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  1. defgufman's Avatar
    At least you'll admit that MS have faults here. They hyped the product like crazy, they forced it on their fanbase early on and hardly supported it with games.
    To make things worse they just kept saying Kinect is important and is not going anywhere. They just kept misleading people to buy it even though they knew it was dying and they weren't really supporting it.

    Say what you want about PSVR but at least Sony is supporting it with games.
    Here I think people are upset about 1) false hype and misleading presentations with fake capabilites that sold false dreams, 2) lack of support by MS themselves to their own product pthat they previously hyped and forced on their fanbase, 3) misleading consumers by keep saying "Kinect is vital for XB" and that all devices will be supported on scorpio...

    I understand that some products and tech dies but for me the way MS handled the entire situation was horrible. It just makes people think twice the next time MS hype up a new product or service...
    Yes they did handle it poorly. I personally like Kinect and wish it did better. I also had many Windows phones and miss them too. I keep jumping into Microsoft products only watch them disappear. Windows RT, Groove, PhotoDraw, Microsoft TV and the devices attached to that service, MSN, FrontPage and the myriad of web tools that followed, Active Desktop, Zune, and so much more. I don't feel all that confident that XBox will continue after the One ceases. Microsoft sadly just can't seem to handle consumer markets like they do enterprise ones.
    01-07-2018 09:48 AM
  2. TyStycc003's Avatar
    It is disappointing to know they discontinuing both Kinect and Groove Music. They give up too easy. Stand your ground.
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    01-07-2018 10:18 AM
  3. DCTonkaTruck's Avatar
    I try to read the stuff about how Microsoft's pivot from technology to technology is a good thing... It gels with a lot of stuff you read about these days about "failing fast".

    Here is my issue, Kinect for Xbox and Kinect for Windows were devices that were marquee initiatives. They were supposed to be fundamental components of the next generation of interfaces. When Microsoft walked away from them as a product, there was no discussion of what lessons they've learned or how they are adapting their vision to market pressure.

    Band, Zune, Xbox as an Entertainment hub, Groove, Windows Phone... Technology works best when it is part of a broad ecosystem. It's hard to look at their track record and not see Cortana, Microsoft Movies and TV, and others as under threat.

    I hope the WINDOWSCENTRAL guys dig deep out at CES and give us a summary of devices and services that use Cortana... Microsoft needs to do a better job of competing with Alexa and Google... Siri, in my mind, is an also-ran.

    Sorry, that was a side rant. I guess my point is that their strategy of going in a direction in a big way and then pivoting quickly with limited executive perspective throws people off and makes them suspicious... And not just developers. Consumers see these devices adopted by their friends... They barely work as promised because the ecosystem is nascent and then they're abandoned. It makes the people who wanted to wait think twice about whether something will improve their lives or whether it will be a frustrating mess.
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    01-07-2018 10:32 AM
  4. Revvin's Avatar
    Its ridiculous that they stopped production so soon after launching the XBOX One X when so many users like me would be upgrading from the original XBOX One which came bundled with the Kinect. Its still a viable device for gaming and control of devices with Cortana and I use the Kinect on the XBOX 360 to do video calls with the grandkids who lived a few hundred miles away and it really helped us stay in contact between visits. Once I got my XBOX One X my original XBOX wen to my grandson with a new Kinect and I looked for an adaptor for mine but they were never in stock. Luckily I got a second hand one through Amazon the day the news boke about discontinuing manufacturing of the adaptor.
    Jaroslav Houdek likes this.
    01-07-2018 10:43 AM
  5. Enlil242's Avatar
    Agreed... This was a **** poor decision. Actually, ever since Cortana the Kinect has been unusable in my opinion. I wish I could get my $100 back. I think I will be bringing my PS4 down to my TV room and put the Xbox up in the kids room as I find it no longer serves as a media hub.
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    01-07-2018 11:31 AM
  6. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    The focus now is "Games as a service", microtransactions + lootboxes, Power of "true 4K"/"6>4", depending on 3rd party studios, ways of playing old games or that $75 controller with new "fancy design" for games that don't have local multiplayer...

