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  1. punkoc1902's Avatar
    I was really shocked when I read this article: "Missing" new features in Amber? - Nokia Support Discussions

    Why can not wake feature touch on lumia 620 and lumia 720???
    Features screen wake Nokia previously said to support all machines except for the 520, but why not now supports both Lumia 620 and 720??
    Nokia should not trick users. I lost too much faith in Nokia !

    we need accurate answers ! ! ! !
    08-24-2013 05:44 PM
  2. Jazmac's Avatar
    Did you buy your 720 expecting there to be an FM radio on it?
    pankaj981 and gazmatic like this.
    08-24-2013 07:21 PM
  3. pankaj981's Avatar
    One thing i don't get, people are complaining for a feature that they never had or were aware of coming when they bought the phone and now they are suddenly losing faith in the company...i mean WTF!!
    08-24-2013 07:53 PM
  4. Kelvin Morais's Avatar
    08-24-2013 09:27 PM
  5. Jazmac's Avatar
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    Where did that chart come from?
    08-24-2013 09:33 PM
  6. techiez's Avatar
    One thing i don't get, people are complaining for a feature that they never had or were aware of coming when they bought the phone and now they are suddenly losing faith in the company...i mean WTF!!
    if ppl bought phones based on existing features nobody wud hv given chance to WP7.5 n even 8 for tht matter, many bought nokias n not WPs, n tech blogs n even nokia n MS repeatedly announced that they would bring in more features in subsequent updates so ppl give a chance to the company n hv every right to get frustrated at such things.
    sahil1990 likes this.
    08-24-2013 09:41 PM
  7. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    if ppl bought phones based on existing features nobody wud hv given chance to WP7.5 n even 8 for tht matter, many bought nokias n not WPs, n tech blogs n even nokia n MS repeatedly announced that they would bring in more features in subsequent updates so ppl give a chance to the company n hv every right to get frustrated at such things.
    Okay, they would bring more features in future updates.

    You now have some of those features they promised. Even more would come in future updates.

    Remember, your phone will be supported for 36 months. More will come along the way.
    08-24-2013 10:30 PM
  8. pankaj981's Avatar
    if ppl bought phones based on existing features nobody wud hv given chance to WP7.5 n even 8 for tht matter, many bought nokias n not WPs, n tech blogs n even nokia n MS repeatedly announced that they would bring in more features in subsequent updates so ppl give a chance to the company n hv every right to get frustrated at such things.
    They did say about bringing in more features but they didn't say which models will get what, did they? On top you are complaining about features missing from a low-mid-end model. 1020 owners complaining about a feature missing that the 720 has, understood but vice versa...NO!. They have paid the premium price and they honestly deserve each possible feature. If 720 is missing features, you can either REQUEST Nokia to implement it (if its possible in a peaceful way), live without it or upgrade your phone, and NOT COMPLAIN like the OP and spread wrong notions like how the company abandoned a feature and he has lost faith.
    gazmatic likes this.
    08-24-2013 11:42 PM
  9. SnailUK's Avatar
    Lets say Nokia actually implemented the glance screen on those phones, and put a big notice on the update screen saying "THIS WILL DRAIN YOUR BATTERY QUICKLY".

    Nobody will bother reading it, everyone will use it, then all the owners will be venting their nerd rage about the battery life with this new feature. Whatever they do, Nokia get moaned at.

    I'd be gutted if some cool feature came out in the next update, and my phone didn't support it, but i'd man up and deal with it, because Nokia don't just take these decisions to annoy people, there's always a good reason.
    gazmatic likes this.
    08-25-2013 01:07 AM
  10. sision's Avatar
    They should have atleast included the fm radio for 620.
    08-25-2013 01:35 AM
  11. Shihatsu's Avatar
    if ppl bought phones based on existing features nobody wud hv given chance to WP7.5 n even 8 for tht matter, many bought nokias n not WPs, n tech blogs n even nokia n MS repeatedly announced that they would bring in more features in subsequent updates so ppl give a chance to the company n hv every right to get frustrated at such things.
    Boy, as much as I can understand your rage (I disagree, but that's no reason for me to post in a thread, I'm beyond that), please do me and all others a favor and fix your spelling - this is hurting my eyes.
    08-25-2013 01:46 AM
  12. seq1's Avatar
    Those who bought it after knowing that Amber update was coming might have bought it because it was getting FM radio, glance, double tap. etc...
    Nokia should have mentioned about all this when they rolled out Amber on 15th Aug. There was nothing mentioned regarding double tap to unlock not being available for Lumia 520, 620 and 720. Only thing that was mentioned was that Lumia 520 & 625 will not be getting Glance screen.

