1. tekhna's Avatar
    02-27-2014 01:50 PM
  2. Nokia Boy's Avatar
    Also NSA Might collect Fingerprints from iPhone 5S Touch ID?
    02-27-2014 02:04 PM
  3. Coreldan's Avatar
    I'm sure NSA will also tap into my tablet's, laptop's & PC' and phone's cameras and microphones if they feel the need to. It's not like this is about the Kinect.
    Vallos likes this.
    02-27-2014 02:28 PM
  4. Reflexx's Avatar
    Good thing cell phones dont have microphones and cameras or we'd all be in trouble!
    tgp and OsamaAdam98 like this.
    02-27-2014 02:29 PM
  5. radmanvr's Avatar
    I dont care that the NSA knows I tell my wife I love her or that I am heading to my parents for dinner. I think people who are really upset about this actually have something to hide like the missile in their garage or the escort they will encounter this weekend on their "Business" trip.
    02-27-2014 02:32 PM
  6. tekhna's Avatar
    I dont care that the NSA knows I tell my wife I love her or that I am heading to my parents for dinner. I think people who are really upset about this actually have something to hide like the missile in their garage or the escort they will encounter this weekend on their "Business" trip.
    False premise.

    https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Pr...ven-if/127461/
    https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-s...something-fear
    Why 'I Have Nothing to Hide' Is the Wrong Way to Think About Surveillance | Wired Opinion | Wired.com
    Is There a Good Response to the “Nothing to Hide” Argument? - Concurring Opinions
    Why 'Nothing to Hide' misrepresents online privacy - TechRepublic
    3 Reasons the ‘Nothing to Hide’ Crowd Should Be Worried About Government Surveillance - Reason.com
    KoreyTM likes this.
    02-27-2014 02:45 PM
  7. Blacklac's Avatar
    I dont care that the NSA knows I tell my wife I love her or that I am heading to my parents for dinner. I think people who are really upset about this actually have something to hide like the missile in their garage or the escort they will encounter this weekend on their "Business" trip.
    What about your government makes you trust them more than others? Just look at all the shenanigans from Governments across the world, just this past year or two.

    I find it fairly disturbing that people blindly trust Government, no matter what "party" is in power. All over the world. Especially based on History of the world.

    Regardless, we are all spy'd on more than we realize, no doubt. Lol. Technology is too convenient to care for most.
    02-27-2014 02:46 PM
  8. Reflexx's Avatar
    I know that many tech companies are making an effort to encrypt data and set limits on their technology sp that they wouldn't be able to get the personal info even if they wanted to.

    Tech companies don't like doing this for the government. Sometimes they are forced to give the govt access. So now they are just limiting what they can collect so that I'd the govt asks they can say, "this really generic info is all I can give you because we don't collect other info."
    02-27-2014 03:01 PM
  9. Guytronic's Avatar


