10-27-2014 10:29 AM
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  1. jordanzhninja's Avatar
    I've used a 360 before for over 80 days of gametime (mainly halo), and I never needed to use Kinect because it seemed like a gimmick. However the Kinect on Xbox One looks useful and Cortana might be coming to it one day. Obviously as a Halo fan I need to get the Xbox One at some point to play Halo 5 in glorious 1080p at 60fps on DirectX 12, but should I get it with or without Kinect?
    05-17-2014 08:30 AM
  2. paulxxwall's Avatar
    I was one of the biggest crabs against the Kinect and man did I crab. But now I'm glad I got it and won't buy another with out it! It may not work for every game but voice commands are sweet! Buy it with the kinect !
    05-17-2014 09:28 AM
  3. Coreldan's Avatar
    I will also replace my Kinect without thinking about it twice should it ever break or something. I wouldn't imagine being without it anymore. I was neutral/positive towards it, cos I liked the idea of the voice commands and other possibilities and I was positively surprised. Especially now as a family man the wide angle 1080p Skype in the living room is great, as Skype is like the only software my parents know how to use lol :D

    I would recommend getting the Kinect-bundle if 1) the room you plan to put the X1 in is suitable for Kinect 2) you arn't on a budget where that 100usd makes or breaks anything.

    It's no miracle machine, but most of the people who bash the Kinect never even tried it, many of those who hated the idea and gave it a shot seemed to be at least now neutral/slightly positive at the very least towards the Kinect.
    05-17-2014 10:55 AM
  4. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I don't think it's worth $100, unless you want the Kinect-based games. Nothing's shown Halo 5 as using the Kinect, nor do I think it would fit into the game unless it was forced into it. I've found my Kinect useful for navigation at times, but I don't think I've gotten $100 of value from it, and there aren't any Kincet-based games on the horizon worth getting, from what I've seen. I don't think it's that tough to get around the console with the controller, and I've admittedly grown weary of trying to talk to the Kinect anymore.
    05-17-2014 12:41 PM
  5. Coreldan's Avatar
    I don't think it's worth $100, unless you want the Kinect-based games. Nothing's shown Halo 5 as using the Kinect, nor do I think it would fit into the game unless it was forced into it. I've found my Kinect useful for navigation at times, but I don't think I've gotten $100 of value from it, and there aren't any Kincet-based games on the horizon worth getting, from what I've seen. I don't think it's that tough to get around the console with the controller, and I've admittedly grown weary of trying to talk to the Kinect anymore.
    It's a shame that you havn't apparently gotten enough accuracy out of the voice commands. They're not 100% for me either, typically failing due to other background noise if anything, but still accurate enough easily to be more convenient than using the controller for a lot of tasks. I guess acoustics of the room might have something to do with it too and Kinect probably recognizes certain registers better than others.
    05-17-2014 02:25 PM
  6. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    That last part is probably the reason. It's never loud, and it'll work just fine for my cousin as it fails me. It's almost certainly due to my voice, though that's probably the worst scenario of them all. It's not Microsoft's fault if it's loud, but if they made something that doesn't work for a chunk of customers just because of their voice, then they've failed the consumer pretty badly.
    05-17-2014 11:10 PM
  7. paulxxwall's Avatar
    That last part is probably the reason. It's never loud, and it'll work just fine for my cousin as it fails me. It's almost certainly due to my voice, though that's probably the worst scenario of them all. It's not Microsoft's fault if it's loud, but if they made something that doesn't work for a chunk of customers just because of their voice, then they've failed the consumer pretty badly.
    I'm going to opt in the voice recognition set up or what ever that's new with this update so maybe it'll get better? And the fact that it works for party chat is actually ok. So were all mature enough know that it really doesn't work for everything but it does work good for alot so maybe we should give it a shot !...whats to lose....thats what my girl keeps telling me!
    05-18-2014 07:53 AM
  8. Coreldan's Avatar
    I'm going to opt in the voice recognition set up or what ever that's new with this update so maybe it'll get better? And the fact that it works for party chat is actually ok. So were all mature enough know that it really doesn't work for everything but it does work good for alot so maybe we should give it a shot !...whats to lose....thats what my girl keeps telling me!
    Well, 100usd is to lose :D But like I said, if you arnt on a super tight budget, I think it's worth it. Worth it by how much probably depends how much you use it and if there are any interesting Kinect only titles for you. Just Dance is great with the lady :D
    05-18-2014 08:47 AM
  9. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I'm going to opt in the voice recognition set up or what ever that's new with this update so maybe it'll get better?
    I'm way too paranoid and unwilling to trust Microsoft to do that. It's the same reason I'll never activate Cortana.
    05-18-2014 12:39 PM
  10. Coreldan's Avatar
    I'm way too paranoid and unwilling to trust Microsoft to do that. It's the same reason I'll never activate Cortana.
    It's not that I don't trust MS and I would activate Cortana most definitely (if we had it here anyways), but I'm still uneasy activating that opt in thing. It's probably not MS I don't trust in the chain, but I guess it's a bit grey area for me when it comes to comfortability. On Windows 8 I have most of the opt in things activated to improve, but when we're talking about my actual voice etc sent around the internet without me exactly knowing what and when, meh :P
    05-18-2014 01:15 PM
  11. paulxxwall's Avatar
    I'm way too paranoid and unwilling to trust Microsoft to do that. It's the same reason I'll never activate Cortana.
    if any one should be paranoid..... It should be me! My Xbox know 3 people .....me my dog and my bong! And its a sweet one too! So yeah I don't give a s#!t about what my Kinect is seeing . Hoping it gets better actually! So don't be paranoid ...... I'm not!
    05-18-2014 01:23 PM
  12. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I'll always be paranoid. I don't trust corporations with my information, and minimize what I let them know. The only information Facebook has about me is my name and birthday (at least, that's all I've ever volunteered). My unwillingness to share personal information on the Internet is why I never use Google products. Heck, it's why if Google buys Twitch, I will likely disable/abandon my account--they RUINED YouTube with their excessive ads, and they do way too much customer tracking for my liking.
    05-19-2014 12:12 AM
  13. xconomicron's Avatar
    When you are online, there's always a footprint my friends. Some you may not be aware of. :) Keep that in mind...
    05-19-2014 12:30 AM
  14. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Obviously, but just because my information is somewhere doesn't mean I should put it everywhere. I obviously can't stop everything about me from getting out SOMEHOW, but I'm certainly not going to be a mindless sheep who hands over all of his personal information just to watch an M-Rated game trailer.

