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  1. Ryan Burke's Avatar
    Call me old fashioned, but when you demo these cool camera features with tons of speed that lumia has never really had before, and get everyone super excited... You're phone should probably launch with access to those features.

    Withholding the demin powered camera app for Rubino-knows what reasons is a little baffling.

    Crazy theories:
    They're purposely holding back the Lumia Camera app because it's not living up to the hype, and AT&T fears mass returns - so they are dragging it out past week 1 purchase return windows, lol ;)

    Something in the coming DP update is needed for Lumia Camera to work properly.

    Thoughts?
    11-13-2014 01:11 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Maybe it will be released once Denim is ready for everyone?

    Just a thought. I know it's a pain to wait but it is MS and WP after all.
    ven07 likes this.
    11-13-2014 04:09 AM
  3. Ryan Burke's Avatar
    Maybe.

    But think of how nice it would be to demo that speed and those features to potential WP customers? Might sell some 830's that way.
    11-13-2014 04:22 AM
  4. Senrir's Avatar
    I think when windows 10 is ready.
    Ryan Burke, Kevin Rush and ven07 like this.
    11-13-2014 04:26 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I think when windows 10 is ready.
    Yeah... so instead of in the next couple of months they'll wait until 6 or so months.. yeah, makes sense. Considering they said it required the Denim update.
    11-13-2014 04:43 AM
  6. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Maybe.

    But think of how nice it would be to demo that speed and those features to potential WP customers? Might sell some 830's that way.
    Does anything MS do make sense?
    Ryan Burke, techiez and Kevin Rush like this.
    11-13-2014 04:43 AM
  7. SnailUK's Avatar
    Does anything MS do make sense?
    Can they do anything right though?

    They show something early, people moan they don't want to wait.

    They don't show something till its ready, people moan that nothing interesting is happening.
    aximtreo and a5cent like this.
    11-13-2014 05:37 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Can they do anything right though?

    They show something early, people moan they don't want to wait.

    They don't show something till its ready, people moan that nothing interesting is happening.
    With WP they seem to not get it right. It's called announcing something and then giving a date for it when it's ready. Simple. Unfortunately they can't seem to figure this out so you get people upset both ways. That's really the issue. It's not that hard.

    I'll keep my opinions of the Band release to myself as others have hinted that I might be ranting too much about it. :P
    Ryan Burke, a5cent and techiez like this.
    11-13-2014 05:43 AM
  9. HelloLudger's Avatar
    Can they do anything right though?

    They show something early, people moan they don't want to wait.

    They don't show something till its ready, people moan that nothing interesting is happening.

    They could. But it seems like they decided to not do things right.
    It's not like e force them to be as slow as a snail with everything they do with WP.

    They had some momentum with 8.1, but that's long gone. And now we are in the wait-for-the-next-mayor-version-coming-in-6-to-9-months mode. Again.
    anon(8776042) likes this.
    11-13-2014 05:55 AM
  10. Ryan Burke's Avatar
    Sure seems that way.

    What I glean from twitter (following various Windows personalities) is that, namely with the open sourcing of .NET that just went down, Microsoft has revealed their plan B - Android. Some are already guessing that Windows 10 for mobile will simply be a forked android distribution, similar to Amazon's Fire OS efforts.

    Obviously it's too early to say something like that and truly mean it, but it's an interesting thought.
    11-13-2014 06:12 AM
  11. anon8855939's Avatar
    Maybe it will be released once Denim is ready for everyone?

    Just a thought. I know it's a pain to wait but it is MS and WP after all.
    you are absolutely right.
    "Pray fro denim, You'll get Lumia camera"
    11-13-2014 06:18 AM
  12. Geddeeee's Avatar
    Sure seems that way.

    What I glean from twitter (following various Windows personalities) is that, namely with the open sourcing of .NET that just went down, Microsoft has revealed their plan B - Android. Some are already guessing that Windows 10 for mobile will simply be a forked android distribution, similar to Amazon's Fire OS efforts.

