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  1. sinime's Avatar
    I can't help but think it's a software issue and not hardware.
    10-31-2013 10:56 AM
  2. berty6294's Avatar
    Look PS4 is going to win out the gate because all the PS4 can do is just throw raw horsepower at the game. You literally get what you got on launch. With the Xbox One launching with such a subtle difference in GFX just wait until the devs start doing what they should have done at launch and take advantage of the eSRAM and cloud computing. The PS4 processing power is what it is up front, the Xbox has a lot behind it, and once these devs take advantage of it, that minor performance gap is going to get small very fast and without a doubt the Xbox will come out on top. I promise, I promise! Ban me from the site if that doesn't happen!
    10-31-2013 10:58 AM
  3. MFmonster's Avatar
    720 upscaled to 1080p matters very little to me personally. If the game is broken and plays horribly online, I would be upset. If you remember from the last launch almost all launch titles that were multiplatform looked mediocre and not much better than the last gen's.

    I don't have a dog in this fight, Sony vs. MS, but I may cancel my ps4 pre-order with the faq sheet put out yesterday. There are several things they left out until two weeks before launch is bothersome, and the fact I cannot play mp3/CD's on it is nonsense.
    10-31-2013 11:24 AM
  4. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    Look PS4 is going to win out the gate because all the PS4 can do is just throw raw horsepower at the game. You literally get what you got on launch. With the Xbox One launching with such a subtle difference in GFX just wait until the devs start doing what they should have done at launch and take advantage of the eSRAM and cloud computing. The PS4 processing power is what it is up front, the Xbox has a lot behind it, and once these devs take advantage of it, that minor performance gap is going to get small very fast and without a doubt the Xbox will come out on top. I promise, I promise! Ban me from the site if that doesn't happen!
    I definitely will! :P
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    10-31-2013 12:01 PM
  5. berty6294's Avatar
    I definitely will! :P
    Ambassadors have banning hammers?? D:
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    10-31-2013 12:04 PM
  6. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    Ambassadors have banning hammers?? D:
    Maybe
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    10-31-2013 12:04 PM
  7. Bee Mon's Avatar
    Maybe
    You've been playing "Ban the Post Above You Game" too much! :P
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    10-31-2013 12:20 PM
  8. Giddora's Avatar
    The BF4-Demo (Side by side comparison) clearly showed that resolution is not as important... The PS4 has really terrible colors and nothing I have seen yet seems good... And it cant play MP3's, can't use DLNA, can't be used for any kind of media-streaming... My choice is quite clear.
    10-31-2013 12:49 PM
  9. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    You act as if $100 is alot of money. I've said this before, I spend more than that on booze and women in a week.

    Regarding 720 vs. 1080: Why are you all blaming MSFT? Its the companies that create the games that made such decisions. Hell, at the end of the day it may not make a noticable difference.
    1. Grats on your spending habits and financial situation, as if they apply to the whole world.
    2. It's Microsoft's fault is the reason it either bad tools or insufficient hardware.
    10-31-2013 01:12 PM
  10. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    ...cancel my ps4 pre-order with the faq sheet put out yesterday. There are several things they left out until two weeks before launch is bothersome, and the fact I cannot play mp3/CD's on it is nonsense.
    This. I'm surprised there isn't more talk of this.
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    10-31-2013 01:18 PM
  11. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    This. I'm surprised there isn't more talk of this.
    Yep, you know if Microsoft announced the lack of these features there would be a veritable sh*tstorm of monolithic proportions as the fedora neckbeard anime bottom dwelling trolltards would slam every message board from here to Sri Lanka with proclamations about how MS raped their childhood and stole their limited edition Notch fedora.
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    10-31-2013 01:24 PM
  12. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    This. I'm surprised there isn't more talk of this.
    I will just get a USB with all my music and just plug and play which I do with my PS3 now as well as copy the music files over.

    So it not an issue for me which I'm getting the PS4, maybe an issue for others I don't know never heard anyone put a CD in a PS3 before :P

    I think the more important issue is why they didn't add bluray and DVD support from day one without the day one update?
    10-31-2013 01:34 PM
  13. gsquared's Avatar
    1. Grats on your spending habits and financial situation, as if they apply to the whole world.
    2. It's Microsoft's fault is the reason it either bad tools or insufficient hardware.
    Heh. Single man has to do something to keep himself entertained ;)

    I'm gonna stick to my guns on the resolution thing. Until I see it with my own eyes I'm not sure it will make that much of a difference. Having the lower resolution may even improve gameplay as your not taxing the GPU.
    10-31-2013 01:47 PM
  14. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    I will just get a USB with all my music and just plug and play which I do with my PS3 now as well as copy the music files over.

    So it not an issue for me which I'm getting the PS4, maybe an issue for others I don't know never heard anyone put a CD in a PS3 before :P

    I think the more important issue is why they didn't add bluray and DVD support from day one without the day one update?
    BigPaddy, You might be upset when you find out it doesn't work like that lol.

    The PS4 doesn't support MP3's AT ALL. No plug and play music at all.
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    10-31-2013 01:55 PM
  15. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    BigPaddy, You might be upset when you find out it doesn't work like that lol.

    The PS4 doesn't support MP3's AT ALL. No plug and play music at all.
    Oh so there no support for plug and play for USB as well that a shame!

    Why SONY, WHY?!?!

    I would go for SONY Music Unlimited however no use without an WP app!

