No Glance support?!!!

[Mr Hyde]

About glance support....

First, I really like it. I have it on my L822 and right now its what is stopping me from getting the Icon. The 822 does its job so I really cant justify spending $200 and then losing a feature I like. I'm sure the Icon will blow away my 822 in all other aspects but since I don't have it, I don't really know what I'm missing. And since I have Glance, I already know what I'll be losing. Now, with that said...

I contacted Nokia 3 days after Launch day for the Icon and the CSR told me the same old "Hardware Limitations" stuff but he also told me they were working on Glance for the Icon but they didn't know if they would release it in an update or not. It just seemed that the whole thing was not decided yet (I know I'm extrapolating a lot from our short online text chat). So I just started to wonder why they wouldn't be actively working on Glance. Well, With WP 8.1 due out in the very near future, and if you were MS/Nokia, where would you be putting your resources? Would you have people working on Glance for the Icon or would you have all your people working on polishing WP 8.1 for all Lumia phones? I'm pretty sure I'd have every available person testing and tweaking 8.1 so each and every possible bug was squashed prior to the release. This would even make more sense to me if something in 8.1 is slated to replace or revamp Glance.

So, I'm sitting on the sidelines with my trusty L822 (and glance), waiting to see what goodness 8.1 brings to the table. Can I live without Glance? Sure. I was living without it before it became a feature. Will notification center be more usefull and make glance obsolete? I dunno. I'll have to wait and find out. Either way, I'm sure that WP8.1 is the priority now and all other non essential features in WP8 have been put on temporary hold. I waited a long time for the Icon to be released. I can wait another month or so.

 

[JizzyJizum]

Mmmm...i doubt that's the reason, but a food thought.

 

[anon(7901790)]

You're right. You don't get it. Either you miss passive notifications or you don't. You don't. I do. Cool for you, crappy for me. 'Nuff said.

I hope the Icon gets glance. I had it on my 928, and it's nice, but I can live without it. Every thing else is superb...

 

[ret18057]

So, is the wisdom here that we will at least get the "double tap" with 8.1? Or is there some other mysterious bug that prevents that?

 

[anon(7901790)]

And there was much rejoicing!!!

Nokia App Store Confirms Windows Phone 8.1: Glance App Updated | Nokia - Gizbot

 

[David Fleetwood]

And there was much rejoicing!!!

Nokia App Store Confirms Windows Phone 8.1: Glance App Updated | Nokia - Gizbot

Nothing there about the Icon supporting it however...

 

[anon(7901790)]

I'm believe that it will be for ALL WP8.1 devices. Since the Icon is not the only Nokia phone that doesn't have Glance.

 

[mtalinm]

hope so. I don't love tht the only way to turn on the screen is to pinch the side button. when the phone is lying on a table that's a drag.

 

[savagelizards]

hope so. I don't love tht the only way to turn on the screen is to pinch the side button. when the phone is lying on a table that's a drag.

Or on a QI charging stand.

Has anyone heard anything more from Nokia about glance support for the Icon? Or are we beating a dead horse here? Glance support for 8.1 won't matter if we Icon owners don't have access to the app in the first place...

 

[mtalinm]

So here's my theory.

1. For some reason unknown to use it's tricky to do Glance on a 1080p OLED screen.
2. Verizon was mad and delayed the Icon launch to try to fix it, but finally relented because they wanted a 5" 1080 phone out before everyone else got it (i.e., the 930).
3. It's hard to imagine that Nokia would be satisfied never having Glance on any 1080p OLED screen, so they are working feverishly on it for the announcement of 8.1 and the 930. But not doing an interim update for the Icon - after all, the phone was only released a month ago.
4. Thus 8.1 will bring Glance to the Icon (and double tap).

I know nothing more than any of you out there, but this is my bet.

 

[Indistinguishable]

So here's my theory.

1. For some reason unknown to use it's tricky to do Glance on a 1080p OLED screen.
2. Verizon was mad and delayed the Icon launch to try to fix it, but finally relented because they wanted a 5" 1080 phone out before everyone else got it (i.e., the 930).
3. It's hard to imagine that Nokia would be satisfied never having Glance on any 1080p OLED screen, so they are working feverishly on it for the announcement of 8.1 and the 930. But not doing an interim update for the Icon - after all, the phone was only released a month ago.
4. Thus 8.1 will bring Glance to the Icon (and double tap).

I know nothing more than any of you out there, but this is my bet.

I think this is a pretty safe bet. Although I think you give Verizon too much credit. I hope you're right, though.

 

[bc3tech]

And there was much rejoicing!!!

Nokia App Store Confirms Windows Phone 8.1: Glance App Updated | Nokia - Gizbot

still doesn't add it to the Icon.

Has anyone heard anything more from Nokia about glance support for the Icon? Or are we beating a dead horse here? Glance support for 8.1 won't matter if we Icon owners don't have access to the app in the first place...

you're beating a dead horse. it's hardware-limited. period. always. forever. full stop.

https://twitter.com/NokiaUS/status/447190802872414208

 

[Indistinguishable]

you're beating a dead horse. it's hardware-limited. period. always. forever. full stop.

We don't know that. Period. Full stop.

 

[bc3tech]

We don't know that. Period. Full stop.

yeah i'm sure you're right. the hardware limitation (display memory) will be increased by a firmware update later.
Let me know when and i'll get one.

 

[LTTG]

Nokia was never clear why some phones don't get certain features.
For example, Double Tap to Wake wasn't available for the 520, 620, 720 and the 625 because of "hardware limitations", but when Black came out, they made it available, that means it's just software related and has nothing to do with hardware. Anyways, I think in the end Nokia will bring Double Tap to Wake and Glance for the Icon...

 

[Indistinguishable]

yeah i'm sure you're right. the hardware limitation (display memory) will be increased by a firmware update later.
Let me know when and i'll get one.

Until you can explain to me what the hardware limitation of "display memory" means as it pertains to glance, we still don't know whether or not the Icon is capable of handling Glance with an update. If Nokia Blue comes along, and we still don't have Glance, then i'll be willing to say with some certainty that the Icon is never getting it.

 

[pechio]

There is missing a wire connection between the screen pixels & an internal memory byte.

 

[Indistinguishable]

There is missing a wire connection between the screen pixels & an internal memory byte.

Right...

 

[mtalinm]

There us a flaw in my above logic. Nokia may abandon OLED screens entirely in favor of IPS. So the icon could be end if the road and never get Glance.

 

[primortal]

Take this with a grain of salt and over thinking this...

Today there's an update for Extras+Info and when I when to check the setting I noticed this in the list of apps, "Glance PinBoards App Agent 1.2.0.0". I don't know if it was there before the update and if the version changed.

If Glance isn't supported; supposedly. What is "Glance PinBoards App Agent" then?