1. XToro's Avatar
    I ordered my 650 a couple weeks ago and it's arriving today. After looking at the MS site from other regions, it seems buying from the Canadian site is cheapest (which is where I bought it from). Canada and US are both $199 in their own currencies. So buying from the Canadian site at $199CAD makes it $152 USD. UK and Europe are even more expensive coming out at $300 or more in Canadian Dollars!

    Just thought anyone who was thinking of buying might like to know this. Also take into account any customs/brokerage fees you'll have to pay when it arrives to see if it's worth it.

    I'm super stoked to get my 650. This is my 3rd Lumia to replace my ageing 920, and my first was the 800. I know some say it's more of a sidegrade than an upgrade, but I disagree. I watched many videos of people playing with the 650, and I would open the same apps at the same time as the video I was watching, and the 650 beat my 920 every time, by quite a bit. I'm also running W10M on my 920 BTW.
    04-04-2016 09:53 AM
  2. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Yay!!! I'm excited for you.
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    04-04-2016 11:22 AM
  3. js-playround's Avatar
    Enjoy your new phone!! As someone who replaced their 920 (with w10 on it too) with the 650 it's more than adequate IMO.
    04-04-2016 03:53 PM
  4. RumoredNow's Avatar
    it's arriving today
    Is there a label on the box that shows what frequencies the phone has?

    Can you list them?

    If not, can you get into Field Test and look?
    04-04-2016 05:14 PM
  5. justinnowak's Avatar
    Enjoy, just picked mine up Friday to try out when I was getting my Surface Book. I am pleasantly surprised by the build, and how smooth it operates!
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    04-04-2016 11:44 PM
  6. XToro's Avatar
    Yes I am MORE than happy with my 650! It's so much better than my 920 was and surprisingly fast.

    I actually wrote my experience in comparison to my 920 in another thread here (it's quite long so I won't repost it) : http://forums.windowscentral.com/mic...ml#post3457211

    Is there a label on the box that shows what frequencies the phone has?

    Can you list them?

    If not, can you get into Field Test and look?
    Yes there are lots of bands and frequencies listed in the booklet, I took a pic because there's lots on there. The LTE is great and very fast.

    wp_20160408_10_07_13_rich.jpg
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    04-08-2016 11:18 AM
  7. BenLumia's Avatar
    I'm jealous.......I'm thinking to get 650 aswell but not yet in my Country...
    04-08-2016 11:27 AM
  8. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I took a pic because there's lots on there.
    Awesome Sauce. Thanks very much.
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    04-08-2016 12:22 PM
  9. Sergiusz Jasper's Avatar
    Mine is to show up tomorrow by FedEx and definitely Canadian price is best.
    04-11-2016 07:01 PM
  10. ma678's Avatar
    Interesting it even supports TD LTE 38, 39, and 40 that are deployed by China Mobile; however, it does not support FD LTE 700mHz (17) that is coming from Big 3 soon.

    Does anyone know if LTE 700mHz (28) is compatible with 700mHz (17) in Canada?
    04-19-2016 01:22 AM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Interesting it even supports TD LTE 38, 39, and 40 that are deployed by China Mobile; however, it does not support FD LTE 700mHz (17) that is coming from Big 3 soon.

    Does anyone know if LTE 700mHz (28) is compatible with 700mHz (17) in Canada?
    I don't believe there is any interoperability possible there. All of the downlink spectrum on Band 28 (758 – 803 MHz) lies outside of the downlink range for Band 17 (734 – 746 MHz).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_fr...nel_bandwidths
    04-19-2016 11:16 AM
  12. Sergiusz Jasper's Avatar
    Well since 650 arrived it gets LTE with missing band 17 but only in strong network areas otherwise it's in H or 3g