    You save me trying to stick a USB for hours trying to make it play MP3's!

    lol
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    10-31-2013 02:11 PM
  16. TechFreak1's Avatar
    I think folks need to step back and remember why they got into gaming in the first place.
    This ^^^^^

    Anyway don't they get up scaled anyway and they may release a patch to make it 1080p.
    Exactly its not the going bring the world to a halt is it?.. most people just think just because a game is being released on a console means said console manufacturer makes all the decisions.. case in point they are blaming MS because infinity have decided to release in 720p as opposed to 1080p... eash how can people be so naive lol.

    Also people are forgetting that MS is shipping a 4k ready hdmi cable with the X1, so on that note if it was MS's decision ofc they would have released it in 1080p. Otherwise why not just stick in 1 hdmi cable...
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    10-31-2013 02:33 PM
  17. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Oh so there no support for plug and play for USB as well that a shame!
    See, it's hard to say with that. They say no USB drives, but they apparently also said that you can update the console with a USB drive, so I'm not exactly sure what to expect on that front.
    10-31-2013 03:37 PM
  18. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Having the lower resolution may even improve gameplay as your not taxing the GPU.
    It depends on the relative view of that. Relative to having 1080p on the One, you have a point. Relative to 1080p on the PS4, you do not, as the whole reason one is 1080p and the other is 720p is because the PS4 will run CoD smoothly at 60 FPS at 1080p, while the Xbox One will not (in the case of BF4, it's 900p vs. 720p).
    10-31-2013 03:39 PM
  19. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    See, it's hard to say with that. They say no USB drives, but they apparently also said that you can update the console with a USB drive, so I'm not exactly sure what to expect on that front.
    When I get the PS4 I will try out all the feature just to see what does or doesn't work since SONY not sure.
    10-31-2013 03:46 PM
  20. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    It depends on the relative view of that. Relative to having 1080p on the One, you have a point. Relative to 1080p on the PS4, you do not, as the whole reason one is 1080p and the other is 720p is because the PS4 will run CoD smoothly at 60 FPS at 1080p, while the Xbox One will not (in the case of BF4, it's 900p vs. 720p).
    I will say that I bet if they had some more time to get to know the system they might have been able to make it 1080p.

    Whereas with the PS4 they got that extra power too pull it off.
    10-31-2013 03:48 PM
  21. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I will say that I bet if they had some more time to get to know the system they might have been able to make it 1080p.

    Whereas with the PS4 they got that extra power too pull it off.
    Microsoft really has to address this. The whole "it look great upscaled" garbage isn't fooling anyone with a brain. If it's unfamiliarity with new tools, and the long-term optimization will fix the issue, fine. If they did a 360 port, and there was a related restriction there (since the 360 isn't a 1080p machine), fine, since we'll see that probably stop next year. If it's related to the multitasking and usage of multiple operating systems, I guess I'll be OK with that. If it's simply that the hardware is underpowered, and we're going to be asked to live in a primarily-720p generation with the One, that's not OK. They can't play the game of secrecy with this stuff, given the other P.R. disasters they have endured.
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    10-31-2013 04:48 PM
  22. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    If it's simply that the hardware is underpowered, and we're going to be asked to live in a primarily-720p generation with the One, that's not OK. They can't play the game of secrecy with this stuff, given the other P.R. disasters they have endured.
    So what your saying that is 1080p is now a standard that the Xbox One HAS TO SUPPORT OR ELSE?

    I absolutely HATE people that think the way you do. There's a screw loose somewhere. If you can't survive without 720p, then by all means it might work out for us all. That will eliminate all the people who complain.
    10-31-2013 04:53 PM
  23. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Having the lower resolution may even improve gameplay as your not taxing the GPU.
    This is the WORSE excuse on a brand new $500 unreleased console. IF Microsoft's Xbox One GPU gets taxed (AT ALL) on a release 1080p game, this system will be a JOKE in 3-4 months, Remember the Red Ring of death ? Then Microsoft said the system supports 4K, if it can't handle 1080p.....

    Sure, Most people will not even notice the 720p vs. 1080p unless they are watching a 50" tv from 3 feet away but, the fact of the matter is not that. The fact is this is the most expensive of the next gen consoles that is not even released yet, You should not only want 1080p, YOU SHOULD EXPECT IT.

    This is something that you should EXPECT and this is why most people are pretty upset about it..... after all, I am paying $531 for a console (+tax) and I am not getting everything I should be getting for my money.

    Yes, it's about the games and the Entertainment of it but, crap, if I am getting a new game, I expect it to look the best it can...Esp on a BRAND new next gen console..

    In 6 months maybe no one will care but, if 3-4 months from now all the new titles come out in only 720p and PS4 gets them in 1080p. Everyone would call it a failure, from a reviewers standpoint.
    10-31-2013 05:00 PM
  24. paulxxwall's Avatar
    So what your saying that is 1080p is now a standard that the Xbox One HAS TO SUPPORT OR ELSE?

    I absolutely HATE people that think the way you do. There's a screw loose somewhere. If you can't survive without 720p, then by all means it might work out for us all. That will eliminate all the people who complain.
    my deal was I've been playing 1080p games for about 4 years now.. Who doesn't have a 1080p
    10-31-2013 05:53 PM
  25. Coreldan's Avatar
    my deal was I've been playing 1080p games for about 4 years now.. Who doesn't have a 1080p
    I have a 1080p Computer screen, but only one person/family from my "closest people" actually have a full HD TV. Most have 720p TVs. Naturally that's no argument towards the actual problem, but at least around here 1080p TVs are definitely not in every house yet, they're still too expensive for most people who wouldn't even see the difference between the two :P
    10-31-2013 05:57 PM
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