    It's probably because Nokia realized it later that it would not be able to implement it or there is some mistake made by Michaels(Community Manager).
    sahil1990 and Vistaus like this.
    08-25-2013 02:38 AM
  13. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Where did that chart come from?
    All About Windows Phone ran an article on this few days back. This chart is from their "source".
    Last edited by rockstarzzz; 08-25-2013 at 07:13 AM.
    WanderingTraveler likes this.
    08-25-2013 06:56 AM
  14. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    All About Windows Phone ran an article on this few days back. This chart is from their "source".
    They're normally very professional and accurate, too.

    As for these missing features, its possible that Nokia couldn't get them ready in time.

    Remember how many phones and variants they have. This is not Android where you can afford to skip a a.b.c update for the heck of it without a lot of people getting angry.
    08-25-2013 07:27 AM
  15. donoester's Avatar
    One thing i don't get, people are complaining for a feature that they never had or were aware of coming when they bought the phone and now they are suddenly losing faith in the company...i mean WTF!!
    I think you have underestimated the competition in the market that exists nowadays. People who buy smartphones these days, expect them to be update-able with the latest features, even mid-end phones receive attention by for example Sony or Samsung when it comes to new Android builds, and Apple has made it a "feature" to still support relatively old products with new OS releases. HTC was been losing an extreme amount of customers because they didn't care about updates. Because they fell asleep in the competition and were more interested in selling new phones.

    Of course people will lose faith in Nokia extremely fast, if they leave out purely software based features such as "double tap to wake". I like my 720, and don't need this feature myself. But for professionals, Windows Phone 8 is still very much a "beta" OS, with very basic features lacking. For example how one would adjust the ring volume independently of what the volume level was set to the last time you played a game or listened to music. My Sony-Ericsson W810 from 2006 had this feature!
    When pushing the "turn off screen"/sleep button during a game, for example Asphalt 7 or Rayman Jungle Run, the game is completely messed up when waking up the phone again. Again a very basic, but illustrative example of what state WP8 is in.

    My point being that Nokia does NOT have the privileges to "leave" out simple features on such a new phone which already lacks in comparison to competition. It is as simple as that.
    Last edited by donoester; 08-25-2013 at 07:46 AM.
    08-25-2013 07:28 AM
  16. pankaj981's Avatar
    I think you have completely underestimated the competition in the market nowadays. People who buy smartphones these days, expect them to be update-able with the latest features, even mid-end phones receive attention by for example Sony or Samsung when it comes to new Android builds, and Apple has made it a "feature" to still support relatively old products with new OS releases. HTC was been losing an extreme amount of customers because they didn't care about updates. Because they fell asleep in the competition.

    Of course people will lose faith in Nokia extremely fast, if they leave out purely software based features such as "double tap to wake". I like my 720, and don't need this feature myself. But for professionals, Windows Phone 8 is still very much a "beta" OS, with very basic features lacking. For example how one would adjust the ring volume independently of what the volume level was set to the last time you played a game or listened to music. My Sony-Ericsson W810 from 2006 had this feature!
    When pushing the "turn off screen"/sleep button during a game, for example Asphalt 7 or Rayman Jungle Run, the game is completely messed up when waking up the phone again. Again a very basic, but illustrative example of what state WP8 is in.

    My point being that Nokia does NOT have the privileges to "leave" out simple features on such a new phone which already lacks in comparison to competition. It is as simple as that.
    Agreed...but if its doable Nokia would implement it in future update, if not then they won't due to hardware restrictions and/or other reasons which we are unaware off. Bashing up a company without knowing the facts and complaining about something that was never part of what was mentioned by Nokia during release is as good as being completely ignorant and selfish and also accounts to spreading FUD against the entire platform.