    Closing studios, cancelling games, killing products...

    All those who believe the kinect hype, who believed the project Milo, believed this was the future of gaming and of the living room.
    All those who danced in the streets singing and shouting "I am the controller", all those who bought the kinect because that was the only way to get a XB1 console, all those who waited desperately for the next kinect game that MS invested in after sports rivals in 2014...

    To all those people. You have been misled. Sorry but MS is telling you that it's time to move on.
    Go buy a scorpio, go rent old games, or wait for 3rd party games and spend money on new controllers even if you can moslty play only with one controller at a time. And oh. Don't forget to gamble away your money in order to win multiplayer games...

    These are MS priorities now...
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    01-07-2018 11:37 AM
  7. Ejay Lozano's Avatar
    I missed the hand gestures that it used to have when i first came out. Now that it is being killed off, it just made the system less capable now. With sony and Nintendo not killing off one other their features like this, it just shows they didn't put much effort into the feature to keep it going.
    01-07-2018 11:57 AM
  8. DanThrax69's Avatar
    I really enjoy the Kinect on both 360 and One , I had no idea I would not be able to use my Kinect when I bought my new XB1X. MS should at least build enough units to supply us life long XB gamers . I have a massive collection all in working condition since the original XB that I bought in 1992. Very disappointed to say the least. These guys selling adapters on eBay for $300+ is ridiculous, come on guys , take pre-orders and make another batch . Advertised as a unit that all equipment would was very misleading when pumping up the new XB1X . Sony is about to get a bunch of power gamers joining their ranks if MS doesn’t make this right. Lets not let this die people , use every available means of contact to get this issue resolved, write MS , use tech support, call XB live , many ways to get heard , keep it going
    01-07-2018 12:02 PM
  9. Mihai Florin Pop's Avatar
    Microsoft kills windows phones, kills Kinect … is killing everything that they are making different from the others. If they are going on this direction maybe they will stop making windows OS and we will be more happy using Google's product.
    01-07-2018 12:14 PM
  10. EspHack's Avatar
    I do not understand Microsoft's reasoning for this, really how much could it actually cost them to build the adapter. I looked at one and really it isn't rocket science, I'm sure it won't be long before a third party company starts making one. If you look at what the adapter really is you could build your own.
    to add insult to injury, consider the price, 40$ for what is essentially a 12v usb power injector, you could get that and a usb type b for around 20$ or less and do it yourself

    now the worst part, its aimed at gaming users, which apparently are fine getting ripped off for every piece of plastic with an X on it, it makes sense, incredibly evil sense: "its for kids, they will coerce their parents into buying, so lets make the most profit" I see people buying used adapters for over 200-300$ on ebay, probably desperate xbox X buyers, the brand damage should outweigh whatever economic sense this move made back then
    Jaroslav Houdek likes this.
    01-07-2018 12:21 PM
  11. Stan77's Avatar
    Micro$oft must hate their own products. Except for Azure and Office 365, of course.
    01-07-2018 01:12 PM
  12. Roman DeSilva's Avatar
    Say what you want about Ballmer, he may not have always known what a winning combo looked like. But the man at least knew to step in the ring and put your fists up. How hard could it have been to simply say to the hardware department. Make a cheaper Kinect. Take the high-end Microsoft Lifecam, put a IR blaster in it, make it so it has a USB pass-through so it keeps the USB port on the Xbox One S and X available. and sell it along with the xbox one at a small loss. That way, the work being put into adding Cortana to the Xbox One isn't moot. It could've been pitched as a Alexa competitor. Sold as a PC accessory for systems without windows hello. But this is Satya Nadella. He retreats to where he thinks Microsoft does best: CORPORATE. But then again, this is a man that said in his 1'st keynote for windows, "Windows phones are for fans and enthusiast". That he wants us to "LOVE Microsoft". So kicking fans in the teeth is apparently his forte'.
    01-07-2018 01:36 PM
  13. Spinus80's Avatar
    its very disappointing! even without games there was easy Cortana and Skype!!
    01-07-2018 05:55 PM
  14. Chuckwalsh's Avatar
    I'm ok with them getting rid of kinect. It always seemed like a gimmick to me.
    01-07-2018 07:49 PM
  15. Smokiechick's Avatar
    I use my Kinect every day. It's how my kids sign in: they sit down, the Xbox says Hi to them, and they can't buy anything!
    Glad we didn't upgrade.
    01-07-2018 10:20 PM
  16. ken baggs's Avatar
    Just read a story in MSN News that Microsoft have discontinued making the Kinect adapter.