    I've already looked into closing my Twitch account now that Google's looking to buy it, because they are the epitome of a business I don't trust.
    05-19-2014 12:49 AM
  15. Zulfigar's Avatar
    I've used a 360 before for over 80 days of gametime (mainly halo), and I never needed to use Kinect because it seemed like a gimmick. However the Kinect on Xbox One looks useful and Cortana might be coming to it one day. Obviously as a Halo fan I need to get the Xbox One at some point to play Halo 5 in glorious 1080p at 60fps on DirectX 12, but should I get it with or without Kinect?
    It depends on how you use it. If you want the Kinect for just games, I wouldn't bother with it too much. However, the Xbox One has a lot of features with the Kinect, from turning it on/off, signing in, to even doing a Bing search for Godzilla (awesome movie by the way). There's just a lot of Xbox features that use the Kinect and your voice, which is huge.

    So, are you using it with games, or everything else?
    05-19-2014 01:02 AM
  16. CitrusMocha's Avatar
    Do you yell at your tv when you play games?


    Yes? Case closed.
    05-19-2014 01:10 AM
  17. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Do you yell at your tv when you play games?


    Yes? Case closed.
    No, but I do yell at it to turn on. ;)
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    05-19-2014 04:54 AM
  18. Rhody#WP's Avatar
    In June, the Smartglass app will get a universal remote feature, and the Xbox One will have voice commands for everything the universal remote feature provides. That means you can use Smartglass or voice commands to do anything you want on your TV devices. But you can only do that if you have the IR blaster in the Kinect. That is a big reason to have Kinect right there.
    05-21-2014 09:58 AM
  19. sinime's Avatar
    I have to say it is worth it... I use the voice commands all the time. Just wish I could convince my wife to start using the receiver all the time... as it is right now, we have the Kinect calibrated for the TV speakers (which is how we primarily listen to TV) and whenever we turn on the receiver for a movie, it doesn't recognize the voice commands as well it does with the receiver off.
    05-28-2014 02:57 PM
  20. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Q: Now with more games being released in 1080p due to developers and MS casting aside the 10% requirement for kinect, what if you have a kinect and buy a game that is specified for 1080p? Will the kinect not work/get disabled? Does the game still run in 1080p and you still have use of the kinect and all its functions? Does the game revert to 900p or other resolution?
    10-21-2014 10:27 AM
  21. ncxcstud's Avatar
    Q: Now with more games being released in 1080p due to developers and MS casting aside the 10% requirement for kinect, what if you have a kinect and buy a game that is specified for 1080p? Will the kinect not work/get disabled? Does the game still run in 1080p and you still have use of the kinect and all its functions? Does the game revert to 900p or other resolution?
    Essentially what happens is that the ability for the Kinect to SEE you is turned off while you are playing those games. Voice commands still work.

