This has been brought up several times in other threads, and I think it's the most logical comparison.
If I dawn the Windows Phone Goggles and look at the 830 -really- hard, I can kind of see what MS is saying about this device being an affordable flagship. The clear black, the metal frame, the LTE, the superior camera - I get it. However, what is inexcusable is the price. MS needs to abandon the idea of profit margins on windows phones - full stop. At less than 4% of the market, there is just no way the 830 is going to sell at the sort of prices we're seeing. I think it's safe to say we're going to see a $400+ price here in the US... Who is steering this ship!?
Look at the Moto G (2nd Gen) at $180. It has 75% of the specs that matter in common with the 830. A -large- chunk of the market for this type of phone is never going to miss the LTE due to their tiny, tiny data limits and reliance on Wi-Fi. Furthermore, a 32gb card is the largest they would ever buy anyway (which is a limitation of the new G), and they couldn't care less about the metal ring around the chassis... You see where I'm going with this.
And hell let's go the other way, let's toss the new Moto X and the Samsung Alpha into the mix. For more or less an extra hundred bucks, you can get your hands on a -truly- high end device with premium features to spare...
So I can't help but look at the 830, with the prices we're seeing, and wonder who the target audience is? You've made a phone that is so overvalued that anyone who buys it will either have to knowingly waste money, or be unaware that they are wasting money. It baffles the mind.
Thank god I can use the majority of MS services on Android
Thoughts?
If I dawn the Windows Phone Goggles and look at the 830 -really- hard, I can kind of see what MS is saying about this device being an affordable flagship. The clear black, the metal frame, the LTE, the superior camera - I get it. However, what is inexcusable is the price. MS needs to abandon the idea of profit margins on windows phones - full stop. At less than 4% of the market, there is just no way the 830 is going to sell at the sort of prices we're seeing. I think it's safe to say we're going to see a $400+ price here in the US... Who is steering this ship!?
Look at the Moto G (2nd Gen) at $180. It has 75% of the specs that matter in common with the 830. A -large- chunk of the market for this type of phone is never going to miss the LTE due to their tiny, tiny data limits and reliance on Wi-Fi. Furthermore, a 32gb card is the largest they would ever buy anyway (which is a limitation of the new G), and they couldn't care less about the metal ring around the chassis... You see where I'm going with this.
And hell let's go the other way, let's toss the new Moto X and the Samsung Alpha into the mix. For more or less an extra hundred bucks, you can get your hands on a -truly- high end device with premium features to spare...
So I can't help but look at the 830, with the prices we're seeing, and wonder who the target audience is? You've made a phone that is so overvalued that anyone who buys it will either have to knowingly waste money, or be unaware that they are wasting money. It baffles the mind.
Thank god I can use the majority of MS services on Android
Thoughts?