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  1. fpostrow's Avatar
    Again, not a great solution and also based on a lot of conjecture since the 1 is not yet out and we have heard very little about how this will work despite the heavy dose of multifunction marketing from MS. Another question is what will happen if I plug a DMA2200 into the XB1 as the cable box? They take forever to boot up but I could just leave it on 24/7 as they consume very little power and are silent compared to the 360. That could work, if it works.
    11-13-2013 01:05 PM
  2. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Well, when it comes to Media Center, there's a few things worth noticing.

    Yes, it's an amazing product, but so few people use it. The second is that apparently they are deciding within MS to move away from it in general. Perhaps something will replace the functionality, perhaps not. It's a shame it never got the spotlight it deserved, but I can't blame them for not building the Xbox One around something that a tiny fraction of people even know exists.
    As someone who has been a MC user from XP MC 2005, They did do a promtion for a while about the features of Media Center (kind of just showing that it comes with Windows Vista) and for a few months there was ads showing Media Center...

    Agreed, it never took off, wishing it did and we could see advancements but it's sad that they canceled an app that was one of the best program Microsoft ever made...
    11-13-2013 01:43 PM
  3. coip's Avatar
    So, now that you all have your hands on an Xbox One, has anyone figured out a way to input OTA TV broadcasts, preferably via Windows Media Center, into the Xbox One to make use of One's TV and OneGuide features? Or is it a lost cause?
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    11-23-2013 07:24 PM
  4. oldpueblo's Avatar
    So, now that you all have your hands on an Xbox One, has anyone figured out a way to input OTA TV broadcasts, preferably via Windows Media Center, into the Xbox One to make use of One's TV and OneGuide features? Or is it a lost cause?
    I haven't had time to fully mess with it, but quick and dirty just plugging my 360 into the Xbone has worked just fine. Under devices you can even choose Xbox as your cable box. It's worked just like before, I just have to have the 360 on of course when I want to watch TV. I made an initial attempt to get the HTPC working with the Xbone and it did technically work with two issues that aren't the Xbone's fault. I couldn't get my old IR blaster to work. I don't know if that's because it's faulty though, I haven't touched it in years. Also I couldn't get my HTPC to stretch the image fully to the TV, but I believe that's a an AMD catalyst driver issue since it doesn't do it when I plug the TV straight in either. I know I fixed it with the scaling controls before, but for some reason I can't get it to work. Media Center was also one of the cable box choices. It worked in terms of I could see the picture and stuff though which is good, I was even able to use mouse/keyboard through it of course since the Xbone just acts like a monitor. So for now I'm just passing my 360 through which extends media center, I'll figure it out later. It works exactly as it did before, but now of course I have voice control, snap, jump to gaming, IE, etc.
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    11-24-2013 09:16 AM
  5. fpostrow's Avatar
    ... Also I couldn't get my HTPC to stretch the image fully to the TV, but I believe that's a an AMD catalyst driver issue since it doesn't do it when I plug the TV straight in either.....
    Yea, just adjust the scaling settings in Catalyst and you're good to go.
    11-24-2013 09:58 AM
  6. fpostrow's Avatar
    So, now that you all have your hands on an Xbox One, has anyone figured out a way to input OTA TV broadcasts, preferably via Windows Media Center, into the Xbox One to make use of One's TV and OneGuide features? Or is it a lost cause?
    I'll be playing around with various configurations tomorrow to see what does and doesn't work.
    11-24-2013 09:59 AM
  7. coip's Avatar
    I don't have an Xbox 360. I do have an older Windows 7 PC that I was previously using to watch OTA live TV via Windows Media Center, but the PC doesn't have an HDMI port. Can I hook up the PC to the Xbox One via a VGA to HDMI converter, use external speakers connected to the PC (since the VGA to HDMI won't carry the sound over), and then watch TV via my Xbox One's OneGuide (which will read Windows Media Center as the 'cable box')? That would be great if I could do that and then use Xbox One Smartglass on my phone and Surface to navigate--or, better yet, Kinect's voice commands! Please say that I can do this.
    11-24-2013 12:17 PM
  8. Coreldan's Avatar
    I don't think anyone has managed to make OneGuide read a HTPC yet as a cable box.
    11-24-2013 12:35 PM
  9. coip's Avatar
    I don't think anyone has managed to make OneGuide read a HTPC yet as a cable box.
    Oh, okay. I guess I misread oldpueblo's post above: "Media Center was also one of the cable box choices." Thought it meant that Xbox One did see it as a cable box. I cannot believe Microsoft doesn't have integration for OTA TV. They are trying to buddy up with the cable companies, but the cable companies are not interested in helping Microsoft usurp their systems: in fact, they are opposed to it. Microsoft should be setting up the Xbox One as an alternative to cable--more and more people are cutting the cord and viewing stuff on streaming sites (Netlfix,etc.) or the Internet. Microsoft could take advantage of this, but they'd have to start by integrating Windows Media Center into Xbox One and also update IE on Xbox One to handle Flash videos.
    11-24-2013 01:06 PM
  10. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Basically without a working IR blaster the Xbone has no way to send the guide commands to the HTPC, so instead you'd just say Watch TV and then do all the channel surfing the way you've done it before (keyboard, mouse, remote). I'm pretty confident I can get it working, just haven't had time to tackle it. I have two different IR blasters I just realized, one that came with a Zotac Zbox that also bundled in a windows media center remote. Might just require a driver install.

