Lumia 650 and 750

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I think their strategy to release one "value" phone - 550 -, one midrange/business oriented and one high end - 950/XL - is fine, I just don't think the the naming convention makes sense if they call the middle model 650. Regardless of the specs, if they decided on this 3 tier arrangement and called the base 550 and the top 950, they should call the middle one 750.
The Business/Enterprise offering is the only segment not covered yet. I'm hoping for something in the 2G Ram 16Gig storage range. That would fill that segment nicely,
 

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1. They work, and work well - will people notice? Not at lower price points necessarily.
2. They're cheaper, saves money.
3. Since they were around longer, they can be worked with sooner.

Lower end phones are about "good enough" rather than putting in the highest numbers possible.

Or possibly the Lumia 650 should have Snapdragon 415 at 1.4 GHz 2gbRam/16 gb Rom, being on par with at least next year Moto G 4th generation. People care about specifications, and why not, because that are the things that largely determine the performance of the phone, particularly SOC (processor), that is similar to the brain for humans.
Micromax Canvas Nitro 4G E455 in India has Snapdragon 415 1.4 GHz octa-core processor having Android phone for price of around 165-170 $.
And Snapdragon 415 is not bigger not only in number than Snapdragon 410, but also has improved GPU over Snapdragon 410.
 
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Or possibly the Lumia 650 should have Snapdragon 415 at 1.4 GHz 2gbRam/16 gb Rom, being on par with at least next year Moto G 4th generation. People care about specifications, and why not, because that are the things that largely determine the performance of the phone, particularly SOC (processor), that is similar to the brain for humans.
Micromax Nitro 4G in India has Snapdragon 415 1.4 GHz octa-core processor having Android phone for price of around 165-170 $.
And Snapdragon 415 is not bigger not only in number than Snapdragon 410, but also has improved GPU over Snapdragon 410, better manufacturing process (28 nm HPm process, same process as used for Snapdragon 800 series processors till Snapdragon 805).

I cant argue with RAM and memory, but does the benefits of a 410 or 415 have enough performance improvements to warrant the price hike? Better manufacturing process and GPU sure, but to what extent?
 

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I cant argue with RAM and memory, but does the benefits of a 410 or 415 have enough performance improvements to warrant the price hike? Better manufacturing process and GPU sure, but to what extent?
The manufacturing process used to manufacture Snapdragon 618, 620 processors is the same process used for previous Snapdragon 800 series ( Snapdragon 800, 801, 805, the 28 nm HPm process) that would make the processors for speedy performance that was not attainable in old Snapdragon 615, 616 and 617 processors due to their manufacturing upon 28 nm LP node process, giving the old processors much heating upon much and intensive usages. This makes SOCs 618 and 620 perfect for use in Lumia 750 and 850, which will be on par SOCs compared to 2016 Android phones.
And sorry for wrong information due to misinformation taken by myself, the Snapdragon 415 is made on same 28 nm LP node as Snapdragon 400, 410, 412.
GPUs are LPDDR3 based ( Single channel 667 Mhz for Adreno 405 in Snapdragon 415; and Adreno 510, dual channel 933 Mhz for Snapdragon 618, 620) which improves the graphics and display processes over their predecessors (Snapdragon 410, 615).
 
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Is Lumia 650 worth?

Im impressed with the looks and planning to buy lumia 650 over 640/640xl but im a lil disappointed with the processor it has(though rumours).
Is SD210/212 faster or = than SD400?
 

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Re: Is Lumia 650 worth?

well it's hard to tell with only tumors

well, the SD212 I think is capable of playing 1080p video smoothly, something the 200 couldn't IIRC so we got that going for us...
 

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Re: Is Lumia 650 worth?

Personally i feel msft need to just stop with all the down range Nokia rubbish they keep rebadging and concentrate on the os and fix it, asking with designing a proper flagship phone. Given the frankly ridiculous Enterprise discounts other OEMs are providing it's no wonder msft are struggling in this space. I can't see this meager changing msfts already lackluster position.
 
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