certainly are. Not too hard to look it up on the manufacturers websites.
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Coolknight1968
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928... Bad name. Porsche 928. The 928 was a major Flop for Porsche. I doubt that the 928 will deliver if they make it in the same Chinese factory as the 920...
Let's see - HTC, Samsung, Sony (to an extent), Apple, and Blackberry have all released their 2013 flagships on all carriers. Let's see whether Nokia gets with the times or not on this phone. I'm going to predict they won't. Yes I know the carriers share some blame for this, but evidently the others above have managed somehow to overcome any obstacles.
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Because the 920 is such bad quality? That's not what basically every review and user opinion and youtube video has said/shown. I can't imagine more than 0.01% of potential buyers are going to associate it with a Porsche frlast made nearly 20 years ago lol
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I agree, but you are missing one very important point. The price! In the U.S., the Z10 is selling for $200 on contract, despite being last years tech. The Z10 contains practically the same SoC as the L920, which cost half that price when it was brand new. The L920 is now free!
That price advantage exists only due to exclusivity! The real question has nothing at all to do with 'getting with the time's', but whether Nokia thinks maintaining that price advantage is more important than a 'universal' launch. Based on what we're hearing, that seems to be the case.
Why Apple and Samsung can do universal launches shouldn't require further explanation.
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I've seen the 920 get some friendly reviews but haven't seen anything to indicate it's a huge success or even if it's sales have anything at all to do with exclusivity. And it isn't just apple and Samsung. ALL of the OEMs are launching their flagships universally this year.
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Re: Nokia Lumia 928 has a MicroSD slot ! ! ! !! ! .....(from twitter)
Class 4 = 4mbps
Class 10 = 10mpbs
that being said.... I don't see a logical need for a phone to have over 32gb lol
slow speeds from a Micro SD cards are caused by a low end/speed card. chances are you used the typical class 4 or even class 2 card... you will spend a few more bucks but should definitely buy class 6 or 10 Micro SD card because of transfer speeds. most lower priced cards are class 4. also depends if the device can take advantage of the faster card (most newer device can)
Class 4 = 4mbps
Class 10 = 10mpbs
that being said.... I don't see a logical need for a phone to have over 32gb lol
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Re: Nokia Lumia 928 has a MicroSD slot ! ! ! !! ! .....(from twitter)
Like I always say, it doesn't hurt to have options. Someone out there might need over 32gb. I know I like to have more than I probably will use just for comfort sake.
Like I always say, it doesn't hurt to have options. Someone out there might need over 32gb. I know I like to have more than I probably will use just for comfort sake.
a5cent
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If you're saying that Nokia's strategy, which revolves around undercutting their competitions price points for similarly spec'ed devices, is misguided, then I can't argue with that. I don't have any data and don't know how Nokia would have done had each of their devices been $50 - $100 more expensive across the board... however they are the undisputed WP8 sales leader, which price may be at least partially responsible for, no?
All I'm saying is that Nokia has consistently undercut their competitions price points for similarly spec'ed devices and that was only possible due to exclusivity.
Whether that was worth the exclusivity deals I do not know, but since Nokia seems to be continuing down that path, I would assume it was.
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