    It won't be long now.
    Soon we will have property tags implanted.
    02-27-2014 03:18 PM
  10. tgp's Avatar
    I know that many tech companies are making an effort to encrypt data and set limits on their technology sp that they wouldn't be able to get the personal info even if they wanted to.
    I believe whatever they do is a smokescreen to attempt to give their customers peace of mind. Kind of like the TSA.
    02-27-2014 03:36 PM
  11. MobileVortex's Avatar
    I dont care that the NSA knows I tell my wife I love her or that I am heading to my parents for dinner. I think people who are really upset about this actually have something to hide like the missile in their garage or the escort they will encounter this weekend on their "Business" trip.
    Responses like this scare me.
    02-27-2014 03:45 PM
  12. radmanvr's Avatar
    Oh I dont trust the government. I just find it strange that people are outburst about the NSA spying. I am a Texas and par of the deal is that Texas is allowed to withdraw from the union if it wants to.
    02-27-2014 03:53 PM
  13. tgp's Avatar
    Responses like this scare me.
    And I agree with radmanvr. I don't care either. You can do as much as you want for privacy, but any for the most part any assurance it gives you is imagined. You're connected; your information is available. The extra steps you go to for increased security are still no obstacle to the powers that be. A cement block is harder to pick up than a brick, but it's still relatively easy to carry.
    02-27-2014 04:00 PM
  14. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I am a Texas.
    I don't believe you. You are not Texas
    arnieman and xboxonthego3 like this.
    02-27-2014 04:04 PM
  15. tekhna's Avatar
    And I agree with radmanvr. I don't care either. You can do as much as you want for privacy, but any for the most part any assurance it gives you is imagined. You're connected; your information is available. The extra steps you go to for increased security are still no obstacle to the powers that be. A cement block is harder to pick up than a brick, but it's still relatively easy to carry.
    You don't mind sending me photos of your wife naked then, right? And your credit card bills, phone records, browsing history, oh, and if you don't mind, I'll use the Kinect to watch your kids at all times in your own home.
    02-27-2014 04:12 PM
  16. Reflexx's Avatar
    You don't mind sending me photos of your wife naked then, right? And your credit card bills, phone records, browsing history, oh, and if you don't mind, I'll use the Kinect to watch your kids at all times in your own home.
    That was quite a leap you attempted there.
    02-27-2014 04:14 PM
  17. tekhna's Avatar
    That was quite a leap you attempted there.
    No it's not. All of those things have happened. When you're saying "I have nothing to hide" you're saying that you are comfortable with those things.
    Did you read the originally posted material? The British were collecting massive amounts of private, intimate (sexual) video chats. It's pretty clear phone and credit card companies have been compromised, and The Guardian is reporting that this same program looked into compromising the Kinect. Bets on when it comes out that they did?
    02-27-2014 04:20 PM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    You don't mind sending me photos of your wife naked then, right? And your credit card bills, phone records, browsing history, oh, and if you don't mind, I'll use the Kinect to watch your kids at all times in your own home.
    You're welcome to whatever you can find.
    02-27-2014 04:22 PM
  19. MobileVortex's Avatar
    I too am aware that expecting privacy online is unreasonable. Once you stop caring about it tho, that opens the doors for people/companies/governments/services to start taking and giving and sharing more and more. This is a real issue right now, and its going to get worse before it get's better.
    02-27-2014 04:31 PM
  20. Reflexx's Avatar
    No it's not. All of those things have happened. When you're saying "I have nothing to hide" you're saying that you are comfortable with those things.
    Did you read the originally posted material? The British were collecting massive amounts of private, intimate (sexual) video chats. It's pretty clear phone and credit card companies have been compromised, and The Guardian is reporting that this same program looked into compromising the Kinect. Bets on when it comes out that they did?

    You're making the leap of someone saying they have nothing to hide from the government (which will get the data by force anyway) vs giving that data to some person on the internet.

    It's not close to the same.

    I have privacy concerns, but I know that the government will collect data. I can live my life knowing this, even if I disagree with it.

    Do you really believe that this is the same as willingly giving your data do some dude on the internet?
    tgp likes this.
    02-27-2014 05:10 PM
  21. Stiv X's Avatar
    I bought a Xbox One Kinect TV Mount Clip with Camera cover, so that helps.Xbox One Kinect Clip Mount TV Sensor 2 0 Plus Privacy Cover Shield | eBay
    02-28-2014 10:40 AM
  22. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    I dont care that the NSA knows I tell my wife I love her or that I am heading to my parents for dinner. I think people who are really upset about this actually have something to hide like the missile in their garage or the escort they will encounter this weekend on their "Business" trip.
    I think it goes far beyond whether or not you have something to hide. Its the slippery slope of it all. And sure, we do give up some measure of privacy by living in this digital age. I also think its not unreasonable for some to have expectations on lines that need not be crossed.
    02-28-2014 10:55 AM
  23. TheKinkajou's Avatar
    Microsoft is not happy with spying either: Microsoft 'Concerned' Over Kinect Spying Claims - IGN
    02-28-2014 05:02 PM
  24. TeknoBlast's Avatar
    Oh let them spy on me all they want. All they going to see is me watching Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, and playing on my Xbox. Lets see how exciting this is for them and I hope it helps for national security.
    02-28-2014 05:13 PM
  25. HeyCori's Avatar
    Story has nothing to do with Kinect.
    palandri likes this.
    02-28-2014 05:14 PM

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