    I have just bought an Xbox One X and was lucky as I had an adapter from when I used a Kinect as a web cam.

    I would NOT have bought the X if I couldn't have used the Kinect on it.

    I am saddened by this decision as it again shows Microsoft's ability to kick loyal customers in the teeth, why not let someone else build them and announce that at the same time, rather than just exit the market and be accused of being a callous uncaring company.

    I am still all in with MS products, 950XL, SP4 Xbox One X, but I can see how so many people have been encouraged to move on from MS products and services.
    Your lucky I unpackaged and setup last night to find there statement of its compatible with all Xbox one accessories is rubbish and only way I can use my voice commands like I did on Xbox one is to either buy an adapter which is over £150+ as no obsolete or use a headset and controller! So that with alot of things not working on new Xbox one leaves me feeling pretty miffed to say the least!
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    01-08-2018 04:30 AM
  17. Jaroslav Houdek's Avatar
    It is still possible to use Kinect with DIY adapter:

    (turn on english subtitles in the video)

    Overall, the MSFT under Nadella is just about throwing towls to the ring. Just look at Google, even though the ChromeOS is a failure, they continue pushing it. Also Apple still tries to push AppleTV even though no one really wants it.
    Four years ago this site (windowscentral) published an article about Windows Phone outselling iPhones in 25 markets. Then came Nadella and pi55ed all over it.
    01-08-2018 04:39 AM
  18. NevilleWP's Avatar
    Not good. Sad actually. I just bought the an Xbox One S despite knowing that it isn't a real console and just a wrapped PC. One big reason for this is because I had a PlayStation console already and their motion detection hardware relies on handheld devices. Kinect was a hands down winner... until I read this and already spent the money! The idea was to use the Xbox as my entertainment system with voice controls via Cortana... well, so far it can't even give me the weather. Maybe a sign that even MS developers are not developing for Kinect anymore... so sad... dare I say deja vu a la Microsoft Phone... sigh!
    01-08-2018 09:42 AM
  19. Skier7667's Avatar
    Just read a story in MSN News that Microsoft have discontinued making the Kinect adapter.

    I have just bought an Xbox One X and was lucky as I had an adapter from when I used a Kinect as a web cam.

    I would NOT have bought the X if I couldn't have used the Kinect on it.

    I am saddened by this decision as it again shows Microsoft's ability to kick loyal customers in the teeth, why not let someone else build them and announce that at the same time, rather than just exit the market and be accused of being a callous uncaring company.

    I am still all in with MS products, 950XL, SP4 Xbox One X, but I can see how so many people have been encouraged to move on from MS products and services.
    I too am very saddened by the decision, but I would imagine it is based on business needs, not just keeping the users happy.

    I love my Kinect on my Xbox One. Bob, you indicated that had the Kinect adaptor when you used it as a web cam. Does that adaptor work on the Xbox One-X. I too have the Xbox One-X.

    I found at least for voice recognition, it worked perfect with Cortana for me. It would be nice if they can somehow connect the Harmon Kardon Invoke to work with the Xbox One or Xbox One X.

    For me since it came priced on day one with the Xbox One, I didn't think about the pricing as others did later. I also used the original Kinect with the Xbox 360 and it worked fine.