    And the complaint about games messed up after locking and unlocking the screen, did you find the same behavior with other games? I doubt you will since I tried it now with a couple of games and they seem to resume fine, so its a badly coded app and not Microsoft who's at fault.
    08-25-2013 07:54 AM
  17. Sohan Mahajan's Avatar
    can't install asphalt 7 bcz only 210MB free in phone storage despite using 32GB memory card for music,videos n photos(which is 15GB free)...y MS don't throw this other storage in memory card....n Music+Video hub sucks on my L620...at least I had better music player on my Asha...which was 3 times cheaper than Lumia620...
    08-25-2013 08:14 AM
  18. pankaj981's Avatar
    Please stay on topic
    08-25-2013 08:35 AM
  19. montsa007's Avatar
    720's screen and tap to wake = dead battery.
    08-25-2013 09:56 AM
  20. Kelvin Morais's Avatar
    08-25-2013 09:59 AM
  21. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    They should have atleast included the fm radio for 620.
    From what I remember... the 620 doesn't have the required hardware. FM radio was never promised for the 620.
    08-25-2013 12:06 PM
  22. sision's Avatar
    From what I remember... the 620 doesn't have the required hardware. FM radio was never promised for the 620.
    Why would they not include a feature that has been present in budget Nokia phones from years ? My first lumia 510 had it which came out before the 620 and it was much lower in specification.
    08-25-2013 12:39 PM
  23. donoester's Avatar
    720's screen and tap to wake = dead battery.
    The screen would be off when you awake the phone by double tap. Only the touch screen part should be active. That would mean that it consumes just as much/little power as for example the 820. IF the touch screen controller is the same, that is...

    Agreed...but if its doable Nokia would implement it in future update, if not then they won't due to hardware restrictions and/or other reasons which we are unaware off. Bashing up a company without knowing the facts and complaining about something that was never part of what was mentioned by Nokia during release is as good as being completely ignorant and selfish and also accounts to spreading FUD against the entire platform.

    And the complaint about games messed up after locking and unlocking the screen, did you find the same behavior with other games? I doubt you will since I tried it now with a couple of games and they seem to resume fine, so its a badly coded app and not Microsoft who's at fault.
    I hope I didn't come out too harsh in my comments - but it is really important for manufacturers to realize that caring for the customers is important. But it would then mean we should never complain about anything, since truth be told, no-one knows the hardware restrictions and one won't get to know them as one would have to be in the business in order to receive datasheets from the various manufacturers, and even then it's most likely under NDA.
    The only sane reason why it couldn't be implemented were if the touchscreen controllers used in the 520/620/720 are different (cheaper) and would enter a low-power mode in hardware when the phone is in standby and not allow touch inputs to pass through for further processing at this point (i.e. only has one GPIO for defining power saving mode).

    I'm able to reproduce the bugs each time I try both of the games. Ironically I didn't have any extra games installed, but I downloaded "Shuffle Party", a nice bowling game actually, and except for the fact that entering standby right after throwing the puck/ball results in the pins being turned without the possibility to see it after wake up - there are no graphical glitches at all.
    So I take that back, it is the game developers' responsibility. With highly important and optimized titles such as Asphalt 7 and Rayman, one would have thought a bug like this would have been caught and fixed immediately, if it was possible. :-)
    08-25-2013 02:47 PM
  24. punkoc1902's Avatar
    I expected to wake up the screen on the Lumia 720
    08-25-2013 05:47 PM
  25. punkoc1902's Avatar
    Those who bought it after knowing that Amber update was coming might have bought it because it was getting FM radio, glance, double tap. etc...
    Nokia should have mentioned about all this when they rolled out Amber on 15th Aug. There was nothing mentioned regarding double tap to unlock not being available for Lumia 520, 620 and 720. Only thing that was mentioned was that Lumia 520 & 625 will not be getting Glance screen.

    It's probably because Nokia realized it later that it would not be able to implement it or there is some mistake made by Michaels(Community Manager).
    What do you think ?? : "Missing" new features in Amber? - Nokia Support Discussions
    08-25-2013 05:49 PM
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