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  1. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Ugh, the PS4 re-took the monthly crown, besting the Xbox One in January NPD sales. Microsoft was foolish to jack the price back up. They need to win every month, not just a few of them.
    Wrong
    http://www.bidnessetc.com/34819-micr...4-still-ahead/
    02-13-2015 09:26 PM
  2. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Why did you say he was wrong and posted a link saying he's right? #confused
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    02-13-2015 09:39 PM
  3. FearL0rd's Avatar
    02-16-2015 10:51 AM
  4. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Is there any explanation about the differences on show here? Pretty huge difference if you ask me... Looking like the "1000x more power" argument is falling apart...
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    02-18-2015 03:05 AM
  5. rex.reyesiii's Avatar
    Looks like sacrifices were made to make it 1080p for the "other" platform.
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    02-18-2015 05:45 AM
  6. Crasstoe's Avatar
    In other news... The Order eh? That happened...
    02-19-2015 01:50 PM
  7. coip's Avatar
    In other news... The Order eh? That happened...
    Yeah, that was pretty hilarious. For the past 18 months I've had to put up with PS4 fanboys, in response to being presented with the fact that the Xbox One is destroying the PS4 in AAA exclusives, go on an on about how great the Order is going to be. Now it's here and it sucks. I don't get the love for SCEA. In my opinion, their games are mostly overrated and they're development history is completely myopic. They do one thing: they make 3D action/adventure games, which these days are mostly just CG movies with uninspiring gameplay in between cutscenes. In contrast, Microsoft Studios is all over the map, funding games in a smorgasbord of genres. Yet, fanboys online continue to portray it the opposite way, for some weird reason.
    02-19-2015 04:58 PM
  8. bilzkh's Avatar
    Yeah, that was pretty hilarious. For the past 18 months I've had to put up with PS4 fanboys, in response to being presented with the fact that the Xbox One is destroying the PS4 in AAA exclusives, go on an on about how great the Order is going to be. Now it's here and it sucks. I don't get the love for SCEA. In my opinion, their games are mostly overrated and they're development history is completely myopic. They do one thing: they make 3D action/adventure games, which these days are mostly just CG movies with uninspiring gameplay in between cutscenes. In contrast, Microsoft Studios is all over the map, funding games in a smorgasbord of genres. Yet, fanboys online continue to portray it the opposite way, for some weird reason.
    It's amazing, isn't it? Despite all the hype, it was the Xbox One that ended up with the better library of exclusive AAA titles. Not only that, but it even looks like the Xbox One is shaping up to have a good indie development program, it'll need some improvements, but it's getting there. Solid cross-platform titles aside, what reason is there to buy a PS4 over an Xbox One? The PS4 clearly doesn't have a big library of killer games; it doesn't have general multimedia appeal (lacks DLNA, .MKV support, etc); and what it does have (e.g. PlayStation Online and Streaming) can and likely will be replicated by Microsoft in the near future ...

    I do think the PS4 has potential. I've been a loyal PlayStation fan for three generations and I know the likes of Namco, Square Enix, Konami, etc, can rock the world with seriously good titles. Unfortunately, these studios dropped the ball in the PS3 era, and I am not all that confident right now that they'll replicate the PS2-era gold in this generation. For starters, it's been over a year since release and we have yet to see a solid IP from any of them. I can't spend $400 (plus tax) on potential.

    Even with the Xbox One I waited a year to see whether its library of exclusives will stack up and whether Microsoft would expand the TV integration and OneGuide past the U.S (to include Canada), and on both counts, Microsoft succeeded.

    This PS4 hype is utterly toxic IMHO.
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    02-21-2015 03:42 PM
  9. jonnaver's Avatar
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    Detail looks better on the ps4, Xbox looks like they missed some detailing
    02-22-2015 09:27 PM
  10. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Detail looks better on the ps4, Xbox looks like they missed some detailing
    Really I don't see that
    02-22-2015 10:08 PM
  11. coip's Avatar
    Detail looks better on the ps4, Xbox looks like they missed some detailing
    If those pictures are accurate, then, no. There are no shadows on the bridge in the PS4 version, and the PS4 version looks totally washed out (this is a common theme across all PS4 vs. Xbox One screenshot comparisons I've seen).
    02-22-2015 11:29 PM
  12. jonnaver's Avatar
    Really I don't see that
    Look closer. There's pieces of detail missing on the Xbox side that are present in the ps4. Microshaft looks like they're taking the easy way of fooling the eyes by just heightening the contrast and shadow to make it look more detailed when it's actually not. A lot of us were commenting about this at the last FanExpo. I can't stand it when some companies use cheese like that to sucker buyers rather than just make the effort to put in the detail.
    If those pictures are accurate, then, no. There are no shadows on the bridge in the PS4 version, and the PS4 version looks totally washed out (this is a common theme across all PS4 vs. Xbox One screenshot comparisons I've seen).