    I think destiny is the first game to really use that feature from Microsoft... It doesn't see you, but voice commands still work fine.
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    10-22-2014 06:26 AM
  22. Bobvfr's Avatar
    I have Kinect but have to say I don't use it much, we have the media remote and that does most of our day to day use, I suppose I am just used to picking up a remote, on odd times I will use voice to turn the volume up or down.

    In the UK the basic box is now down to 329 and with connect it is 399 and the Kinect on it's own is 129 so a saving of 59 if bought together.

    I am going to buy another Xbox for our bedroom and as we don't use Kinect the temptation would be to buy for 70 cheaper, use that money to buy a media remote, TV dongle and a game but then the sensible side of me kicks in and I will probably get it with Kinect.

    If for nothing else that I do shift work and if I am in bed trying to sleep and the wife has left the telly on and gone into another room saying "Back in a minute" and half hour later I am still wide awake and getting peed off, having the luxury of being able to say Xbox off is just too tempting.

    Plus you do future proof yourself and potentially save money.



    Bob
    10-22-2014 07:02 AM
  23. TachyonicCargo's Avatar
    Honestly, after almost a year of ownership of my Xbox One, I cannot possibly imagine ownership of my Xbox One without the Kinect.

    Put bluntly, the system was built around the new Kinect. Having the system without the Kinect, is like having only half an Xbox One. And it is sometimes hard to articulate that to people - especially those who equate gaming purely to specs and numbers. The new Kinect is not about just the games, but it is about an overall experience. And the experience just keeps getting better. And you simply cannot get that experience from any other "gadget", piece of tech, or consumer electronics anywhere else on the planet - not even the original Kinect compares. The original Kinect is like a Fisher-Price toy, in comparison to the new Kinect.

    Think about it this way. For those of you who play your games, or watch your movies with a great 5.1 (or higher) surround sound system. How hard is it to go back to just plain stereo being piped out of crummy TV speakers? But the fact is, the vast majority of people who play games and watch movies, live their lives just like that - missing half the point of the experience. And have you ever tried to explain to people like that, in concrete terms exactly what they are missing? Often times, it is like talking to a brick wall. Most people just see the dollars and cents of it all, and that is all they want to see. And do not want to have to spend a dime more than they have to, to get the bare minimum out of the experience. Well owning/not owning the new Kinect is a lot like that. It's only half an Xbox One without out. Pure and simple. And the longer you own it, the more uses you find for it, the more convenient it makes your life, the more you never want to do without it.

    I hope that helps.
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    10-22-2014 07:11 AM
  24. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Very well put.





    Bob
    10-22-2014 07:15 AM
  25. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Put bluntly, the system was built around the new Kinect. Having the system without the Kinect, is like having only half an Xbox One.
    I absolutely disagree. You make it sound like not having the Kinect means that nothing about the console is more than half-complete. I never needed the Kinect while playing Shadow of Mordor. I never need it at all during gaming, though are rare instances where I will use it to snap the Achievements app (something I do with the controller 90% of the time now anyway). You can absolutely survive without the Kinect, and do it well. If you aren't one to multitask and use all of the media apps, and you want the Xbox One solely for gaming (and not Kinect Sports Rivals), then the Kinect is not only optional, but almost a waste. I don't mind that I have the Kinect now (got it before the bundles without it were out there), but I'd absolutely trade the $100 Kinect for 2 more games or a game and a controller, because the more I use my Xbox, and the more they expand navigation without the Kinect, the less I use the Kinect. I went from using it for most of my navigation to using it maybe once or twice in the past week-plus, during which I was almost constantly playing Mordor.

    Simply put, the Kinect has been mostly a flop for gaming, so if you're solely a gamer on the One, and you're not a social media person (Twitter/YouTube/Twitch/Facebook uploader), the Kinect's totally optional, and the furthest things from half of the console.

    Again, I don't use Netflix, or YouTube (except for music videos on my PC), or Hulu, or anything else on my Xbox One. I play games, and that's it. I don't do the whole Game DVR thing, and the only rare instance I use for streaming is to show a game to a friend (and I don't use the Kinect for that). The Kinect, to me, is more like and SSD in a computer. It's nice to have the extra speed (for a SSD, in loading times, for the Kinect, in UI navigation), but I could go back to booting my computer from my HDD, and I wouldn't feel worse for wear (but the SSD was only $25, so I was willing to eat that cost).
    10-22-2014 11:42 PM
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