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  1. AndrewL920's Avatar
    Attachment 54794
    I have the yellowish tint still and blurred images post black update. I used 4Blend HDR for this :) and any idea why the Image file size is in KB....too small :/ 200KB 300KB >:( rarely it hits 2MB once in a blue moon I mean and that too with the Nokia Camera App. This pic was around 800KB (tolerable)
    Third party camera applications like 4blend and camera360 are not using high resolution pictures.
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    01-18-2014 08:06 PM
  2. AndrewL920's Avatar
    Yep FFC is better on my VGA Lumia 620, while we should have here 1,2MB (according to some reviews i saw that the FFC on Lumia920 is usable for selfies pictures and skype). Seems like all the Lumias (even the low end) get better support then the leader of the gang L920.
    FFC is usable in Portico Update. Amber destroyed it and Black did not fix it.
    01-18-2014 08:07 PM
  3. hope4wp's Avatar
    Third party camera applications like 4blend and camera360 are not using high resolution pictures.
    I was talking about Nokia Camera....all my pics are 300kb or 200kb
    01-18-2014 09:40 PM
  4. Dethon's Avatar
    You are absolutely right front facing camera after AMBER is unusable, 80% of picture looks like this Simpson like, Yellow skin tone and purple around... Attachment 54791
    Wow, just wow. My front camera isn't near that bad and I have a Lumia 920 too.
    Attached Thumbnails wp_20140119_04_11_44_pro.jpg  
    Last edited by Dethon; 01-18-2014 at 11:13 PM.
    01-18-2014 10:19 PM
  5. AndrewL920's Avatar
    Wow, just wow. My front camera isn't near that bad and I have a Lumia 920 too.
    Go to Nokia Camera, settings then turn On Photo Review. Take a selfie photo
    01-19-2014 04:33 AM
  6. jib19's Avatar
    My impression so far after updating to Black is that the colours are closer to the real ones, and the noise is handled a bit better too. Not radically different results but they are better, if only a little.
    01-19-2014 05:31 AM
  7. cuzincurly's Avatar
    If you set the iso to 100-200, the softness is highly reduced
    01-19-2014 07:02 AM
  8. lordbebech's Avatar
    I want to admit that i still don't have a BLACK update, but as users commenting around here, that nothing have changed except more accurate white balance. In the day light effect it is no so dramatic... there is no this fricky Simpson effect,
    simpson-effect-2.jpg

    but after all this updates, pictures are faded from colors,blurred and a way more grainy.
    amberfrontfacing.jpg
    Actually it looks like it was photoshoped with filter like 'old film' or something like that EDIT: i do some researches and i can say now with dose of certainty that inpreAMBER photos there was all over purple tint, AMBER solved that issue but added another... Simpson effect (yellow skin tone) in low light (especially fluorescent light)
    condition and faded colors to semi-good conditions. Here is small comparison.
    comparison-preamber.jpg
    In this photo we can actually even say that there is somekind of improvment.
    As soon as i get black uptade here in Poland i will try to do more comparisons
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    01-19-2014 07:21 AM
  9. AndrewL920's Avatar
    I want to admit that i still don't have a BLACK update, but as users commenting around here, that nothing have changed except more accurate white balance. In the day light effect it is no so dramatic... there is no this fricky Simpson effect,
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    but after all this updates, pictures are faded from colors,blurred and a way more grainy.
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    Actually it looks like it was photoshoped with filter like 'old film' or something like that EDIT: i do some researches and i can say now with dose of certainty that inpreAMBER photos there was all over purple tint, AMBER solved that issue but added another... Simpson effect (yellow skin tone) in low light (especially fluorescent light)
    condition and faded colors to semi-good conditions. Here is small comparison.
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    In this photo we can actually even say that there is somekind of improvment.
    As soon as i get black uptade here in Poland i will try to do more comparisons
    Yes using fluorescent light will make the front facing selfie photo a Simpson but not in a daylight. Thank you for the comparison.
    01-19-2014 08:18 AM
  10. alpha beta gaga's Avatar
    to those experiencing 'issues', have you posted about it on the official nokia discussions forum? Nokia Lumia - Nokia Support Discussions

    i've searched but can't find a thread about it over there. i would have thought the offical nokia forums would have at least its own thread. are nokia more likely to read their own forums or win phones forum?
    01-19-2014 08:34 AM
  11. AndrewL920's Avatar
    to those experiencing 'issues', have you posted about it on the official nokia discussions forum? Nokia Lumia - Nokia Support Discussions