    So Yes, I miss it and would love to find options to connect it to my Xbox One X.
    01-08-2018 12:43 PM
  20. VEGEmiteCOMEtoo's Avatar
    I think that the Kinect needs to remain being used. There are a lot of Xbox games -& Apps that use the kinect & there is also Cortana. What was the point of Cortana being developed in the first place if the only time or way that she will be used is on a Desktop or Laptop PC. If the kinect is going to go then in my opinion Microsoft Xbox will go downhill. My recommendation is to keep the kinect & the Adapter.
    01-08-2018 12:50 PM
  21. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    There are a lot of Xbox games [...] that use the kinect[...]
    I hope you're talking of XB360 games because I would hardly consider around 20 (6 of those Just dance games) "lot of games".
    01-08-2018 01:53 PM
  22. sealancer's Avatar
    Just read a story in MSN News that Microsoft have discontinued making the Kinect adapter.

    I have just bought an Xbox One X and was lucky as I had an adapter from when I used a Kinect as a web cam.

    I would NOT have bought the X if I couldn't have used the Kinect on it.

    I am saddened by this decision as it again shows Microsoft's ability to kick loyal customers in the teeth, why not let someone else build them and announce that at the same time, rather than just exit the market and be accused of being a callous uncaring company.

    I am still all in with MS products, 950XL, SP4 Xbox One X, but I can see how so many people have been encouraged to move on from MS products and services.
    It was the same case with Windows Phone. People who bought earlier version of could not update to next version.

    Now I am left with a hot potato called xbox which needs to be offloaded. Its ridiculous no further development ends up becoming not available any where. What will the existing kinect owners do if adapter goes kaput? buy it at a exorbitant price or throw away the xbox. Latter would be the best option. My next console will be PS4 , had enough of this MS crap. Was pretty stupid that I did not learn from windows phone fiasco.
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    01-08-2018 07:19 PM
  23. Gabriel Ortiz1's Avatar
    Just read a story in MSN News that Microsoft have discontinued making the Kinect adapter.

    I have just bought an Xbox One X and was lucky as I had an adapter from when I used a Kinect as a web cam.

    I would NOT have bought the X if I couldn't have used the Kinect on it.

    I am saddened by this decision as it again shows Microsoft's ability to kick loyal customers in the teeth, why not let someone else build them and announce that at the same time, rather than just exit the market and be accused of being a callous uncaring company.

    I am still all in with MS products, 950XL, SP4 Xbox One X, but I can see how so many people have been encouraged to move on from MS products and services.
    It really sucks that LAZY content creators were directly responsible for the demise of this device which had so much potential.

    What sucks even more is that MSFT decided to not include a Kinect port on the Xbox One S and Xbox One X - essentially screwing over anyone who loyally purchased an OG Xbox One or who purchased one soon after.

    Another slap in the face was MSFT's decision to discontinue making and selling the Kinect adapter, and at a time when many gamers were looking to upgrade to the Xbox One X but who didn't want to have had spent money for a device they can no longer use if they upgrade. Now, you cant find an adapter anywhere, despite refurbished Kinects still being sold on the MSFT site. What's the point of buying a refurb Kinect now that their is no adapter to use it on the S or X? So my Kinect is now collecting dust. Thanks for continuing to screwing over your loyal customers.

    MSFT is full of bad ideas and is only further turning their back on loyal paying consumers.
    01-09-2018 08:03 AM
  24. Guest_aotf's Avatar
    It really sucks that LAZY content creators were directly responsible for the demise of this device which had so much potential.
    "It really sucks that LAZY content creators were directly responsible for the demise of this device which had so much potential."
    I hope you're only talking of MS because it's not up to 3rd party studios to "support" this product. It's MS's responsibility to provide content for their device and their customers.
    Look at what MS provided. And I wouldn't even blame content creators or devs for this. It's higher ups at MS who probably didn't want to invest in making games for kinect.
    01-10-2018 01:47 PM
  25. EspHack's Avatar
    "It really sucks that LAZY content creators were directly responsible for the demise of this device which had so much potential."
    I hope you're only talking of MS because it's not up to 3rd party studios to "support" this product. It's MS's responsibility to provide content for their device and their customers.
    Look at what MS provided. And I wouldn't even blame content creators or devs for this. It's higher ups at MS who probably didn't want to invest in making games for kinect.
    this^

    +920
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    01-10-2018 05:10 PM
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