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08-23-2016 05:24 AM
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  1. maxmin's Avatar
    The Lumia 650, regardless of whether aimed at Business, should at least be a minor upgrade from the 640 otherwise what's the point of the numbering scheme? I don't want to upgrade to a flagship device and the 550 is too low end. The Lumia 640, for me at least, is the current 'Goldilocks' device but if the CPU in the newer 650 is not an improvement then there wouldn't anywhere to go, at least for some time.




    The specs look pretty similar to the current 640. I think the big reason for the "new" model is that it will be pre-installed with Windows 10. Even though the 640 is upgradable ( I have been running Win 10 Insider on mine for a month and no major issues) many people are put off by needing to upgrade. And many corp IT types do not want to subject their fellow employees with need to upgrade right away. The 650 will be out of the box, ready to go with a fairly stable Win 10 OS by late Feb or March. It seems the Lumia x5x models all come with Win 10 installed.
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    01-06-2016 01:47 PM
  2. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    The specs look pretty similar to the current 640. I think the big reason for the "new" model is that it will be pre-installed with Windows 10. Even though the 640 is upgradable ( I have been running Win 10 Insider on mine for a month and no major issues) many people are put off by needing to upgrade. And many corp IT types do not want to subject their fellow employees with need to upgrade right away. The 650 will be out of the box, ready to go with a fairly stable Win 10 OS by late Feb or March. It seems the Lumia x5x models all come with Win 10 installed.
    I can understand it coming pre-installed with Windows 10 as being a plus, but why the downgrade in CPU? I'm certainly not one of those who thinks they should have an Octocore in every phone, but one would think it should at least be comparable.

    The biggest issue though, seems that it doesn't have LTE according to Venturebeat. Unless it's a bottom of the barrel phone, they shouldn't even be coming to market without LTE anymore. I certainly wouldn't even consider a phone without LTE now.
    01-07-2016 11:37 AM
  3. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    Continuum is now a "must have" feature for me. I will likely recommend the 650 to friends & family but my phone of choice will continue to be the 950XL until something better is available.
    01-07-2016 11:39 AM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    This http://www.neowin.net/news/huawei-an...99-from-jan-31 is what $199 gets you in 2016, anything less in the 650 should not be priced higher.
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    01-07-2016 12:19 PM
  5. Jigneshon's Avatar
    I'm gonna buy it...
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    01-08-2016 10:27 AM
  6. Schnuffi's Avatar
    Upgraded my 630 for a 640 when I should of waited.The 650 is gonna need at least a 410 processor for me to upgrade again.If they cut a load of corners again,I'll have to seriously think about moving to android
    Why I think a 640 is a great phone for the price I think you would have to pay more for an android device that works just as well. And most android devices never get updated.
    01-09-2016 03:56 AM
  7. petgutt's Avatar
    Most likely i will buy it.
    It looks like the release date will be 20th february...
    01-10-2016 01:43 AM
  8. HeyCori's Avatar
    Tells himself he won't buy it.
    Will eventually cave in when its like $40.
    01-10-2016 02:02 PM
  9. MrRichardF's Avatar
    Wireless charging makes it tempting. If the SoC is a Snapdragon 4**, I'm sold. If it isn't... I'll pass. I feel sorry for the team responsible for designing the phone so nicely only to have a cost-cutting Snapdragon 212 shoved in it.
    01-10-2016 11:01 PM
  10. OneillM's Avatar
    The fact that it is highly unlikely that it will not come with Windows Hello is a real turn off for me.
    Although the new metallic design of it is very nice way better than the plastic body older lumias.
    01-12-2016 12:02 PM
  11. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    I'm a BlackBerry refugee. BB10 is dying a slow and painful death (in retrospect it was DOA) and I have tried numerous times force myself to like Android, but I just can't do it.

    I am very cost-conscious when it comes to the tech I use. I refuse to get locked into a contract or go into debt over a phone, so I prefer to buy mine off-contract and use a MVNO (Ting).

    If money were no object for me, I'd probably get an iPhone or a Lumia 950 XL. But money IS a concern for me and there are many, many things I'd rather spend money on than a phone.

    Low and mid-range Windows phones hit a sweet spot as far as bang-for-the-buck. I used a Lumia 521 as my daily driver a couple years back and was thoroughly impressed at what I got for my money.

    If the renders are true, I think the Lumia 650 looks fantastic. It'll be the best-looking Windows 10 phone so far. The specs don't concern me nearly as much as real-world performance. Windows phones are known for getting a lot out of low-end hardware, so I'm not really concerned.

    If it is around $200 off-contract and they sell an unlocked GSM model, I'll very seriously consider getting one.

    So I'm definitely leaning "yes" on this one.
    01-12-2016 04:40 PM
  12. SammyD97's Avatar
    I'm very tempted I have to admit but will see when released.
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    01-12-2016 04:54 PM
  13. Furt's Avatar
    I'm a BlackBerry refugee. BB10 is dying a slow and painful death (in retrospect it was DOA) and I have tried numerous times force myself to like Android, but I just can't do it.

    I am very cost-conscious when it comes to the tech I use. I refuse to get locked into a contract or go into debt over a phone, so I prefer to buy mine off-contract and use a MVNO (Ting).

    If money were no object for me, I'd probably get an iPhone or a Lumia 950 XL. But money IS a concern for me and there are many, many things I'd rather spend money on than a phone.

    Low and mid-range Windows phones hit a sweet spot as far as bang-for-the-buck. I used a Lumia 521 as my daily driver a couple years back and was thoroughly impressed at what I got for my money.

    If the renders are true, I think the Lumia 650 looks fantastic. It'll be the best-looking Windows 10 phone so far. The specs don't concern me nearly as much as real-world performance. Windows phones are known for getting a lot out of low-end hardware, so I'm not really concerned.

