12-20-2017 03:20 AM
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  1. sasivarnan's Avatar
    I am planning to buy a gaming console. I am looking to buy either Xbox One S or PS4.
    Xbox One S is really awesome and has various unique features like Backwards compatibility and availability of EA Access.

    BUT

    I found that even for playing Free to Play multiplayer games, we need to have Xbox Gold subscription. Whereas in PS4 Free to Play multiplayer games doesn't need Playstation Plus subscription.

    Coming from the PC gaming background, I am tired of having charges for playing multiplayer games even if we brought the game.

    I can understand that the subscription costs are used for maintaining servers, but getting a subscription for Free to Play games is not fair and it is not Free to Play at all.

    Some free to play games that doesn't require Play Station Plus on PS4 but require Xbox Gold on Xbox.

    Fortnite

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    Paladins


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    There are lot more Free to play games like this. Now I am really confused about which console to choose between PS4 and Xbox One S.

    There is a 2.5 year old request in Xbox User Voice forum to make Free to Play games really free. Kindly cast your votes.
    12-04-2017 12:32 AM
  2. sasivarnan's Avatar
    Share your comments on this Reddit thread too.
    12-04-2017 07:08 AM
  3. jeffchapik's Avatar
    Sometimes you get what you pay for. The stability and reliability of Xbox Live is worth $60/year to me. Plus you can sometimes get deals on 1 year Xbox Live cards on Amazon and elsewhere for $40.

    Since I have a Windows phone and Cortana uses Bing for all my searches, I get enough MS points every year to pay for a year of Live for free. And last month I got 2 $10 gift certificates. If you haven't signed up for the rewards program, you should do so.
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    12-04-2017 10:04 AM
  4. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    I am planning to buy a gaming console. I am looking to buy either Xbox One S or PS4..
    At this stage I would say better get a PS4. It has more games. Since you're also on PC you'll be able to play almost all XB games on PC. The PS4 have way more exclusives that are not available on PC.
    PS4 has more free to play games that don't require a subscription.

    The PS4 has way more upcoming games that are not focused on multiplayer so no need to pay to play the game. Most major upcoming XB1 console "exclusive" are more into the multiplayer mode, so you'll need to pay more to pay them. And let's not forget MS's strategy with games as a service, where they'll keep selling stuff (via microtransactions/loot box) once you paid the ($60-$90) entry fee. They have done that with most recent big console "exclusive".
    12-04-2017 01:48 PM
  5. DOGC_Kyle's Avatar
    Since I have a Windows phone and Cortana uses Bing for all my searches, I get enough MS points every year to pay for a year of Live for free. And last month I got 2 $10 gift certificates. If you haven't signed up for the rewards program, you should do so.
    This. You get points every single time you ask/search with Cortana (on any device, IIRC even saying "Hey Cortana play [some game]" on Xbox will earn you points), or click something in Cortana Home. It adds up really quickly, you can easily get Gold for free.
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    12-04-2017 01:57 PM
  6. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    Since I have a Windows phone and Cortana uses Bing for all my searches, I get enough MS points every year to pay for a year of Live for free. And last month I got 2 $10 gift certificates. If you haven't signed up for the rewards program, you should do so.
    Not everyone has a windows phone or uses bing or constantly uses every "MS" products there is.
    The guy has a iPhone 7 and he probably uses google like most people in the western world.
    12-04-2017 05:40 PM
  7. sasivarnan's Avatar
    Not everyone has a windows phone or uses bing or constantly uses every "MS" products there is.
    The guy has a iPhone 7 and he probably uses google like most people in the western world.
    I am actually from India and I recently switched to iPhone.
    Previously I was using Microsoft Lumia 640 XL and Lumia 630.

    I recently started to get rid of most of the Google Services including Google Search and started using Bing instead. Except Google Maps, I got rid of all other services.

    Sadly Bing Rewards is not available in India.
    12-05-2017 12:09 AM
  8. sasivarnan's Avatar
    At this stage I would say better get a PS4. It has more games. Since you're also on PC you'll be able to play almost all XB games on PC. The PS4 have way more exclusives that are not available on PC.
    PS4 has more free to play games that don't require a subscription.

    The PS4 has way more upcoming games that are not focused on multiplayer so no need to pay to play the game. Most major upcoming XB1 console "exclusive" are more into the multiplayer mode, so you'll need to pay more to pay them. And let's not forget MS's strategy with games as a service, where they'll keep selling stuff (via microtransactions/loot box) once you paid the ($60-$90) entry fee. They have done that with most recent big console "exclusive".
    As I am from India, Bing Rewards is not there in our country.

    None of my friends owns a console. And I am thinking to invest in EA Access which I feel is a great and cheep way of gaming.

    So mostly I won't be requiring a Xbox Gold subscription.

    But I do wanted to try some Free to Play Games without any subscription which is available in PS4.
    But PS4 lacks EA Access.

