05-02-2013 06:03 PM
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  1. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    hey .i have following wpc since a long time almost a year now i guess..and i use the l920 as my main phone

    i study in school (16yrs old) and here is the deal i want to develop some apps/programs for wp8 or maybe even w8 later
    right now i know nothing but i am ready to learn..

    we were initially go to do C++ in school but they changed it to python which they will start teaching from july....they have removed c++ completely...

    so can someone help out ..first of all do i still learn c++ on my own or will python do the trick too...also ..once i learn the lang what next....how to do stuff...ofc i dont want anyone to type long replies so links to sites will work too?

    hopefully i can contribute to out wp8 society as well

    UPDATE-

    Sorry was i am still learning c# at a very slow speed since ..i am also learning python(because of my school)

    BUT I AM DONE WITH THE BASICS OF c
    Last edited by Me gusta l920; 05-16-2013 at 02:23 AM.
    04-16-2013 11:48 AM
  2. Vaibhav Chauhan's Avatar
    Nice to see you starting with WP8/W8 app development. I dont know python but know core java, c/c++, some javascript.
    But none of these is used for app development, by beginners. I use C# for WP8, some of my freinds use HTML5 too.
    Since i know core java, C# is right for me, bith have almost similar syntax.

    since you are a student, register yourself on dreamspark.com, verify your account and then you can get a free developer account too.
    Even if you dont register right now, you can download Visual Studio Express for WP from dreamspark site & start developing right away, also you can begin watching these videos, really helpful:
    C# Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9
    HTML5 & CSS3 Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9
    Javascript Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9

    Select one method and stick to it, i would recommend C#, easy to learn while making apps themselves.
    & Watch this, really good.
    Building Apps for Windows Phone 8 Jump Start: (01a) Introducing Windows Phone 8 Development Part 1 | Building Apps for Windows Phone 8 Jump Start | Channel 9
    04-16-2013 12:21 PM
  3. berty6294's Avatar
    Nice to see you starting with WP8/W8 app development. I dont know python but know core java, c/c++, some javascript.
    But none of these is used for app development, by beginners. I use C# for WP8, some of my freinds use HTML5 too.
    Since i know core java, C# is right for me, bith have almost similar syntax.

    since you are a student, register yourself on dreamspark.com, verify your account and then you can get a free developer account too.
    Even if you dont register right now, you can download Visual Studio Express for WP from dreamspark site & start developing right away, also you can begin watching these videos, really helpful:
    C# Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9
    HTML5 & CSS3 Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9
    Javascript Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9

    Select one method and stick to it, i would recommend C#, easy to learn while making apps themselves.
    & Watch this, really good.
    Building Apps for Windows Phone 8 Jump Start: (01a) Introducing Windows Phone 8 Development Part 1 | Building Apps for Windows Phone 8 Jump Start | Channel 9
    Id definitely suggest C# as well. Python is much like C# and Java. Definitely sign up for Dreamspark too, they give you everything for free! I didn't know this and bought a dev license full price.
    04-16-2013 12:24 PM
  4. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    So you are saying I should learn C ...i have visual studio 2012 desktop version ..i run w7 on my laptop..i have the full version not the trial

    no offence but I Wont register right now...i want to first finish the basics ..but I will bookmark the site and remember to do it later on
    04-16-2013 12:27 PM
  5. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    Id u definitely suggest C# as well. Python is much like C# and Java. Definitely sign up for Dreamspark too, they give you everything for free! I didn't know this and bought a dev license full price.
    . U also suugest C ..ok ..i have visual studio full version already ..but I would def sign up there ..once I learn some basic C#
    04-16-2013 12:30 PM
  6. Vaibhav Chauhan's Avatar
    I think you will need W8 and VS Express for WP and Windows8 pro(pro for running emulator) if you want to work for WP8.
    04-16-2013 12:36 PM
  7. berty6294's Avatar
    I think you will need W8 and VS Express for WP and Windows8 pro(pro for running emulator) if you want to work for WP8.
    I don't believe you need 8 at all for WP8 dev, I remember working on WP8 from Win7. And if the emulator doesn't work, the dev license is free for students so you can unlock your phone and debug on that.
    04-16-2013 12:40 PM
  8. bjd223's Avatar
    hey .i have following wpc since a long time almost a year now i guess..and i use the l920 as my main phone

    i study in school (16yrs old) and here is the deal i want to develop some apps/programs for wp8 or maybe even w8 later
    right now i know nothing but i am ready to learn..

    we were initially go to do C++ in school but they changed it to python which they will start teaching from july....they have removed c++ completely...

    so can someone help out ..first of all do i still learn c++ on my own or will python do the trick too...also ..once i learn the lang what next....how to do stuff...ofc i dont want anyone to type long replies so links to sites will work too?

    hopefully i can contribute to out wp8 society as well

    PS sorry if this posted in the wrong forum...i thought this place seemed the right
    I would suggest learning C++ first as this is a great unmanaged language. However, once you get proficient enough to want to move past console applications you should switch to something like C# which is a great managed language. If you can get into DreamSpark, or a copy of Visual Studio from your school I would use that for C#.

    For C++ you can use any number of IDEs including Visual C++ in Visual Studio or even free compilers like Bloodshed, or if you run Linux anywhere there are native tools in Linux for compiling C/C++.