    If it is around $200 off-contract and they sell an unlocked GSM model, I'll very seriously consider getting one.

    So I'm definitely leaning "yes" on this one.
    suuuper off-topic, but how it Ting? windows phone's data saver feature made me thing about looking into ting and get off the $45 straight talk plan.
    01-13-2016 04:41 PM
  14. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    suuuper off-topic, but how it Ting? windows phone's data saver feature made me thing about looking into ting and get off the $45 straight talk plan.
    Coverage is not as good because it uses T-Mobile towers and Straight Talk uses AT&T. Also, if you use a lot of data Ting can be more expensive than Straight Talk. I like Ting because it gives me more control over what I pay each month and I only pay for what I use. Their customer service is also the best I've experienced with any carrier.
    01-14-2016 08:10 AM
  15. Sedp23's Avatar
    I'll pass seems more like a downgrade to me

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    01-14-2016 08:29 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Straight Talk uses AT&T
    FWIW Straight Talk will activate an ATT style or T-Mo style SIM. They also will activate branded devices in good standing onto Vzw or Sprint. They do any of the 4 majors as an mvno.
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    01-14-2016 03:34 PM
  17. Schnuffi's Avatar
    I'm a BlackBerry refugee. BB10 is dying a slow and painful death (in retrospect it was DOA) and I have tried numerous times force myself to like Android, but I just can't do it.

    I am very cost-conscious when it comes to the tech I use. I refuse to get locked into a contract or go into debt over a phone, so I prefer to buy mine off-contract and use a MVNO (Ting).

    If money were no object for me, I'd probably get an iPhone or a Lumia 950 XL. But money IS a concern for me and there are many, many things I'd rather spend money on than a phone.

    Low and mid-range Windows phones hit a sweet spot as far as bang-for-the-buck. I used a Lumia 521 as my daily driver a couple years back and was thoroughly impressed at what I got for my money.

    If the renders are true, I think the Lumia 650 looks fantastic. It'll be the best-looking Windows 10 phone so far. The specs don't concern me nearly as much as real-world performance. Windows phones are known for getting a lot out of low-end hardware, so I'm not really concerned.

    If it is around $200 off-contract and they sell an unlocked GSM model, I'll very seriously consider getting one.

    So I'm definitely leaning "yes" on this one.
    I think if if I was getting another phone now I would just get another 640 I think you you get the most bang for the buck.
    01-15-2016 07:15 AM
  18. Sedp23's Avatar
    I think if if I was getting another phone now I would just get another 640 I think you you get the most bang for the buck.

    That Alcatel touch fierce xl is looking nice

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    01-16-2016 11:08 AM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    hell no. I'm sticking with my 640 as most are. The 650 is a complete downgrade. there is nothing better, and the CPU and battery life are ****.
    How do you know about the battery life of a device that hasn't even come out yet?

    Personally I am looking forward to having a device with good cameras and is truly unlocked because t-mobile probably isn't going to update my phone ever.
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    01-16-2016 03:05 PM
  20. petgutt's Avatar
    Windows Central says that Lumia 650 may be The last Lumia. Is Microsoft stopping to produce phones and some new coming up?
    01-17-2016 12:35 AM
  21. Sedp23's Avatar
    Windows Central says that Lumia 650 may be The last Lumia. Is Microsoft stopping to produce phones and some new coming up?

    Their article says the last Lumia of the year not last Lumia ever

    Sent from mTalk
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    01-17-2016 04:49 AM
  22. petgutt's Avatar
    Ok. Thanks. So The last Lumia this is released in februay. Too early in The year to be The last one...
    01-17-2016 11:05 AM
  23. RumoredNow's Avatar
    FWIW, I see a hole in the Last Lumia this year theory.

    Each year, we are supposed to have Budget x 2 (550, 650), Flag x 2 (950, 950 XL), and Mid-range x2 (???)...

    Even if 650 is supposed to be mid... We are due 2 more devices.
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 01-17-2016 at 01:06 PM.
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    01-17-2016 12:56 PM
  24. trivishal's Avatar
    FWIW, I see a hole in the Last Lumia this year theory.

    Each year, we are supposed to have Budget x 2 (550, 650), Flag x 2 (950, 950 XL), and Mid-range x2 (???)...

    Even if 650 is supposed to be mid... We are due 2 more devices.
    I think that Low End Lumia 550 and 650, Mid-range Lumia 750 and 850, and Flagship Lumia 950 and 950XL, and the so-called Surface Phone which can come under Lumia name with Snapdragon 820 Or Intel chip or in both variants, I suppose, will fulfill the Lumia Smartphones models for year 2016.
    Only PROCESSORS ARE OR WOULD BE OF 2015 ANDROID SMARTPHONES IN LOW END AND MID RANGE LUMIAS, especially when Low end 2016 Android Smartphones will come with Snapdragon 425( SD 425 is equal to Snapdragon 616 in CPU+GPU configuration and speed ); and when mid-range 2016 Android Smartphones will come with Snapdragon 650 and 652 which actually beat Snapdragon 808 and Helio X10 processors (Snapdragon 808 and Helio X10 processors were 2015 flagship processors) in Antutu and other various benchmarks; and Lumia 650, 750 and 850 would still come with Snapdragon 210, 212, 410, 412, 615, 616, 617. And no actual DX12 graphics support for upcoming Lumias, except for probably Flagship Lumias( Maybe even not for Flagship Lumias).
    01-18-2016 05:14 AM
  25. Schnuffi's Avatar
    Didn't MS say they would make a budget a midrange and a business model if no one came on board with windows phones. Seem at least a couple of other phone makers are now on board.
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    01-23-2016 09:53 AM
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