    These things brought me a lot of confusion now.
    12-05-2017 12:17 AM
  9. sasivarnan's Avatar
    Also in India, the gaming consoles are costlier than other countries.

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    The Microsoft Xbox One S 1 TB with Assassin's Creed Origins, Rainbow Six Siege Bundle costs around 465 USD.
    12-05-2017 12:22 AM
  10. techiez's Avatar
    Go for PS4, MS products suck outside US, they'll always be lagging behind or never get full feature set, as others mentioned getting xbox gold is easy with bing rewards but it will be a pretty costly affair for you in India
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    12-05-2017 10:06 AM
  11. jeffchapik's Avatar
    Not everyone has a windows phone or uses bing or constantly uses every "MS" products there is.
    The guy has a iPhone 7 and he probably uses google like most people in the western world.

    Well, this is a Microsoft forum, so it was a pretty safe bet.
    12-05-2017 02:44 PM
  12. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    I don't think EA access is that much of a big deal tbh. Since you're also on PC there is Origin access. I believe it offers way more games at the same price.

    Also, you could buy the console from outside India. Did you trying looking at the price for shipping? I know the PS4 is not region lock so you can play PS4 games on an american/European console. I'm not too sure about XB1, I think it's the same...
    12-05-2017 02:49 PM
  13. sasivarnan's Avatar
    I don't think EA access is that much of a big deal tbh. Since you're also on PC there is Origin access. I believe it offers way more games at the same price.
    I actually own a 6-year-old laptop Lenovo Z570 which has Nvidia GeForce GT 540M graphics card.

    The machine is working fine but it is not performing well to a lot of new games and the machine is not compatible with Windows 10. I am stuck with Windows 7.

    Hence I was looking for a console for playing recent games with decent graphics as a dedicated Gaming Machine. So getting an Xbox and EA Access subscription will be a better choice for me.

    Also, you could buy the console from outside India. Did you try looking at the price for shipping? I know the PS4 is not region lock so you can play PS4 games on an american/European console. I'm not too sure about XB1, I think it's the same...
    I tried to buy a console during the Black Friday sales. None of the sellers on Amazon are shipping to India.

    I also checked some shipping sites like borderlinx. But the price of shipping and tax and duty cost more than the Indian price.

    The difference in the power supply and Warranty are my other concerns too.
    12-06-2017 06:20 AM
  14. sasivarnan's Avatar
    Go for PS4, MS products suck outside US, they'll always be lagging behind or never get full feature set, as others mentioned getting xbox gold is easy with bing rewards but it will be a pretty costly affair for you in India

    Thanks for the suggestion. Will do some more research on PS4.

    Need one more suggestion, between Xbox One S and PS4 slim, which has better graphics performance?
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    12-06-2017 06:25 AM
  15. breaker119's Avatar
    Well since the article post sent me here I'll post about Kinect (even though Kinect has not yet been mentioned).

    I still use my Kinect heavily on my original XBOX One. There are 3 primary reasons:
    1. IR Blaster (I know it's built into newer models). I want everything to turn on when the XBOX turns on
    2. Voice control - I rarely wear a headset and want the voice controls. When I walk into the house I want to be able to turn on the system. When my family is at the dinner table I want to be able to turn down the volume without having to find the remote. When I have to run to the head I want to be able to tell my show to pause...etc., etc.
    3. User recognition - the Kinect recognizes each person in my family and I have tons of parental controls set up. It helps keep my kids from doing things I don't want them to do (at least it gives me the sense that it does)
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    12-06-2017 09:47 AM
  16. Drewidian's Avatar
    We had two Xbox Ones in our home using the cable HDMI pass through both with Kinects and use the voice commands all of the time. I got an Xbox One Scorpio Edition a few weeks ago, I swapped the One and didn't have an adapter. After 2 days without it, my wife and kids sat me down and informed me that as the purchaser of technology for the household, it was my responsibility "to make it work", and that there would be consequences if I didn't. Needless to say, I got the adapter that day.
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    12-06-2017 09:53 AM
  17. jayruguitar's Avatar
    The Kinect is still a valuable and viable accessory in my setup. Just last week, I was in Florida on business. Used the Kinect to Skype w/ the whole family. This feature alone makes it worth the trouble of securing the needed adapter. I use it daily for the extra IR blaster range and voice controls. Currently, I have Cortana disabled on the One X as I do not want it to engage while I'm conferring w/ Cortana on the Invoke. Having the original Xbox voice commands back in use are a pleasure on the Xbox. Using the Kinect and Skype on Christmas morning lets my entire family from across the country be a part of my little ones morning of joy as well.
    12-06-2017 10:07 AM
  18. breaker119's Avatar
    Right - I forgot Skype! With the forthcoming ability to add a standard webcam to the XBOX ONE hopefully this will be covered...
    12-06-2017 11:00 AM
  19. Timothy Collins1's Avatar
    I would but the thing is... I originally bought a (Day One edition) Xbox One because of Xbox Fitness. It was great. There were other games I was interested in but that was the final nail in the "System Seller" question for me. With Xbox Fitness shuttered and the Kinect scrapped, there is no reason for me to bother with the Xbox now... It's just a TV adapter for Overwatch now and I am happy with the current version I have - I don't need it to look better. So I am voting against the Xbox One S or X.
    12-06-2017 11:35 AM
  20. Immortal Lobster's Avatar
    Yes, love my kinect, using an adapter for both my one s and one x.

