05-30-2013 01:33 PM
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  1. Flagz's Avatar
    Alot of people are really not thinking about this. Alot of non exclusive games are going to play on both consoles (PS4 & XBOX1) just as previous consoles and were still going to get exclusives (Halo, Forza, GOW) so why are people complaining? Microsoft wouldn't release a console that's power is so far behind the PS4. Microsoft did what they had to do today, differentiate themselves from the competition. Besides the controller, when I play MW3 on the Xbox, its the same on the PS3. This is a game console first and its gonna do that well. Now when you look at both systems in store, your gonna think which gives you the best bang for your buck and that's gonna be which console offer more than the other. Maybe I'm alone here, but I think they did EXACTLY what they needed, to show that they have MORE to offer.
    05-22-2013 03:38 AM
  2. martinmc78's Avatar
    I agree with you completely - that launch wasn't aimed at kids who like to post noob tube kills to social networking sites. The launched was aimed firmly at adults. The lack of games shown didn't bother me at all as I know like you that's what they will show off at E3. They showed off the tech that makes you want one as the centre of your living room.

    The Kinect integration with the TV, smartphones and tablets blew me away. Did you notice how quick it reacted when he pulled out his 920? The input was almost instant.

    The deal with EA sports is exciting too - they will push the games further using xbox one capabilities than what will be available on PS4.

    That unveiling was just a taster of what's to come and to get all the non gaming capabilities out of the way. E3 has everyone in one place and I believe MS are preparing to blow the competition out of the water. Not just with graphics and the titles but with what the functions of the One will allow you to do with those games.
    05-22-2013 04:02 AM
  3. smoledman's Avatar
    This was aimed squarely at the 30+ club. You know those that have money to spend. let the kids have their iPad Minis.
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    05-22-2013 04:09 AM
  4. Flagz's Avatar
    Exactly, the One can be "just another console" that runs most games and Halo. Instead Microsoft is going in the right direction by showing you it can do ALOT of other things INCLUDING running games. (Mind you I'm saying this and probably won't use 1/2 of its features seeing as I play 6 hours if Halo a day)
    05-22-2013 04:14 AM
  5. martinmc78's Avatar
    Ahh man I wish I could play halo 6 hours a day.
    05-22-2013 04:51 AM
  6. EDDS's Avatar
    100% agree with the OP.

    The games will come at E3, the fact they said they have 15 exclusives launching within a year and 8 are new IP's firmly reassured me this is still first and foremost a games console.
    05-22-2013 05:34 AM
  7. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    This was aimed squarely at the 30+ club. You know those that have money to spend. let the kids have their iPad Minis.
    So far the price rumors suggest $500 for the console's normal total cost. This is insanely cheap considering that the Xbox 360 and PS3 launched with the same prices.

    This is affordable to anyone.
    05-22-2013 08:20 AM
  8. Flagz's Avatar
    The comments on other sites are getting ridiculous saying that Microsoft failed with the Xbox One because you can "talk to your Kinect, watch tv and Skype" then the user went on to say that he just "wants to play games" so he has no need for the Xbox One.

    JUST PLAY GAMES if you want. If someone hands you a fully loaded car for the same price as a standard car, just take the fully loaded car. Whether you want to use the features now is irrelevant, but its always good to have options. People are so close minded...
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    05-22-2013 08:41 AM
  9. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    The comments on other sites are getting ridiculous saying that Microsoft failed with the Xbox One because you can "talk to your Kinect, watch tv and Skype" then the user went on to say that he just "wants to play games" so he has no need for the Xbox One.

    JUST PLAY GAMES if you want. If someone hands you a fully loaded car for the same price as a standard car, just take the fully loaded car. Whether you want to use the features now is irrelevant, but its always good to have options. People are so close minded...
    If I ever found out people I know in real life thought with the same mindset, I would cease to associate myself with them. That kind of stupidity is nothing I want to have to deal with.

    I want to make an internet thread where people can try to propose valid arguments as to why the PS4 is better than the Xbox One. Then, I could update the original post with their argument followed by mine, ripping them to pieces.