    That is on Rogers Fido network
    04-19-2016 11:19 AM
  13. XToro's Avatar
    I get great LTE coverage all over Edmonton. Even in The Hamptons suburbs I get good LTE in my house. But at home I'm always connected to my WiFi anyways...
    04-19-2016 11:58 AM
  14. XToro's Avatar
    Oh and I'm with Virgin Mobile.
    04-19-2016 11:59 AM
  15. ma678's Avatar
    So disappointed that 650 is lack of Band 17.
    04-21-2016 03:08 AM
  16. XToro's Avatar
    So disappointed that 650 is lack of Band 17.
    Why? What's the issue with not having band 17? I have a 650 and LTE works great. I'm in Edmonton Alberta...
    04-21-2016 01:25 PM
  17. Sergiusz Jasper's Avatar
    Why? What's the issue with not having band 17? I have a 650 and LTE works great. I'm in Edmonton Alberta...
    Depending on provider, it's hit and miss
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    04-21-2016 01:34 PM
  18. ma678's Avatar
    Band 17 has better ability to penetrate concrete building. Is there any way I can enable it on this device? Doesn't its soc support B17 while 640 supports it?
    04-24-2016 03:59 AM
  19. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Band 17 has better ability to penetrate concrete building. Is there any way I can enable it on this device? Doesn't its soc support B17 while 640 supports it?
    We need someone with an NA variant to try accessing Field Test (##3282# in the dialer) > Accept > ellipses (...) > Settings > Network Type set this to manual > Tap box under the label: "Supported bands" (and make note if it says "all bands active" or "x/y bands active") > Write down what Bands are in the ROM for GSM/WCDMA/LTE and note which are active OOB and which can be enabled...
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    04-24-2016 10:55 AM
  20. ma678's Avatar
    Maybe OP is able to help test because he uses his 650 on Bell/Virgin Mobile in Canada.
    04-25-2016 03:29 AM
  21. XToro's Avatar
    We need someone with an NA variant to try accessing Field Test (##3282# in the dialer) > Accept > ellipses (...) > Settings > Network Type set this to manual > Tap box under the label: "Supported bands" (and make note if it says "all bands active" or "x/y bands active") > Write down what Bands are in the ROM for GSM/WCDMA/LTE and note which are active OOB and which can be enabled...
    Ok, so I got around to doing this, but, in my Field Test, I don't have "Network Type", but I do have "Band Locking". It shows me the supported and active bands, which are as follows:

    Band 1
    Band 2
    Band 3
    Band 4
    Band 5
    Band 7
    Band 8
    Band 20
    Band 28
    Band 38
    Band 39
    Band 40 (was unchecked, but was able to activate it)
    Band 41
    GSM DCS 1800
    E GSM 900
    B1-WCDMA 2100
    B2-WCDMA 1900
    B4-WCDMA US 1700
    B5-WCDMA US 850
    B8-WCDMA E/J 900

    Hope that makes sense and helps. For some reason I'm unable to take screenshots while in the Field Test app...
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    04-25-2016 09:31 AM
  22. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Ok, so I got around to doing this,
    Thank you. That's about as definitive as it gets then. Shows what is capable within the ROM. No LTE Band 12 or 17 then. Which is odd because we have lots of that around.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_fr...ents_by_region
    libra89 and ma678 like this.
    04-25-2016 11:28 AM
  23. Sergiusz Jasper's Avatar
    Thank you. That's about as definitive as it gets then. Shows what is capable within the ROM. No LTE Band 12 or 17 then. Which is odd because we have lots of that around.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_fr...ents_by_region
    Still works on LTE with band 4 and 7 just not as good at least on Rogers Fido network but it's there.
    04-25-2016 11:33 AM
  24. XToro's Avatar
    I work in an old brick and concrete building built in the 60's outside of the city. I get 1 bar of LTE, and my Speedtest.net app still shows 9MB/s download speeds, 1MB/s upload and 150ms ping. If I roll over to my window, I get 2 bars with 15MB down, 3 up, same ping. Can't really complain about that lol
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    04-25-2016 11:57 AM

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