    I can't fathom why they killed it. It's great for voice control, and love the auto log in.
    12-06-2017 12:21 PM
  21. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    I actually own a 6-year-old laptop Lenovo Z570 which has Nvidia GeForce GT 540M graphics card.

    The machine is working fine but it is not performing well to a lot of new games and the machine is not compatible with Windows 10. I am stuck with Windows 7.

    Hence I was looking for a console for playing recent games with decent graphics as a dedicated Gaming Machine. So getting an Xbox and EA Access subscription will be a better choice for me.

    I tried to buy a console during the Black Friday sales. None of the sellers on Amazon are shipping to India.

    I also checked some shipping sites like borderlinx. But the price of shipping and tax and duty cost more than the Indian price.

    The difference in the power supply and Warranty are my other concerns too.
    Seeing the crazy price of consoles in India I would say it would probably be cheaper to build a PC. It'll be probably be cheaper/more powerful, the games are cheaper, you don't need to play online, you have far more options, mods and many other things to do on a PC. Plus there are so many more games on PC...

    Did you try ebay? I totally understand the warranty. That's why I hardly buy expensive hardware from another country.
    12-06-2017 12:55 PM
  22. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    Thanks for the suggestion. Will do some more research on PS4.

    Need one more suggestion, between Xbox One S and PS4 slim, which has better graphics performance?
    The PS4 slim is smaller and is more powerful than the XB1s. It offers better resolution/frame rate on many games... It also has way more games current gen games, exclusives, console exclusives...
    It's also cheaper on amazon India if you consider that the cheapest bundle comes with 3 games.
    You can also have VR on it if you want to try that. The XB1s has a 4K blu ray drive if that is a thing for you.

    Oh and about all the kinect talk. Personally I think it's just an gimmick. MS stopped supporting it and literally killed it. They hardly believed in it by forcing it to their fan base early on and hardly made any games for it...
    12-06-2017 01:08 PM
  23. lunaclown's Avatar
    I still use the Kinect after upgrading to the Xbox one x. I’ve always lived the voice commands and have a few fun Kinect games that get played from time to time (fruit ninja, Fantasia , Kinect sports etc)

    I don’t think they should have killed it off.
    12-06-2017 09:54 PM
  24. IRBarney's Avatar
    Regularly use Kinect voice control for turning systems on / off, pausing live TV / Netflix etc, and adjusting volume. Love how easy it makes everything.

    MAJOR downside for me (and probably a small set of users)...Xbox One S uses the IR blaster on the console, and not through Kinect. My console is hidden from view and I had to purchase IR receivers to go on all my devices. An inelegant solution...especially when Microsoft said Kinect would be fully functioning on the S as it was on the original.
    12-06-2017 10:31 PM
  25. sasivarnan's Avatar
    Seeing the crazy price of consoles in India I would say it would probably be cheaper to build a PC. It'll be probably be cheaper/more powerful, the games are cheaper, you don't need to play online, you have far more options, mods and many other things to do on a PC. Plus there are so many more games on PC...
    I checked that option also. Even the price of building a decent gaming PC costs more than buying a console.

    The PS4 slim is smaller and is more powerful than the XB1s. It offers better resolution/frame rate on many games... It also has way more games current gen games, exclusives, console exclusives...
    Oh!!! Is it.
    I read somewhere that PS4 slim can produce only 1080 output with 30 FPS whereas Xbox One S can upscale games to 4k @ 30 FPS.
    I thought that Xbox One S offers better performance than PS4.

    It's also cheaper on amazon India if you consider that the cheapest bundle comes with 3 games.
    There is a current sale going on Indian e-commerce site Flipkart.
    There Xbox One S 1 TB GB AC: Origins & Rainbow siege Bundle costs around 26,990 (418 USD).
    PS4 slim 1 TB with Uncharted Collection & Uncharted 4 costs around 30,990 (480 USD)

    You can also have VR on it if you want to try that. The XB1s has a 4K blu ray drive if that is a thing for you.
    I think I am not gonna enter into both of the things. I am just looking for some casual entertainment experience.

    Oh and about all the Kinect talk. Personally I think it's just an gimmick. MS stopped supporting it and literally killed it. They hardly believed in it by forcing it to their fan base early on and hardly made any games for it...
    I am taking the console only for playing games, Amazon Prime Video and YouTube. So I am not bothered about it.

    Did you try ebay?
    eBay is not trustworthy in India I guess.
    12-07-2017 10:45 AM
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