    i've searched but can't find a thread about it over there. i would have thought the offical nokia forums would have at least its own thread. are nokia more likely to read their own forums or win phones forum?
    I already created a thread there but I think moderators of the forum and other users are the only people who read those threads there. Nokia discussions threads are too cluttered. If I have another camera to record how post processing kills the image and then post it on YouTube I think I may get their attention
    01-19-2014 09:08 AM
  12. alpha beta gaga's Avatar
    ok. so regardless of how many other threads there are over on nokia discussions, if it is/was a widespread 'issue' surely the quantity of people posting about it would be high/on the increase and the thread wouldn't get lost..no?
    01-19-2014 09:14 AM
  13. lordbebech's Avatar
    Okay, i got BLACK from, lets say not official source. Just made few testes, and well i see the difference. Much better color reproduction, simpson effect under low fluorescent light reduced... (its hard to say because when i use Front face camera i can see on phone display that camera is STRUGGLING to set right white balance, i made series of photo by holding shutter button 3/5 was amazing good ,one was simpson like and one had another issue (blur). I am starting to wonder that it may be hardware problem.
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    01-19-2014 01:48 PM
  14. alpha beta gaga's Avatar
    Okay, i got BLACK from, lets say not official source. Just made few testes, and well i see the difference. Much better color reproduction, simpson effect under low fluorescent light reduced... (its hard to say because when i use Front face camera i can see on phone display that camera is STRUGGLING to set right white balance, i made series of photo by holding shutter button 3/5 was amazing good ,one was simpson like and one had another issue (blur). I am starting to wonder that it may be hardware problem.
    exactly. and that is why there is very few mentions of it over on nokia discussions. if it was widespread rather than isolated to a few cases, there would be more than a page or 2 of people talking about it on nokia discussions. it is not even widespread on wpc, it is just the same people posting about it over and over.
    01-19-2014 01:55 PM
  15. Senad Klepic's Avatar
    alpha beta gang i would agree with you if this problem didn't started with Amber.
    01-19-2014 02:02 PM
  16. alpha beta gaga's Avatar
    alpha beta gang i would agree with you if this problem didn't started with Amber.
    so why isn't this 'issue' being discussed at any great length on nokia forums then? threads don't simply get buried if there is an issue affecting the majority of users. i searched and found a one page thread about it with the last post dated sept 13
    01-19-2014 02:19 PM
  17. Senad Klepic's Avatar
    Its not faulty hardware of the device you know why?
    Every Lumia user (who turns on review) and looks closer sees that the PP is "ruining" the picture, now take for an example one granny which got the L920 or some 15y old kid you think he'll see the difference (i don't go on global, just on casual users). Clearly only who saw this are Lumia " sawys " which wanna the best from the device, well at least that is my opinion.
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    01-19-2014 02:23 PM
  18. lordbebech's Avatar
    Yeah, post processing in most of the cases highly decrease details, and sharpens of photo and sometimes adding a little bit of yellow tint, as most of user say the effect is stronger with higher ISO and i can also confirm that. Photos on screen shot (especially makro ones) looks way better than finally post processed photo saved. Is it so hard to allow users to just switch off post processing if they don't want it ? The situation is stupid now, because the best idea would be taking photos by screen shoot of being saved photo, wwhat is actually quite difficult with combination :Windows + Lock .
    Last edited by lordbebech; 01-19-2014 at 05:20 PM.
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    01-19-2014 02:49 PM
  19. Sasa Lakic's Avatar
    This reminds me on my previous phone. HTC One which had red tint problem in low light conditions. Even my final pics didn't have red tint it wasn't pleasure to look at viewfinder while taking pics. Difference is that One problem was hardware related and they tried to lower it by adjusting ISO algorithm. Nokia problem is a lot easier and I hope they will solve it. I am pretty satisfied with my l920.
    01-19-2014 04:04 PM
  20. h3li0's Avatar
    Why cant i watch the php photos? I just can open the ones in jpeg here ib the forums using my lumia 920. Anyone knows how to solve this?
    01-19-2014 06:41 PM
  21. lordbebech's Avatar
    so why isn't this 'issue' being discussed at any great length on nokia forums then? threads don't simply get buried if there is an issue affecting the majority of users. i searched and found a one page thread about it with the last post dated sept 13
    Many peoples having the issue of yellow tint or blured photos, some users reported also that this not just hardware problem because is repeatable: non existence of problem-> installing AMBER/BLACK update -> yellow tint appers. Maybe we all broken our phone cameras simultaneously... ;/ ?! Is there a way to stop Nokia Pro Camera applying the yellow tint to the photos I take? : windowsphone
    BTW... i made some researches. Have bad & good news. Bad one damn simpson effect remains in fluorescent light (dramtic effect on front facing camera and even on main camera but with lower impact) but just look an this: the photo is amazingly more sharper Right one AMBER (1/100 ISO 160) ( i did this photo about three times with different lenses including Proshot effect nearly the same) Left one BLACK (1/100 ISO 130) . Both on Auto:ambervsblack.jpg
    Last edited by lordbebech; 01-19-2014 at 07:49 PM. Reason: adding some content
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    01-19-2014 07:18 PM
  22. WNxAshik's Avatar
    i would prefer the left side image.
    01-20-2014 01:11 AM
  23. lordbebech's Avatar
    And that one is from BLACK, i know title of the photo is missleading but description is correct :)
    01-20-2014 01:18 AM
  24. WNxAshik's Avatar
    So , for some people, the black update is fixing the sharpness problem.
    01-20-2014 01:32 AM
  25. lordbebech's Avatar
    Not really, i can still se that photo before post producing is sharper and heave diffrent- more accurate colors. But yes, there is an improvement in comparison to AMBER.
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    01-20-2014 03:46 AM
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