    It's an old trick, Samsung pulls a similar stunt with the over saturated samoled screens they put on their galaxy phones.
    Looks vibrant when in fact it's artificial. That's what you're seeing that makes you think the other is washed out. Places like furniture stores and Bestbuy pull the same crap, the color heat levels are cranked way in the display settings at the store so people go "wow that's so rich!"
    02-23-2015 08:13 PM
  13. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Look closer. There's pieces of detail missing on the Xbox side that are present in the ps4. Microshaft looks like they're taking the easy way of fooling the eyes by just heightening the contrast and shadow to make it look more detailed when it's actually not. A lot of us were commenting about this at the last FanExpo. I can't stand it when some companies use cheese like that to sucker buyers rather than just make the effort to put in the detail.



    It's an old trick, Samsung pulls a similar stunt with the over saturated samoled screens they put on their galaxy phones.
    Looks vibrant when in fact it's artificial. That's what you're seeing that makes you think the other is washed out. Places like furniture stores and Bestbuy pull the same crap, the color heat levels are cranked way in the display settings at the store so people go "wow that's so rich!"

    Missing real time shadows is very bad for me
    02-23-2015 08:23 PM
  14. Ejay Lozano's Avatar
    No street fighter 5 on Xbox = disappointed 😞
    02-23-2015 08:23 PM
  15. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Im happy with Thombraider
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    02-23-2015 08:45 PM
  16. jonnaver's Avatar
    Missing real time shadows is very bad for me
    Here's what I mean. Detail missing, MS cheesing out with saturating contrast and shadow to BS people into thinking they're getting a better image. I take zero credit for noticing this, I've seen it reported tons of times. The people who are posting these comparison shots know F-all about graphics. (Not you, I mean the ones who are originally sourcing these "comparison" shots). My circles are the ones in yellow

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    02-23-2015 08:51 PM
  17. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Here's what I mean. Detail missing, MS cheesing out with saturating contrast and shadow to BS people into thinking they're getting a better image. I take zero credit for noticing this, I've seen it reported tons of times. The people who are posting these comparison shots know F-all about graphics. (Not you, I mean the ones who are originally sourcing these "comparison" shots). My circles are the ones in yellow

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    If you move The shadow will mode and you will see the highlighted areas...
    02-23-2015 09:10 PM
  18. jonnaver's Avatar
    If you move The shadow will mode and you will see the highlighted areas...
    I don't want to have to move around to see detail.
    02-23-2015 09:48 PM
  19. coip's Avatar
    It's an old trick, Samsung pulls a similar stunt with the over saturated samoled screens they put on their galaxy phones.
    What exactly are you saying, here? That Microsoft usurped everyone's televisions and replaced the screens with special, "over-saturated" ones? Pretty sure they haven't had access to my television.

    Jesting aside, I don't care how it is accomplished, but given the choice between one that is washed out and missing shadows and one that is not, I'd choose the latter--that is, if I cared about graphics at all, which I don't, especially minute details such as these, so I don't even know why I'm having this conversation.
    02-24-2015 09:01 AM
  20. coip's Avatar
    No street fighter 5 on Xbox = disappointed
    Killer Instinct is the best 2D fighting game out there. I'd rather have that then a fighting franchise that peaked two decades ago.
    02-24-2015 09:03 AM
  21. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Killer Instinct is the best 2D fighting game out there. I'd rather have that then a fighting franchise that peaked two decades ago.
    Relax street fighter will come to Xbox one in the future after the Sony/Capcom contract expire.
    02-24-2015 09:07 AM
  22. bilzkh's Avatar
    I can't wait for Scalebound, it has an anime-esque feel to it for some reason.

    02-24-2015 10:50 AM
  23. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Just a thought... Is it time to change the thread title?
    02-24-2015 12:00 PM
  24. jonnaver's Avatar
    What exactly are you saying, here? That Microsoft usurped everyone's televisions and replaced the screens with special, "over-saturated" ones? Pretty sure they haven't had access to my television.

    Jesting aside, I don't care how it is accomplished, but given the choice between one that is washed out and missing shadows and one that is not, I'd choose the latter--that is, if I cared about graphics at all, which I don't, especially minute details such as these, so I don't even know why I'm having this conversation.
    Except it's not washed out. Just like every other smartphone that doesn't oversaturate their display like Samsung does isn't "washed out" or every HDTV that doesn't have the display settings cranked up to unrealistic color representation isn't washed out. But you already said you prefer artificially tweaked appearance to more realistic detail so yes, I agree that's not important to you.
    02-24-2015 12:44 PM
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