    With the power of the cloud, the Xbox One has TWICE the power of a PS4 at a minimum. How is there any logical argument that the PS4 is better for gaming!?...
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    05-22-2013 08:48 AM
  10. martinmc78's Avatar
    If I ever found out people I know in real life thought with the same mindset, I would cease to associate myself with them. That kind of stupidity is nothing I want to have to deal with.

    I want to make an internet thread where people can try to propose valid arguments as to why the PS4 is better than the Xbox One. Then, I could update the original post with their argument followed by mine, ripping them to pieces.

    With the power of the cloud, the Xbox One has TWICE the power of a PS4 at a minimum. How is there any logical argument that the PS4 is better for gaming!?...
    Think I would join you on that thread. You know I like to argue

    With all the additional servers MS are providing - what was it 15000 for the 360 to 300,000 for the Xbox One? I'm really looking forward to what devs can do in terms of MMORPG's and the multiplayer match sizes for FPS games - too long has the 360 had to suffer 16 players max. Would love to see the next iteration of Halo and Battlefield 4 with 64 player multiplayer.
    05-22-2013 09:13 AM
  11. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    Think I would join you on that thread. You know I like to argue

    With all the additional servers MS are providing - what was it 15000 for the 360 to 300,000 for the Xbox One? I'm really looking forward to what devs can do in terms of MMORPG's and the multiplayer match sizes for FPS games - too long has the 360 had to suffer 16 players max. Would love to see the next iteration of Halo and Battlefield 4 with 64 player multiplayer.
    I think that 64 is a number that will be dwarfed.

    Destiny is an open world universe on one cloud. Think of an mmorpg, like World of Warcraft, but without different realms. Players are not separated to different servers/worlds according to region or choice. I think we will see games where there are over 100 players on the screen at once.

    With the Azure Cloud, it's areas of gaming like this (player count and scalability) that will make Xbox One unrivaled.
    05-22-2013 09:58 AM
  12. EDDS's Avatar
    I don't even know how they are going to get Destiny to run on the PS4, are bungie going to have to do all the grunt work themselves for servers etc seeing as PS doesn't have anything like what MSFT announced.
    05-22-2013 10:11 AM
  13. MerlotC's Avatar
    Think I would join you on that thread. You know I like to argue

    With all the additional servers MS are providing - what was it 15000 for the 360 to 300,000 for the Xbox One? I'm really looking forward to what devs can do in terms of MMORPG's and the multiplayer match sizes for FPS games - too long has the 360 had to suffer 16 players max. Would love to see the next iteration of Halo and Battlefield 4 with 64 player multiplayer.
    And with dedicated servers now for all online games there wont be anymore host leaving issues.
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    05-23-2013 01:53 AM
  14. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I agree with you completely - that launch wasn't aimed at kids who like to post noob tube kills to social networking sites. The launched was aimed firmly at adults. The lack of games shown didn't bother me at all as I know like you that's what they will show off at E3. They showed off the tech that makes you want one as the centre of your living room.

    The Kinect integration with the TV, smartphones and tablets blew me away. Did you notice how quick it reacted when he pulled out his 920? The input was almost instant.

    The deal with EA sports is exciting too - they will push the games further using xbox one capabilities than what will be available on PS4.