    You can also look into JavaScript/HTML5 as Windows 8 Modern Apps can be written in this also if you have an interest in Web Development. If you want to create games you should look at Unity, which can publish to iOS, Android, and Windows Phone.
    04-16-2013 12:42 PM
  9. Vaibhav Chauhan's Avatar
    Yes it is, maybe its only for the emulator, emulator works only in W8 Pro(& gives a loot of trouble to non geeky kind first time when they start it).(i'm also a noob btw)
    04-16-2013 12:49 PM
  10. berty6294's Avatar
    Yes it is, maybe its only for the emulator, emulator works only in W8 Pro(& gives a loot of trouble to non geeky kind first time when they start it).(i'm also a noob btw)
    Ha ha I might be thinking of WP7 on Win7, but yeh I couldn't get the WP8 emulator to work on my homemade Win8 Pro computer so I just deploy to my device. And I'm as noob as it gets lol
    04-16-2013 12:52 PM
  11. DBDev's Avatar
    Hi!

    You can get a dreamspark account but unfortunately you cant sign up for a dev account because you have to bee 18 years, I have that problem because Im 16 too. So, you will unfortunately have to have win8 because you cant test your apps on the phone so you need the emulator :(
    04-17-2013 01:58 AM
  12. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    I would suggest learning C++ first as this is a great unmanaged language. However, once you get proficient enough to want to move past console applications you should switch to something like C# which is a great managed language. If you can get into DreamSpark, or a copy of Visual Studio from your school I would use that for C#.

    For C++ you can use any number of IDEs including Visual C++ in Visual Studio or even free compilers like Bloodshed, or if you run Linux anywhere there are native tools in Linux for compiling C/C++.

    You can also look into JavaScript/HTML5 as Windows 8 Modern Apps can be written in this also if you have an interest in Web Development. If you want to create games you should look at Unity, which can publish to iOS, Android, and Windows Phone.
    i already have visual studio ..and most of the people suggest c# over c++ so i am going with c
    04-17-2013 04:56 AM
  13. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    Hi!

    You can get a dreamspark account but unfortunately you cant sign up for a dev account because you have to bee 18 years, I have that problem because Im 16 too. So, you will unfortunately have to have win8 because you cant test your apps on the phone so you need the emulator :(
    i can lie to them and tell them i am 18
    04-17-2013 04:57 AM
  14. Jnbs's Avatar
    Hi!

    You can get a dreamspark account but unfortunately you cant sign up for a dev account because you have to bee 18 years, I have that problem because Im 16 too. So, you will unfortunately have to have win8 because you cant test your apps on the phone so you need the emulator :(
    Me too :( I am in college already (17) and can't get my dev account.. Anyways I am on C++ right now.. Hope to learn well then I will move to C#
    04-17-2013 06:02 AM
  15. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    I don't believe you need 8 at all for WP8 dev, I remember working on WP8 from Win7. And if the emulator doesn't work, the dev license is free for students so you can unlock your phone and debug on that.
    in india we dont get locked phones..all are unlocked by default and we pay a huge amount for them
    04-17-2013 06:18 AM
  16. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    Me too :( I am in college already (17) and can't get my dev account.. Anyways I am on C++ right now.. Hope to learn well then I will move to C#
    how did u get into collage if ur 17yrs old...u must be atleast 18
    04-17-2013 06:19 AM
  17. Jnbs's Avatar
    in india we dont get locked phones..all are unlocked by default and we pay a huge amount for them
    I think we are talking about developer unlock like to side load apps or make tweaks, not the carrier lock..
    04-17-2013 06:20 AM
  18. Jnbs's Avatar
    how did u get into collage if ur 17yrs old...u must be atleast 18
    Not true... I finished very early and then got into college a year ago.. You might say that "I graduated as a junior"..
    04-17-2013 06:21 AM
  19. rocketboy's Avatar
    C# vote too. Most importantly because examples are generally more plentiful in C# to get you started. Unless you're writing a game or some other performance dependent code it's generally easier to get it done in C#.
    04-17-2013 06:24 AM
  20. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    C# vote too. Most importantly because examples are generally more plentiful in C# to get you started. Unless you're writing a game or some other performance dependent code it's generally easier to get it done in C#.
    yup i have decided to do c only
    04-17-2013 06:47 AM
  21. a5cent's Avatar
    yup i have decided to do c only
    You mean C#. C and C# are two different languages.
    04-17-2013 07:02 AM
  22. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    You mean C#. C and C# are two different languages.
    wow they are ...i didnt know that ..then yes c# ..if this teaches me c# C# Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9
    04-17-2013 07:06 AM
  23. a5cent's Avatar
    C# Fundamentals: Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9
    If you are serious, then what you need are a few well written and hefty (preferably English) books. Not web videos. Check amazon for reviews of what people currently recommend.
    04-17-2013 07:18 AM
  24. DBDev's Avatar
    You can also check this tutorial: Windows Phone 7 Development for Absolute Beginners | Channel 9

    I know that it is old and for wp7 and not 8 but I think its a really good tutorial.
    04-17-2013 07:56 AM
  25. Me gusta l920's Avatar
    If you are serious, then what you need are a few well written and hefty (preferably English) books. Not web videos. Check amazon for reviews of what people currently recommend.
    i will check some books in my nearest book store but for now i prefer the sites..lol
    04-17-2013 07:59 AM
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