    Since the 360 works "as is" in extender mode (the xbone blasts to it just fine), I'm being lazy.
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    11-24-2013 05:52 PM
  11. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Here's a helpful thread as well:

    View topic - XBox One & WMC Setup
    11-25-2013 12:35 PM
  12. coip's Avatar
    Here's a helpful thread as well:

    View topic - XBox One & WMC Setup
    That was an interesting thread to read, but it was also way over my head! I didn't know half of the stuff they were talking about. Here is what I want to do: connect my Windows Media Center-enabled Windows 7 PC, via a VGA-to-HDMI converter cable, to my Xbox One, and then use the Xbox One's TV feature to switch to the Windows 7 PC and watch live OTA TV via Windows Media Center. Ideally, I'd be able to control all of this via Xbox One's OneGuide and Kinect voice controls, but even if I could just use the basic commands "Xbox, watch TV", that would be cool. So, can I do that? From your previous post it seems that because Xbox One doesn't have an IR blaster that I can't do the former, but can do the latter. Right? I only ask instead of testing it myself because I'd have to go buy the VGA-to-HDMI converter.
    11-25-2013 06:25 PM
  13. MobileVortex's Avatar
    You will not get sound with a VGA-HDMI adapter.
    11-25-2013 06:31 PM
  14. Polychrome's Avatar
    I haven't had time to fully mess with it, but quick and dirty just plugging my 360 into the Xbone has worked just fine. Under devices you can even choose Xbox as your cable box.
    Well shucks. Decisions on what to plug into that port are getting harder and harder.

    The device arrives today. What to do what to do what to do what to do.......

    I'm starting to think Microsoft should make a USB-powered splitter (gets its extra power boost from USB and also allows some control over it) that lets you select inputs over the Kinect. XD
    11-25-2013 06:58 PM
  15. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Okay so I now have my HTPC hooked up directly and it's working just fine. The IR blaster is fine, I confused myself when it wasn't working with my older media center remote that has been in a box for years, which I believe is just broken. During device setup under TV settings I chose Microsoft as the brand and then had it automatically send the power command. That put my HTCP to sleep and then woke it up again, so that verified the IR blaster worked. Before I manually typed in Windows Media Center and that may have set it up to use different IR blaster codes. I saved it and then unchecked the box in the other area that said to turn off my HTPC when I say Xbox Turn Off. I then configured the final part of my Harmony 300 universal remote to do Windows Media Center commands for when I want to mess with recordings or do things the speech doesn't cover, or just manually use the remote if there are serious noise issues (I have three kids). So to summarize:


    • By saying Xbox On it turns on my TV and Samsung soundbar which is connected optically to the Xbone. My WMC HTPC is always running, recording TV shows, as before.
    • I can say Watch TV and it then shows the media center interface full screen, behind which is the usual PC desktop that I never use.
    • I can use OneGuide voice commands to fully channel surf as well as say play/pause/stop/ffwd/etc, and that uses IR blasting to pass through the commands.
    • I use my Harmony 300 universal remote configured as a windows media center remote for when I don't want to use voice or need to do DVR specific things.
    • When I say Xbox Turn Off it turns off my TV, soundbar, and the Xbone (standby).