    That unveiling was just a taster of what's to come and to get all the non gaming capabilities out of the way. E3 has everyone in one place and I believe MS are preparing to blow the competition out of the water. Not just with graphics and the titles but with what the functions of the One will allow you to do with those games.
    Don't toot the EA horn just yet. They've canceled their last 3 installments of their NBA games, simply because they were too bad to sell. Actually, it might have only been 2, I think they completely skipped the 2012 circuit because they had nothing to offer.
    05-23-2013 11:09 AM
  15. martinmc78's Avatar
    Don't toot the EA horn just yet. They've canceled their last 3 installments of their NBA games, simply because they were too bad to sell. Actually, it might have only been 2, I think they completely skipped the 2012 circuit because they had nothing to offer.
    Not a basketball fan im afraid so whether the last 2 or 3 games were rubbish doesn't matter FIFA and Madden im more interested in and have always been quality offerings from EA - Toot Toot
    05-23-2013 11:36 AM
  16. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Not a basketball fan im afraid so whether the last 2 or 3 games were rubbish doesn't matter FIFA and Madden im more interested in and have always been quality offerings from EA - Toot Toot
    I wouldn't know, as I hadn't bought an EA title in 5 years until yesterday, when I bought NBA Jam on my Lumia 920. Their Online Pass was the biggest mistake I've ever witnessed in gaming, and I refused to buy from them until they announced its demise a few days ago (which is why I bought NBA Jam). However, I can definitively say that I have played every Madden from 06-12, and the ONLY improvement I can say that was noticeable was the inclusion of Ultimate Team. The AI was still as dumb as ever in 12, and while I've not played 13 myself, I've heard from folks that 13 really wasn't a big step up. As for FIFA--I played the 06 World Cup one and no other. It was OK, but I'm American, and we just don't care about soccer here, so it ends up being no fun to play with a bunch of no-named athletes at a sport we never televise.
    05-23-2013 03:18 PM
  17. martinmc78's Avatar
    I wouldn't know, as I hadn't bought an EA title in 5 years until yesterday, when I bought NBA Jam on my Lumia 920. Their Online Pass was the biggest mistake I've ever witnessed in gaming, and I refused to buy from them until they announced its demise a few days ago (which is why I bought NBA Jam). However, I can definitively say that I have played every Madden from 06-12, and the ONLY improvement I can say that was noticeable was the inclusion of Ultimate Team. The AI was still as dumb as ever in 12, and while I've not played 13 myself, I've heard from folks that 13 really wasn't a big step up. As for FIFA--I played the 06 World Cup one and no other. It was OK, but I'm American, and we just don't care about soccer here, so it ends up being no fun to play with a bunch of no-named athletes at a sport we never televise.
    I give up... Your American so Americans don't care about soccer??
    05-24-2013 03:30 AM
  18. smoledman's Avatar
    You have a bunch of 14yo angry pimply-faced boys nerd-raging over nothing.
    05-24-2013 04:21 AM
  19. Courtney S's Avatar
    I wouldn't know, as I hadn't bought an EA title in 5 years until yesterday, when I bought NBA Jam on my Lumia 920. Their Online Pass was the biggest mistake I've ever witnessed in gaming, and I refused to buy from them until they announced its demise a few days ago (which is why I bought NBA Jam). However, I can definitively say that I have played every Madden from 06-12, and the ONLY improvement I can say that was noticeable was the inclusion of Ultimate Team. The AI was still as dumb as ever in 12, and while I've not played 13 myself, I've heard from folks that 13 really wasn't a big step up. As for FIFA--I played the 06 World Cup one and no other. It was OK, but I'm American, and we just don't care about soccer here, so it ends up being no fun to play with a bunch of no-named athletes at a sport we never televise.
    That's a pretty silly comment. You're saying most Americans don't like one of the best selling video game franchises? Uh, I don't think so. I knew more people who played fifa in college than Madden. And I have not played Madden since two console gens ago.
    05-24-2013 12:28 PM
  20. Odog4ever's Avatar
    Yeah the kids with no money (and can't use Ebay) are crying over used games and old heads (30+) who have boxes of old video game in their basement are crying about no backwards compatibility. Yet both of these groups buy smart phone games which suffer from the same issues...
    05-26-2013 08:26 PM
  21. Steven Garrigus's Avatar
    Yeah the kids with no money (and can't use Ebay) are crying over used games and old heads (30+) who have boxes of old video game in their basement are crying about no backwards compatibility. Yet both of these groups buy smart phone games which suffer from the same issues...
    Just saying, but there is a big difference between a $60 + game purchase and a $2.99 smartphone game purchase. Just saying.
    05-26-2013 11:38 PM
  22. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    That's a pretty silly comment. You're saying most Americans don't like one of the best selling video game franchises? Uh, I don't think so. I knew more people who played fifa in college than Madden. And I have not played Madden since two console gens ago.
    I'm saying soccer isn't a big-time sport in America, and it's not. It probably falls in around 6th, behind NASCAR. You can say you knew more people who played FIFA, but I can easily reply that I'm the only person I know who has played it, and that's in the 7 years since I got that game, yet I've known several people to own multiple Madden titles, myself included.
    05-27-2013 03:12 AM
  23. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Just saying, but there is a big difference between a $60 + game purchase and a $2.99 smartphone game purchase. Just saying.
    Ok, it's the same story over on PC, which people try to call the "Master Race." They get Steam sales, sure, but they still have to pay $60 without any used game industry at launch.
    05-27-2013 03:12 AM
  24. martinmc78's Avatar
    Been reading lots of comments and articles that are mostly negative towards MS and the Xbox One (I know right who would have thought that) and the few blogs and comments that have been positive. But I have been thinking more and more that MS have done things right. As reported the target audience is 30+ which rules out the majority of the hardcore gamers that have been doing the majority of the complaining. If you think about how they've arrived at the 30+ group then what they have done so far ignoring all the rumours and speculation is pretty much spot on.

