Nokia Lumia 630. A step backward?

[Karthik Naik]

a simple test to check which phone is better. Play subway surfers on lumia 525 and then play it on moto g and the winner will be lumia 525 for sure :amaze: this will clear everyones doubt which phone is better.

actually in this case both will perform equally unless u wait 2-3 months then the moto g will have lag issues and will have trouble with games
but not directly out of the box

 

[SSgt Bruskowiz]

And what about moto's gps offline navigation?

 

[anony_mouse]

Except the Moto G isnt in the same league as the Lumia 630 at all. The Moto G, OUTSIDE of the USA costs a whopping $270 outright.

No it doesn't. Look at some online shops and then post back your findings.

 

[Karthik Naik]

No it doesn't. Look at some online shops and then post back your findings.

challenge accepted
for india-
Moto G - Buy Products Online at Best Price in India - All Categories | Flipkart.com
flipkart is the only place/site to get moto g
id rather buy a 620 or a 525

 

[SSgt Bruskowiz]

The 8 Gb lies between the 169,- and the 229,50 €
Motorola Moto G 8GB Zwart - Prijzen - Tweakers

The 16 Gb lies between the 208,- and the 244,50 €
Motorola Moto G 16GB Zwart - Prijzen - Tweakers

 

[anony_mouse]

The 8 Gb lies between the 169,- and the 229,50 €
Motorola Moto G 8GB Zwart - Prijzen - Tweakers

The 16 Gb lies between the 208,- and the 244,50 €
Motorola Moto G 16GB Zwart - Prijzen - Tweakers

UK - 8GB available for GBP99 (USD165) on PAYG / GBP125 (USD208) SIM free. That *includes* 20% sales tax. (source: phones4u.co.uk)

 

[lkishor]

And what about moto's gps offline navigation?

GPS is what i am worried of in Lumia 630, coz it too just have A-GPS, means u wont find your location if u are offline, checked it on developer.nokia.com, in the list of sensors, GPS is missing.

 

[prasath1234]

Now this title fits it.even its predecessor lumia had offline GPS.shame on you Nokia.cost cutting king.

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[ntice_521]

Here's what developer.nokia.com has for 520:
A-GPS
CellID
GLONASS
GPS
SA-GPS
WiFi positioning

And for 630/635:
A-GPS
CellID
GLONASS
WiFi positioning

But I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that there's really a difference.

 

[a5cent]

GPS is what i am worried of in Lumia 630, coz it too just have A-GPS, means u wont find your location if u are offline, checked it on developer.nokia.com, in the list of sensors, GPS is missing.

Ehm, no.

A-GPS is the full GPS system + some cell tower related magic to improve positioning information in weak GPS signal areas. Any smartphone that has A-GPS, also has GPS. The OS may not use it, but the hardware is there.

 

[hidayat225]

IMO, they should only release a budget device alongside a flagship and a niche devices, that way they could update each devices more easier.
The budget device would cost around $150, have a build quality of a 720, similar screen size with the iPhone, have 512mb ram, FFC and Flash. Then a flagship device with 2GB ram, and the flagship stuffs.

Now tell me my idea is a bad idea. Having options is a good thing. But to have a device for every category is better than the mess we have now.

 

[SSgt Bruskowiz]

Now tell me my idea is a bad idea.

Its a bad idea.


Its good that all phone's having the same package.

At first the budget phones only had here drive ( regional) all the others had the full here +
Making a to big a difference, people won't cross over from other platforms.

 

[lkishor]

Now this title fits it.even its predecessor lumia had offline GPS.shame on you Nokia.cost cutting king.

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welcome back brother you are back to shame on nokia, even if it doesn't have a dedicated GPS sensor, it has HERE maps, which lets u download complete offline map data, so the data charges won't go high on your pocket...

 

[lkishor]

Ehm, no.

A-GPS is the full GPS system + some cell tower related magic to improve positioning information in weak GPS signal areas. Any smartphone that has A-GPS, also has GPS. The OS may not use it, but the hardware is there.

just confirmed on Wikipedia, i suggest u to check once there or on any tech site u follow, it states what i mentioned above.
GPS+A-GPS is best

A-GPS fast but only when a internet connection is available

GPS slow but without a internet connection

 

[Karthik Naik]

The 8 Gb lies between the 169,- and the 229,50 ?
Motorola Moto G 8GB Zwart - Prijzen - Tweakers

The 16 Gb lies between the 208,- and the 244,50 ?
Motorola Moto G 16GB Zwart - Prijzen - Tweakers

u forgot shipping charge, if say someone orders from an unsupported country theyll have to pay shipping

 

[SSgt Bruskowiz]

u forgot shipping charge, if say someone orders from an unsupported country theyll have to pay shipping

Yep thats true, but that was not the question.

 

[Chris_Germany]

Ya I own lumia 820. I now about that poor battery which will drain in no time if u use the phone as smartphone if u don't use it heavily just for calling texting music it will sail you through 2 days with very minimal use.but if u do gaming or anything related to internet u will drain it in 4 hours on screen.so it is battery weak smartphone.

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Maybe you should get yourself a gameboy...kids always complain about games. I'd you are older, you will use your phone normally and everything will be fine

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[a5cent]

just confirmed on Wikipedia, i suggest u to check once there or on any tech site u follow, it states what i mentioned above.
GPS+A-GPS is best
A-GPS fast but only when a internet connection is available
GPS slow but without a internet connection

Okay, I see now why you are confused:

1. According to Wikipedia, smartphones do exist that support location services based solely on A-GPS.
2. As you stated, the Lumia 630 spec sheet mentions A-GPS but not GPS. You are (understandably) misinterpreting this to mean it doesn't support the later.

However, if you carefully read the Widipedia page you mentioned, you'll notice it partially contradicts itself on this issue.

From a very technical point of view, you are correct. Spec sheets really should list both A-GPS and GPS, but very few do. The industry has long adopted the practice of just mentioning A-GPS, which is implied to mean it also supports GPS. Simply looking at Nokia's other spec sheets already gives you a good hint. Not a single Lumia spec sheet explicitly mentions GPS support. The Lumia 930, Lumia 1520, and the Lumia 925, no, none of them explicitly mention GPS support, only A-GPS. Yet, all of them include a fully functional GPS unit. The same is true for the Lumia 630. The spec sheet may only mention A-GPS, but it supports GPS too, just like the others. How do I know?

Many, many reasons. Here are just three:

1. The WP hardware chassis spec mandates that every WP device include a fully functional GPS unit. OEM's may not legally build a WP device without one.
2. The Lumia 630 is based on the Qualcom MSM826 SoC. Qualcomm's spec sheets and even their press release explicitly mention GPS support for that SoC!
3. Websites that are geared towards the more technical minded users actually do list both GPS and A-GPS for the Lumia 630 (for example here), but like I said, sites that care that much about technical correctness are very rare. Even OEMs think that level of detail is more likely to confuse consumers then help them.

In summary, the Lumia 630 does support GPS and A-GPS, just like every other WP device ever built.

 

[ntice_521]

The Nokia 930 specifications also don't list GPS separately. Maybe WP8.1 just simplified the sensor attributes so that GPS isn't listed twice? That seems more likely than a basic feature being removed...

 

[a5cent]

The Nokia 930 specifications also don't list GPS separately. Maybe WP8.1 just simplified the sensor attributes so that GPS isn't listed twice? That seems more likely than a basic feature being removed...

All explained in the post directly above yours ;-)