    Mission accomplished.
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    11-25-2013 07:17 PM
  16. oldpueblo's Avatar
    That was an interesting thread to read, but it was also way over my head! I didn't know half of the stuff they were talking about. Here is what I want to do: connect my Windows Media Center-enabled Windows 7 PC, via a VGA-to-HDMI converter cable, to my Xbox One, and then use the Xbox One's TV feature to switch to the Windows 7 PC and watch live OTA TV via Windows Media Center. Ideally, I'd be able to control all of this via Xbox One's OneGuide and Kinect voice controls, but even if I could just use the basic commands "Xbox, watch TV", that would be cool. So, can I do that? From your previous post it seems that because Xbox One doesn't have an IR blaster that I can't do the former, but can do the latter. Right? I only ask instead of testing it myself because I'd have to go buy the VGA-to-HDMI converter.
    I meant to reply to this earlier, sorry. So if you don't have an IR blaster then basically all you get (which is still handy) is the ability to say "Watch TV" which will be just like switching TV inputs. All it will do is switch you to the pass-through TV and the only voice commands available to you are Xbone related only. The OneGuide will do nothing because any command you give it will go nowhere since you won't be using an IR blaster to send the commands on to the HTPC. You will have to continue using all the same control methods you used before. Mouse or keyboard or remote, etc.

    However, you WILL be able to receive your Xbone alerts over the TV feed, you can still snap stuff to the side, you can still verbally switch to something else then switch back, so there is still a benefit if you want to be able to do those types of things. You will just not be able to voice control your TV at all (including auto-on and off) until you get an IR blaster.

    Also since no audio will be coming through HDMI because you're talking about adapters, then you'll need speakers hooked up to your PC to provide that audio. I don't think the Xbone will care about that or give an error that audio is missing, but I can't honestly tell you that an HDMI adapter thing won't cause trouble with the Xbone. Good luck.
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    11-26-2013 01:08 AM
  17. coip's Avatar
    I meant to reply to this earlier, sorry. So if you don't have an IR blaster then basically all you get (which is still handy) is the ability to say "Watch TV" which will be just like switching TV inputs. All it will do is switch you to the pass-through TV and the only voice commands available to you are Xbone related only. The OneGuide will do nothing because any command you give it will go nowhere since you won't be using an IR blaster to send the commands on to the HTPC. You will have to continue using all the same control methods you used before. Mouse or keyboard or remote, etc.

    However, you WILL be able to receive your Xbone alerts over the TV feed, you can still snap stuff to the side, you can still verbally switch to something else then switch back, so there is still a benefit if you want to be able to do those types of things. You will just not be able to voice control your TV at all (including auto-on and off) until you get an IR blaster.

    Also since no audio will be coming through HDMI because you're talking about adapters, then you'll need speakers hooked up to your PC to provide that audio. I don't think the Xbone will care about that or give an error that audio is missing, but I can't honestly tell you that an HDMI adapter thing won't cause trouble with the Xbone. Good luck.
    Thank you so much for the write-up. This sounds really promising, if not still a tad over my head. So, it seems I need to buy an IR blaster and a Harmony 300 universal remote to do Windows Media Center commands that the voice commands of Xbox One don't cover. Sorry to nag you again, but could you recommend an IR blaster (I want to make sure I can do what you're doing)? I have never really heard of an IR blaster before but I'll Bing it, see what they are, how they're used, and how they connect to Xbox One. I

    Anyway, I'm very glad you provided us with all this information. I'm excited about this possibility of utilizing Xbox One's TV integration features using OTA free TV signals and WMC! Hooray! I will buy a VGA to HDMI converter for the video; and the audio I already have external speakers hooked up directly to my HTPC.
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    11-26-2013 02:12 AM
  18. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Ehh, just get an app like Unified Remote, use the Xbox One to snap it, then control it with your smartphone. I personally watch everything on VLC (I don't do TV itself much), and the app has a VLC player remote, as well as a WMC one, I think.
    11-26-2013 08:59 AM
  19. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Thank you so much for the write-up. This sounds really promising, if not still a tad over my head. So, it seems I need to buy an IR blaster and a Harmony 300 universal remote to do Windows Media Center commands that the voice commands of Xbox One don't cover. Sorry to nag you again, but could you recommend an IR blaster (I want to make sure I can do what you're doing)? I have never really heard of an IR blaster before but I'll Bing it, see what they are, how they're used, and how they connect to Xbox One. I