    Obviously it's too early to say something like that and truly mean it, but it's an interesting thought.
    Seriously?? Are we back to this BS again?????
    11-13-2014 06:23 AM
  13. Ryan Burke's Avatar
    Seriously?? Are we back to this BS again?????
    We're back, baby! lol
    11-13-2014 06:26 AM
  14. runamuck83's Avatar
    Sure seems that way.

    What I glean from twitter (following various Windows personalities) is that, namely with the open sourcing of .NET that just went down, Microsoft has revealed their plan B - Android. Some are already guessing that Windows 10 for mobile will simply be a forked android distribution, similar to Amazon's Fire OS efforts.

    Obviously it's too early to say something like that and truly mean it, but it's an interesting thought.
    I think you're living in a fantasy.
    11-13-2014 01:14 PM
  15. tgp's Avatar
    I think you're living in a fantasy.
    You call that a fantasy? Most would call it a nightmare!
    11-13-2014 02:30 PM
  16. runamuck83's Avatar
    You call that a fantasy? Most would call it a nightmare!
    Yes nightmare!!!
    11-13-2014 07:15 PM
  17. Ryan Burke's Avatar
    I think you're living in a fantasy.
    You call that a fantasy? Most would call it a nightmare!
    Don't get me wrong, I do not wish for anything resembling that to -ever- happen, lol.
    Just saying people are starting to notice how it -could- happen; these multi-platform efforts MS has been making can be seen, in a certain light, as the seeds being planted for something like a forked distro on steroids - keeping just enough android java sandbox nonsense around to allow apps to be side-loaded.

    In my opinion, I don't think so. Too many security issues.
    11-13-2014 11:18 PM
  18. Vitor Salvatore Pierce's Avatar
    Lumia Denim is taking too long, dear god.
    11-14-2014 03:42 AM
  19. runamuck83's Avatar
    Lumia Denim is taking too long, dear god.
    Hell I have denim on my 830, but I DO NOT have the most touted feature.... LUMIA CAMERA! Where the f is it???

    How do you announce a phone, spend an hour talking about how great the new camera app is and release the phone without said app??? Wtf Microsoft... For the love of god, please please get your stuff together
    11-14-2014 05:49 AM
  20. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Exactly! And all the reviews of the 830 would have been much better!!! In 80% of all reviews, one of the few cons was the slow camera!
    With Lumia camera they would have had one con less, and one pro more!!! IDIOTS!!!!

    And where is the problem to give Lumia camera just to 830 users? Because then 930 users are upset? Come on....
    11-14-2014 06:13 AM
  21. runamuck83's Avatar
    Exactly! And all the reviews of the 830 would have been much better!!! In 80% of all reviews, one of the few cons was the slow camera!
    With Lumia camera they would have had one con less, and one pro more!!! IDIOTS!!!!

    And where is the problem to give Lumia camera just to 830 users? Because then 930 users are upset? Come on....
    Yea, I mean I f'n love Windows Phone and I honestly have no desire to switch. It suites my needs quite well and I enjoy using it -

    But when you see stuff like this happen you can't help but go ... "ARRRGGGHH!! MICROSOFT!!!!!!"
    TruPlaya187 likes this.
    11-14-2014 07:06 AM
  22. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Correct. They tease you on the IFA, and then let you wait 2 months now!
    Then they change the name to Lumia camera, without any changes.
    Well, there is nothing we can do. But I get the feeling there is something wrong...
    11-14-2014 08:06 AM
  23. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Someone got twitter account and can ask ms please?!
    11-14-2014 08:06 AM
  24. runamuck83's Avatar
    Someone got twitter account and can ask ms please?!
    I did - I got the following response: "Stay tuned!" .... I'm tuned, let's go already!

    11-14-2014 10:40 AM
  25. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Great....losers
    11-14-2014 04:05 PM
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