    The 360 has been around for 10 years putting anyone in there 20's at launch now firmly in the 30+ bracket and as time has gone on the 360 has turned from a gaming console into the media centric device that it is now. Ive not really noticed it as time has gone on but thinking about how its transformed its fit in with my life as the years have rolled by.

    Going from my early to mid 20's where gaming sessions were 12 hour marathon sessions and playing all weekend, getting home from work and playing till 2am to my late 20's early 30's where Ive got a stable relationship and a small child. The 360 isn't so much about gaming anymore its streaming movies on Netflix having parties and getting everyone up to play on the Kinect, games for my little girl that are Kinect enabled so she too now gets involved. My mammoth gaming sessions are now limited to a four or five hour slot at the weekend when the wife and child are asleep. The 360 has grown up with me and given me exactly what I have needed without me asking for it to change.

    The Xbox One is now extending that even further - the things Ive grown up with over the last 10 years were all just a sort of training for what the Xbox One is promising to deliver. It will fit perfectly in with the way my life is and as I continue to get older will no doubt continue to evolve so that is appeals to what my children want and need. Games are not such a big part of my life anymore. While admittedly I will still try and keep the big kid inside me alive by going to midnight launches for the latest Halo or Battlefield game and playing till the early hours of the morning I know that overall my gaming time is reduced to under 10 hours a week. I don't miss it. Its just not a big part of my life anymore and have other things I would rather be doing. I believe MS have aimed the Xbox One firmly at people like me, people that were early adopters of the Xbox and the 360, people that have grown up and want things to make there lives less complicated, less cluttered.

    The negativity drummed up isn't by people like me that the product was aimed at and the negative articles are skewing the device to a section of gamers that haven't grown up and evolved along with the 360. Those people aren't seeing the bigger picture that MS and the Xbox One is aiming at.

    Maybe when they grow up they will.
    05-27-2013 08:03 AM
  25. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    I wouldn't know, as I hadn't bought an EA title in 5 years until yesterday, when I bought NBA Jam on my Lumia 920. Their Online Pass was the biggest mistake I've ever witnessed in gaming, and I refused to buy from them until they announced its demise a few days ago (which is why I bought NBA Jam). However, I can definitively say that I have played every Madden from 06-12, and the ONLY improvement I can say that was noticeable was the inclusion of Ultimate Team. The AI was still as dumb as ever in 12, and while I've not played 13 myself, I've heard from folks that 13 really wasn't a big step up. As for FIFA--I played the 06 World Cup one and no other. It was OK, but I'm American, and we just don't care about soccer here, so it ends up being no fun to play with a bunch of no-named athletes at a sport we never televise.
    You didn't miss much in Madden '13. EA has finally come out and admitted the Madden series for this generation has been disappointing (paraphrasing here. But that's essentially the gist of it).
    05-27-2013 08:11 AM
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