    Anyway, I'm very glad you provided us with all this information. I'm excited about this possibility of utilizing Xbox One's TV integration features using OTA free TV signals and WMC! Hooray! I will buy a VGA to HDMI converter for the video; and the audio I already have external speakers hooked up directly to my HTPC.
    It's entirely possible that the Xbone will just not work with the converter, you might want to see if anyone else has done it or keep your receipt to return it if necessary.
    11-26-2013 10:39 AM
  20. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Also I forgot to add you don't specifically need a harmony 300, that's just all I had to replace my broken windows media center remote. This is an example of one:

    Amazon.com: Genuine Microsoft RC1534034/00, OVU400307/00 Remote Control Bundle By DELL, For Microsoft Windows 7, Vista, And Media Center Edition, Compatible Dell Part Number: KF659: Electronics
    11-26-2013 03:15 PM
  21. coip's Avatar
    Also I forgot to add you don't specifically need a harmony 300, that's just all I had to replace my broken windows media center remote. This is an example of one:

    Amazon.com: Genuine Microsoft RC1534034/00, OVU400307/00 Remote Control Bundle By DELL, For Microsoft Windows 7, Vista, And Media Center Edition, Compatible Dell Part Number: KF659: Electronics
    Thanks. Not to nag you again, but can you recommend an IR blaster? I just don't know anything about this stuff so I want to make sure I at least get the right products before I try to set it up.
    11-26-2013 10:14 PM
  22. coip's Avatar
    It's entirely possible that the Xbone will just not work with the converter, you might want to see if anyone else has done it or keep your receipt to return it if necessary.
    I've done a little research online and it seems that there is no such thing as a VGA-to-HDMI converter cable. VGA is an analog signal and HDMI is digital, and there is no cable itself that can convert that, it seems. They VGA-to-HDMI converters out there are for advanced users who are working with PCs with some special graphics cards, it seems. If anyone knows better, though, do correct me!

    This is disappointing. Microsoft should build into Xbox One a Windows Media Center-esque capability where I can use a cable-to-USB TV tuner and plug it directly into the Xbox One's USB ports and watch OTA televisioin broadcasts that way, utilizing the OneGuide. Come on Microsoft! That's it, I'm tweeting Major Nelson about it.
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    11-29-2013 08:56 PM
  23. dirtyvu's Avatar
    here's Mediasonic's HomeWorX HW-150PVR working with Xbox One voice commands and OneGuide. It does have a built-in PVR (must supply own storage).

    12-06-2013 11:06 PM
  24. coip's Avatar
    here's Mediasonic's HomeWorX HW-150PVR working with Xbox One voice commands and OneGuide. It does have a built-in PVR (must supply own storage).
    Okay, this looks promising. So this guy purchased some device called a HomeWorX HW-150PVR, plugged in his OTA digital antenna cable into the box, then used HDMI to connect the box to the Xbox One, and then he was able to use the OneGuide to watch OTA TV on his Xbox using Kinect commands (or the controller)?! I want to do this. It looks like I can get one of those boxes for $40 to $50, but there are a few different models so I'm confused. Can you provide a couple of links to the correct products on Amazon so that I purchase the right one? Is there anything else I need to know?

    Also, what's a PVR? Personal video recorder, I presume, but what's it used for? It's like a DVR (so I can record shows)? But you have to provide your own storage--so you'd just, what, plug a USB external storage drive into the box?
    12-09-2013 04:16 PM
  25. Rhody#WP's Avatar
    Okay, this looks promising. So this guy purchased some device called a HomeWorX HW-150PVR, plugged in his OTA digital antenna cable into the box, then used HDMI to connect the box to the Xbox One, and then he was able to use the OneGuide to watch OTA TV on his Xbox using Kinect commands (or the controller)?! I want to do this. It looks like I can get one of those boxes for $40 to $50, but there are a few different models so I'm confused. Can you provide a couple of links to the correct products on Amazon so that I purchase the right one? Is there anything else I need to know?

    Also, what's a PVR? Personal video recorder, I presume, but what's it used for? It's like a DVR (so I can record shows)? But you have to provide your own storage--so you'd just, what, plug a USB external storage drive into the box?
    I might be wrong about this, but I don't think that box has a continuous guide that allows you to record a series by name; you have to tell it what channel to record and the start and end times.
    12-09-2013 07:11 PM
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